I HATE REGGIE BUSH

Danno · 04-10-2010, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by poydras

My sentiments exactly. Since we signed Reggie, we've been to the NFC Championship twice and won a Super Bowl. No, you can't give all the credit to Reggie or any other single player for that matter, but he has been an important player who has made some game changing plays (re: Arizona game). He's also a team leader and is the face of the Saints. I'm thrilled that absence of a salary cap has enabled him to be a Saint one more year.

Why do you say that?

Because he's OVER-PAID, that's why.

He's the highest paid RB in the NFL, and he isn't even the best RB on his own team.

Saint_LB · 04-11-2010, 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

and he isn't even the best RB on his own team.

Hogwash.

Danno · 04-11-2010, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Hogwash.

IF I was forced to chose between Bush and PT, I'm taking Pierre Thomas.

subguy · 04-11-2010, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

IF I was forced to chose between Bush and PT, I'm taking Pierre Thomas.

If forced to choose one I totally agree with PT...

saintsfan1976 · 04-11-2010, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

IF I was forced to chose between Bush and PT, I'm taking Pierre Thomas.

Two totally different type of players.

They are however a perfect PAIR for the same team.

I'll bet there are 25 teams who would take Reggie AND pay him just as much if not more for his services.

Danno · 04-11-2010, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Two totally different type of players.

They are however a perfect PAIR for the same team.

I'll bet there are 25 teams who would take Reggie AND pay him just as much if not more for his services.

I'd bet there are no more than 3 or 4 that would even consider him at 8 million in 2010, 12 million in 2010 and 13 million in 2012.

I don't think anyone pays that much for a scat back and an over-rated punt returner. Well, Oakland maybe, and Washington perhaps.

saintsfan1976 · 04-11-2010, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'd bet there are no more than 3 or 4 that would even consider him at 8 million in 2010, 12 million in 2010 and 13 million in 2012.

I don't think anyone pays that much for a scat back and an over-rated punt returner. Well, Oakland maybe, and Washington perhaps.

Call him what you like, but he's an important part of the success of this offense.

Sign for and collect are two different numbers.

Depending on the details of each incentive there's no way he would've collected 8 and 12 and 13 million. That's why the contract was structured that way.

There are plenty of teams who will sign him to 35mill for 4 years though.

D_it_up · 04-11-2010, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Call him what you like, but he's an important part of the success of this offense.

Sign for and collect are two different numbers.

Depending on the details of each incentive there's no way he would've collected 8 and 12 and 13 million. That's why the contract was structured that way.

There are plenty of teams who will sign him to 35mill for 4 years though.

Reggie's contract was restructured in 2008 before the start of the season. In his original contract, he had about 20 million of it that was not likely to be earned because of incentives. The restructured deal gave pretty much assured him that he would see all of that money as long as he was on the roster. Last season, he received a 4.5 million dollar roster bonus and he will receive 490,000 this year. He will see all of the 8 million this year that is allotted to him within the contract. Next year, it goes up to 11.8 million instead of the 3.575 million he would have received from the original contract. His "not likely to be earned" bonuses have decreased from 20 million to 2.3 million over the next two years.

I like Reggie a lot. I like what he brings in this offensive system. I see him going through this year without restructuring his contract, but next year could be a different story if he doesn't have a Pro Bowl-type season and doesn't restructure.

Scout.com: Saints Cut New Deal With Reggie Bush

poydras · 04-11-2010, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Two totally different type of players.

They are however a perfect PAIR for the same team.

I'll bet there are 25 teams who would take Reggie AND pay him just as much if not more for his services.

Absolutely! The people who criticize Reggie for not being an "every down back" just don't understand the way football is played now. That era ended a decade ago. The way our offense is geared, even Walter Payton wouldn't be out there on every play. Sean matches the personnel with the situation. He does it with the backs and he does it with the receivers.

SaintsFan1967 · 04-11-2010, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by poydras

Absolutely! The people who criticize Reggie for not being an "every down back" just don't understand the way football is played now. That era ended a decade ago. The way our offense is geared, even Walter Payton wouldn't be out there on every play. Sean matches the personnel with the situation. He does it with the backs and he does it with the receivers.

I agree. But is Reggie really over paid? Of course, him and all the rest of 'em. I don't think any ballplayer, no matter what sport, is worth a million dollars. Call me old timer, old fogie or what ever you choose. But that's the way I see it.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: I HATE REGGIE BUSH Originally Posted by poydras My sentiments exactly. Since we signed Reggie, we've been to the NFC Championship twice and won a Super Bowl. No, you can't give all the credit to Reggie or any other single player for that matter, but he has been an important player who has made some game changing plays (re: Arizona game). He's also a team leader and is the face of the Saints. I'm thrilled that absence of a salary cap has enabled him to be a Saint one more year. Why do you say that? Because he's OVER-PAID, that's why. He's the highest paid RB in the NFL, and he isn't even the best RB on his own team.
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Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: I HATE REGGIE BUSH Originally Posted by Danno and he isn't even the best RB on his own team. Hogwash.
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04-11-2010, 07:49 AM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: I HATE REGGIE BUSH Originally Posted by Saint_LB Hogwash. IF I was forced to chose between Bush and PT, I'm taking Pierre Thomas.

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subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,104	Re: I HATE REGGIE BUSH Originally Posted by Danno IF I was forced to chose between Bush and PT, I'm taking Pierre Thomas. If forced to choose one I totally agree with PT...

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,056 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I HATE REGGIE BUSH Originally Posted by Danno IF I was forced to chose between Bush and PT, I'm taking Pierre Thomas. Two totally different type of players. They are however a perfect PAIR for the same team. I'll bet there are 25 teams who would take Reggie AND pay him just as much if not more for his services.

04-11-2010, 08:04 AM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: I HATE REGGIE BUSH Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Two totally different type of players. They are however a perfect PAIR for the same team. I'll bet there are 25 teams who would take Reggie AND pay him just as much if not more for his services. I'd bet there are no more than 3 or 4 that would even consider him at 8 million in 2010, 12 million in 2010 and 13 million in 2012. I don't think anyone pays that much for a scat back and an over-rated punt returner. Well, Oakland maybe, and Washington perhaps.

04-11-2010, 09:55 AM	#7
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,056 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I HATE REGGIE BUSH Originally Posted by Danno I'd bet there are no more than 3 or 4 that would even consider him at 8 million in 2010, 12 million in 2010 and 13 million in 2012. I don't think anyone pays that much for a scat back and an over-rated punt returner. Well, Oakland maybe, and Washington perhaps. Call him what you like, but he's an important part of the success of this offense. Sign for and collect are two different numbers. Depending on the details of each incentive there's no way he would've collected 8 and 12 and 13 million. That's why the contract was structured that way. There are plenty of teams who will sign him to 35mill for 4 years though.

04-11-2010, 11:01 AM	#8
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I HATE REGGIE BUSH Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Call him what you like, but he's an important part of the success of this offense. Sign for and collect are two different numbers. Depending on the details of each incentive there's no way he would've collected 8 and 12 and 13 million. That's why the contract was structured that way. There are plenty of teams who will sign him to 35mill for 4 years though. Reggie's contract was restructured in 2008 before the start of the season. In his original contract, he had about 20 million of it that was not likely to be earned because of incentives. The restructured deal gave pretty much assured him that he would see all of that money as long as he was on the roster. Last season, he received a 4.5 million dollar roster bonus and he will receive 490,000 this year. He will see all of the 8 million this year that is allotted to him within the contract. Next year, it goes up to 11.8 million instead of the 3.575 million he would have received from the original contract. His "not likely to be earned" bonuses have decreased from 20 million to 2.3 million over the next two years. I like Reggie a lot. I like what he brings in this offensive system. I see him going through this year without restructuring his contract, but next year could be a different story if he doesn't have a Pro Bowl-type season and doesn't restructure. Scout.com: Saints Cut New Deal With Reggie Bush

04-11-2010, 09:36 AM	#9
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Re: I HATE REGGIE BUSH Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Two totally different type of players. They are however a perfect PAIR for the same team. I'll bet there are 25 teams who would take Reggie AND pay him just as much if not more for his services. Absolutely! The people who criticize Reggie for not being an "every down back" just don't understand the way football is played now. That era ended a decade ago. The way our offense is geared, even Walter Payton wouldn't be out there on every play. Sean matches the personnel with the situation. He does it with the backs and he does it with the receivers.

04-11-2010, 11:28 AM	#10
SaintsFan1967 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 109	Re: I HATE REGGIE BUSH Originally Posted by poydras Absolutely! The people who criticize Reggie for not being an "every down back" just don't understand the way football is played now. That era ended a decade ago. The way our offense is geared, even Walter Payton wouldn't be out there on every play. Sean matches the personnel with the situation. He does it with the backs and he does it with the receivers. I agree. But is Reggie really over paid? Of course, him and all the rest of 'em. I don't think any ballplayer, no matter what sport, is worth a million dollars. Call me old timer, old fogie or what ever you choose. But that's the way I see it.
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