Nice Saints Draft History Read (busts)
 

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Very good read.

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.......we stink

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whatever happened to vaugn dunbar?

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Interesting trip down (bad) memory lane. He forgot the Ricky Williams draft however. Every team has a list of players like this to bring up though. I doubt we are any worse than league average in drafting through our history.

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Dissapeared in the Bermuda Traigle of Bust

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The Lions and Bengals dome to mind

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Good bet. I'd throw Tampa and the Clowns in that mix as well. They are sure to have a good list of Who nots as well.

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Ahhh, the 'metaphor' writer! LMAO. I just can't stand reading this guys stuff. Everything is "like..." or "as...". Drives me nuts!

And....AND...he left Reggie off the list! muah hah hah hah...

just kidding.

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Hey Canton. Give us a couple Brown's busts to make us feel better whydontcha?

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all of them

**edit**

except some guys named jim brown and joe thomas

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LOL. Come on now. The Cardiac Kids lead by Brian Snipe? Had to be a good pick there somewhere.

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And yes I know it's not Snipe

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I think that Erxleben pick was the worst. Back then, in college, they kicked extra points and field goals off a tee and there was no way to know if you could kick without one. To use a 1st round pick for a punter is typical Saints. Come to think of it, I guess the punter on those teams was pretty important. He touched the ball on one of every four offensive snaps.

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i hate these articles that make it sound like the Saints have totally sucked every year. What about wayne martin, willie, turley, deuce, some of the recent picks?

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Thank you I was thinking the exact same thing!!

Boy did he suck

25 games played
157 attempts
574 yards
3 TDs

Suck!!:doh:

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There is no doubt that he was the worst pick...ever...for any team.

It is a very astute observation, Poydras, regarding kicking off a tee. It makes a giant difference...especially for guys like Erxleben who was one of a dying breed of straight-on kickers. I was a straight-on kicker, and it was almost impossible to make the transition to kicking off the ground, as my heel would drag on the turf. I also tied my ankle up...and I believe that was illegal as well. No foreign matter other than your shoe could hit the ball. In my case it would have been the shoestring tying my ankle up crossing the front of my shoe as it went underneath and wrapped around the cleat in front.

I was not aware that they could not use tees for place-kicks in college any more. Are you sure about that?

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That link doesn't work for me.

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Funny only two first round Punters i can Think of in NFL history are erxslaben and Ray Guy with the Raiders . Guy worked out ok for the Raiders and erxslaben worked out ok for ... The Falcons.... worst football memory as a kid was him throwing the ball to a Falcon who ran it in for a touchdown... I hated that guy!!!

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Hey wasnt Jim Brown a Quiter.. Left years of Football in the tank and went to make movies right!!!

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Only on the kickoff like in the NFL. The problem is that they still use a tee in high school; at least they do here in Mississippi.

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We use tees here in Louisiana for All Place kicks as well!!! I coach a kid who can hit from 50 yards off the tee ( and I have game film of him doing it)but has an outside range of 38 off the ground!!! Go Figure!

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It's probably because of the quality of the fields in high school. The school I was associated with had a natural grass surface with poor drainage that was also used for soccer and resembled a battlefield by mid-season. Even really good soccer players couldn't get a place kick airborne when the ball settled an inch into the mud. Now that a lot of our big schools are going to synthetic turf, I see Mississippi discarding the tee soon.

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Yea our field is used by 2 seperate 5A High schools and never gets a break!!! Ther is a game there every week and if we both have home games which happened twice last year one is played on Thursday the Friday game is in trouble. Gets comical (in a sad way).
By mid season you need a magnyfying glass to find grass on the field.

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Of course, after I said that I remembered that cow pasture they made us (LSU) play penn state on in the Capital One bowl. Nobody could kick on that field either, or do much else for that matter. The NCAA should set some minimum standards on stadiums where bowl games are held.

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At least we didn't draft Ryan Leaf. Worst bust of all time.

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**cough cough*** jamarcus russell **cough cough**

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Rick Mire?...but Leaf frikin takes the cake..and getting popped here in Texas for illegal scripts..i had to laugh when Dallas signed him...lol...laughing now...

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Boy Haz really had a thing for Georgia defensive linemen huh? Although I have to say thatn Alex Molden was terrible for Mora..... He never did squat that I remember.

Year[A] Pick Player name Position College Notes
1967 Leslie Kelley Running back Alabama [a]
1968 7 Kevin Hardy Defensive end Notre Dame [b]
1969 17 John Shinners Guard Xavier [c]
1970 10 Ken Burrough Wide receiver Texas Southern
1971 2 Archie Manning Quarterback Mississippi
1972 8 Royce Smith Guard Georgia
1973 — — No pick — — [d]
1974 13 Rick Middleton Linebacker Ohio State [e]
1975 7 Larry Burton Wide receiver Purdue
1975 12 Kurt Schumacher Offensive tackle Ohio State [f]
1976 3 Chuck Muncie Running back California
1977 7 Joe Campbell Defensive end Maryland
1978 3 Wes Chandler Wide receiver Florida
1979 11 Russell Erxleben Placekicker Texas
1980 Stan Brock Offensive tackle Colorado
1981 1 George Rogers * Running back South Carolina
1982 13 Lindsay Scott Wide receiver Georgia [g]
1983 — — No pick — — [h]
1984 — — No pick — — [i]
1985 24 Alvin Toles Linebacker Tennessee [j]
1986 6 Jim Dombrowski Offensive tackle Virginia [k]
1987 11 Shawn Knight Defensive tackle Brigham Young
1988 24 Craig Heyward Running back Pittsburgh
1989 19 Wayne Martin Defensive end Arkansas
1990 14 Renaldo Turnbull Defensive end West Virginia
1991 — — No pick — — [l]
1992 21 Vaughn Dunbar Running back Indiana
1993 &0000000000000008.0000008 Roaf, WillieWillie Roaf Offensive tackle Louisiana Tech [m]
1993 20 Irv Smith Tight end Notre Dame [n]
1994 13 Joe Johnson Defensive end Louisville [o]
1995 13 Mark Fields Linebacker Washington State
1996 11 Alex Molden Defensive back Oregon
1997 10 Chris Naeole Guard Colorado [p]
1998 7 Kyle Turley Offensive tackle San Diego State
1999 5 Ricky Williams Running back Texas [q]
2000 — — No pick — — [r]
2001 23 Deuce McAllister Running back Mississippi
2002 13 Donté Stallworth Wide receiver Tennessee
2002 25 Charles Grant Defensive end Georgia [s]
2003 6 Johnathan Sullivan Defensive tackle Georgia [t]
2004 18 Will Smith Defensive end Ohio State
2005 13 Jammal Brown Offensive tackle Oklahoma [u]
2006 2 Reggie Bush Running back Southern California
2007 27 Robert Meachem Wide receiver Tennessee
2008 7 Sedrick Ellis Defensive tackle Southern California [v]
2009 14 Malcolm Jenkins Defensive back Ohio State