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CantonLegend 03-22-2010 04:55 PM

new NFL rules?
 
i just caught a bit of jeff fisher talkin on NFL Network about some of the new rule proposals

lots of rules being thought about because of us

for instance, there was a play earlier in the season when we had a play overturned due to replay inside of a minute....it gave us good field position but didnt grant us a TD

with a stopped clock we were able to get up to the line and score a TD on the next play before half time

they are proposing a rule that if you need a replay to overturn a play inside the last minute of a half, there will be a 10 second runoff on the clock unless you call a timeout to nullify that runoff

also some dummy called out from the peanut gallery about our 2 pt conversion in the super bowl where lance moore crossed the plain but dropped the ball after it was kicked from his possession

fisher said something along the lines of a new rule being proposed about continuing a catch thru the play and that possession must be controlled throughout the play.

not exactly sure what that means but sounds like a lot of people are unhappy about the way we kicked other teams' asses

Srgt. Hulka 03-22-2010 05:04 PM

Re: new NFL rules?
 
Is that all they talked about, all the different ways the Saints kicked everybody's @$$, and how to keep it from happening again?

21Hilliard 03-22-2010 05:20 PM

Re: new NFL rules?
 
Here's a new rule for the other 31 teams. You don't want the lowly WORLD CHAMPION NEW ORLEANS SAINTS to kick your @$$? Play better DEFENSE.

skymike 03-22-2010 05:32 PM

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That Lance Moore catch was payback 26 years later for a replay that robbed Eric Martin against the Giants back in the 80s.

We were rolling along, I think just clobbered Denver the week before, and Hebert chunks this perfect bullet to Martin into the Girod St. endzone---Score! And we're starting to look real good vs. the Giants.

Nope! wait... we have to crank up this damn replay, and sure enough, ran in super-duper stop in time slow motion cam--- the replay reveals that the outer electrons in the amoebic walls on the edge of the pigskin shifted positions .0000000001 microbits within Martin's hand 1/2 a flie's scrotum after the last proton of his right shoe crossed the edge of the white line.
He burned his guy. Hebert nailed it. He caught it. Ran thru the endzone. In anybody's backyard, thats a touchdown, now go catch the kickoff. Shut up and walk the field. But nooooo. We had to have all this crybaby replay crap.

When I was a kid, there was no replay. The ref threw his hands up one way or the other, and that was it. Move on to the next play. We did just fine without it. Before replay, when Eric Martin crossed the line with the ball in his hand you can now cheer. No waiting for anybody's verdict. See thats my thing with replay. CAn I cheer now? Oh no, wait, now we have to contest it. We have to scrutinize every electron, and hope the peep-show guys sees it our way. Nevermind its so close that he has to look at 26 times--- which directly violates the spirit of what replay was supposed to do.

I could live without replay. Replay is just a second chance for the officials to botch the call--- and it holds up the game and bores the crap out of my kids--- no wonder they watch wrestling. Just play ball. Backyard rules-- if you have the ball, you caught it, if you dont, you didnt. If you're past the goal line, you scored. If you dont want the other team to score, dont let em catch the ball past the goal line. Stop whining and play ball.

Some of my best friends disagree with me. Feel free to join them.

skymike 03-22-2010 05:37 PM

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oh yeah... and dont bring any new rules. Just play football the same way we always have. In fact, lets eliminate all rules created after 1976.

Football is fine like it is. Dont **** with it.

saintfan 03-22-2010 05:58 PM

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Lance had possession and the ball crossed the goal line. That's a TD.

How about a rule that says it's illegal to kick the ball out of a players hands? Hmmmm?

SmashMouth 03-22-2010 06:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by skymike (Post 214338)
That Lance Moore catch was payback 26 years later for a replay that robbed Eric Martin against the Giants back in the 80s.

We were rolling along, I think just clobbered Denver the week before, and Hebert chunks this perfect bullet to Martin into the Girod St. endzone---Score! And we're starting to look real good vs. the Giants.

Nope! wait... we have to crank up this damn replay, and sure enough, ran in super-duper stop in time slow motion cam--- the replay reveals that the outer electrons in the amoebic walls on the edge of the pigskin shifted positions .0000000001 microbits within Martin's hand 1/2 a flie's scrotum after the last proton of his right shoe crossed the edge of the white line.
He burned his guy. Hebert nailed it. He caught it. Ran thru the endzone. In anybody's backyard, thats a touchdown, now go catch the kickoff. Shut up and walk the field. But nooooo. We had to have all this crybaby replay crap.

When I was a kid, there was no replay. The ref threw his hands up one way or the other, and that was it. Move on to the next play. We did just fine without it. Before replay, when Eric Martin crossed the line with the ball in his hand you can now cheer. No waiting for anybody's verdict. See thats my thing with replay. CAn I cheer now? Oh no, wait, now we have to contest it. We have to scrutinize every electron, and hope the peep-show guys sees it our way. Nevermind its so close that he has to look at 26 times--- which directly violates the spirit of what replay was supposed to do.

I could live without replay. Replay is just a second chance for the officials to botch the call--- and it holds up the game and bores the crap out of my kids--- no wonder they watch wrestling. Just play ball. Backyard rules-- if you have the ball, you caught it, if you dont, you didnt. If you're past the goal line, you scored. If you dont want the other team to score, dont let em catch the ball past the goal line. Stop whining and play ball.

Some of my best friends disagree with me. Feel free to join them.

How about that Jerry Rice catch where he fumbled short of crossing the goal line. Yet he was awarded a TD!

I don't see anyone stopping our offense next year either. And if our defense improves as we all think it will, then it won't matter if any of these rule changes actually come through. :bng:

saintfan 03-22-2010 06:20 PM

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You know, I don't watch the NBA because it is SO painfully obvious the stars aren't playing by the same rules. It's blatant, beyond even the refs fixing the games.

I know in baseball you'll always have the strike zone issue, but that varies from player to player and ump to ump, so it is what it is...

But lately (or am I just getting older and seeing things differently) it seems the NFL is going out of its way to 'favor' the likes of Brady, Favre, etc. I hate to see this happening people.

Tobias-Reiper 03-22-2010 06:25 PM

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They have also kicking around the idea of penalizing the defense 15 yards if they intercept Farve or Brady or Manning. If it occurs within the last 2 minutes of the game, it is an automatic safety.

skymike 03-22-2010 06:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 214346)
How about that Jerry Rice catch where he fumbled short of crossing the goal line. Yet he was awarded a TD!

see, you're one of those "friends" Im referring to, whom disagree with me. God, I was mad after that play. We were so robbed! good point!

:bng:

Choupique 03-22-2010 09:02 PM

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If you were to list the times the Saints got robbed over the years you'd fill up hard drives with data.

I don't arbitrarily dislike other teams. There is always a reason.

Well, except the Cowturds. I just don't like them period.

ScottF 03-22-2010 09:05 PM

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I still like replay; I just don't understand two things:

why does it STILL take so long, and how is it they still miss 10-15% of the calls?

the 'ruling on the field' part is stupid. Why have replay if you can't come up with 'conclusive' evidence. The inconclusive-so-the-call-stands part is a cop-out

I guess I have a third question- why does the equipment still malfunction?

I was at the Miami game when their TE 'made' a catch that was challenged. They show the replay. and everyone (Dolph fans) reacts with Oh crap. Then they dick around for 5 minutes and say the that the replay equipment isn't working

ScottF 03-22-2010 09:07 PM

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I like that we have rules changes bc of the high profile games we are in.

Question- if they had already changed the possession rule, would Moore's conversion be incomplete?
I mean it was a catch, period.

skymike 03-23-2010 08:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 214372)
why does it STILL take so long, and how is it they still miss 10-15% of the calls?... Then they (weiner) around for 5 minutes and say the that the replay equipment isn't working

Thats my thing. EVERY replay challenge, they (weiner) around for at least 5 minutes, holding up the game, breaking the rhythmn, and turning it all into a slow motion bigscreening, where everyone starts spouting a million rules and sub-rules.

Replay was not meant to call the whole game. It was only meant to reverse OBVIOUSLY horrible calls, like Mike Renfro in the '79 AFC Championship. If you cant see a mistake in two viewings, then it is not obvious. Therefore "inconclusive" is not a cop-out, its just saying, "There is no apparent mistake, so I'll trust the judgement of the guy who was 6 feet away from the play." So lets move on, line up, and play football.

I think overall the officials do a heckuva job. I've said crazier things before. But seriously, can we see things that fast? If we could, we wouldnt be looking at the slow motion replay.

1. I say you get 2 replays a game. One per team. One per half. If you think one bad call is gonna cost you a game, then choose wisely. Penalties are reviewable; why would the not be?

2. The officials then have 60 seconds to make a reversal or non-reversal. Thumbs up/thumbs down from the booth, I dont need a dissertation. 60 seconds from Flag to ruling.

3. If its not OBVIOUS, then we move on and play ball.

We lived for 60 years without replay, and did just fine.
Yes, I am crazy.
I love you all.

falconhater 03-23-2010 09:05 AM

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Geuss Im in the minority here but i like everything you hate about replay.
I like the analyzation of marginal plays . I like the slowmotion replays and the discussion of the rules and how they apply. I know it slows the game and as you mentioned with kids it bores them My four sons tend to leave the room during replays.

I am a high school football coach and have played the game at multiple levels in my life for years. I do not agree with the argument of breaking rythm or momentum. The better team or team that executes will win period. as a fan i enjoy the element that replay brings to viewing a game on tv. I delight in every second of a football game and if i get a couple replays to extend my sunday afternoon bliss GREAT!!!

FLAME ME IF YOU MUST!!!

foreverfan 03-23-2010 09:26 AM

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The college replay is much better than the pros. Penaties should be reviewable too. Any questionable calls should be reviewable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by falconhater (Post 214437)

FLAME ME IF YOU MUST!!!

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skymike 03-24-2010 04:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by falconhater (Post 214437)
Geuss Im in the minority here but i like everything you hate about replay. FLAME ME IF YOU MUST!!!

I dont think so... I think most people here disagree with my leatherhelmet mentality about replay. I know all my good friends whom I watch the (road) games with on Sundays, think I'm full O' Sh**. This is the Happy Board. There's no Flaming. :peace:

SmashMouth 03-24-2010 06:00 PM

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More rules in consideration fellahs....

NFL owners ponder new-look OT for regular season, approve safety rules - ESPN

Even one for hitting the JerryCurl Dome scoreboard. NICE!


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