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TheDeuce 04-13-2010 10:07 PM

Wild idea...
 
I know that I've seen this idea floated somewhere on the board, but I really want to have a serious discussion about this.

We just won the Super Bowl. We have retained just about every integral part of our team from last year. Thus, in my mind, we don't really have many (if any) "holes" to fill except a select few.

I think I'd be willing to trade a large bundle of picks to go up and get Suh. Crazy? Maybe. But this guy seems like he's got HOFer all over him.

In my mind, it comes down to quantity vs. quality. We don't need a lot of picks, we need one or two really good ones.

Thoughts?

exile 04-13-2010 10:19 PM

Re: Wild idea...
 
There isn't a chance on this earth that we could climb that high up the draft. Set your sights a bit lower. There are some good players in the bottom on the 1st round.

papz 04-13-2010 10:22 PM

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Unless we're willing to include our first from next year, I don't believe even if we packed the majority of our picks this year, it still won't be enough to move up that high. Any chance of that happening, we'd have to include Jamal Brown with a group of picks and I'm not sure with all the hype the guy is getting... that the other team would take it. As good as Suh is suppose to become, there's been a TON of highly touted defensive tackles in the pass that never lived up to their billing. I'm more than comfortable keeping our picks and taking the BPA on our board at the time. If we do decide to trade up, I can maybe see up moving up in the mid to low teens... but that's about it.

WVSaint 04-13-2010 10:31 PM

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The only scenario i would like to see us trade up for is if mcclain falls to the late teens/early 20s.

strato 04-13-2010 10:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papz (Post 218208)
Unless we're willing to include our first from next year, I don't believe even if we packed the majority of our picks this year, it still won't be enough to move up that high. Any chance of that happening, we'd have to include Jamal Brown with a group of picks and I'm not sure with all the hype the guy is getting... that the other team would take it. As good as Suh is suppose to become, there's been a TON of highly touted defensive tackles in the pass that never lived up to their billing. I'm more than comfortable keeping our picks and taking the BPA on our board at the time. If we do decide to trade up, I can maybe see up moving up in the mid to low teens... but that's about it.

I agree ..i dont value Suh that much..Who knows its a crapshoot with all these guys.. We are ok across the board so i think we take the BPA..

mikesaintfan 04-14-2010 05:18 AM

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when was the last time we traded up for a DT?...hmmmm passs

SmashMouth 04-14-2010 05:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesaintfan (Post 218232)
when was the last time we traded up for a DT?...hmmmm passs

Here's a picture of him.

http://www.weirdthings.org.uk/wp-con...ing-burger.jpg

hagan714 04-14-2010 06:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesaintfan (Post 218232)
when was the last time we traded up for a DT?...hmmmm passs

LOL good point!

Go no higher than trading up into the teens. the price is to high any further up the draft board.

Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech
or
Sergio Kindle, DE/OLB

poydras 04-14-2010 07:21 AM

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um ... the last time we did that it didn't work out very well.

Sir Psycho Sexy 04-14-2010 08:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WVSaint (Post 218209)
The only scenario i would like to see us trade up for is if mcclain falls to the late teens/early 20s.

As a big Bama fan I'd love to have him but not sure he'd live up to his potiental in our system. He'd be good for us, but he's a MLB for a 3-4. He's smart enough to pick up moving out left or right but he needs to be a MLB somehwere and preferably in a 3-4. My opinion.

saintsfan1976 04-14-2010 08:22 AM

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And then, there was Mount Cody...


http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...odywarning.jpg

Euphoria 04-14-2010 10:50 AM

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For one its not Sean's style really.

Second that move could hurt this franchise for many years to come if it fails.

Stay put or trade back... we don't need to reach. Seans reputation at finding gems have paid off thus for.

Choupique 04-14-2010 12:25 PM

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i trust the front office.

one word: colston

they've pulled diamonds out of the rough before...
they can do it again.


two dat, i tell ya.

Papa Voodoo 04-14-2010 01:23 PM

Re: Wild idea...
 
Isn't Suh the next Glenn Dorsey?

st thomas 04-14-2010 01:52 PM

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it sounds testy to go that high for suh, but it would cost more than next years no 1 . bpa probably won't happen unless he's lb or te, dt, thats in the picks on our board,and maybe the likes of a colt mccoy still being there. nota

darstep 04-14-2010 02:25 PM

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Its funny (not really) how winning seems to hide a multitude of faults. We got away with murder last year...and please don't think I'm not happy about it. Since we won it all, I'll go ahead and open that can of worms: Imagine Favre not throwing that pic, somehow beating the Colts, and still being carried around on the shoulders of Vike fans. Would our conversation be different? I say YES! very much so. The same things that erked me before the SB, still rub me raw while rubbing the trophy. We will not be able to play the "same" football we played last year and hope to repeat. Defensively weak up front, no depth, no speed over the top, poor tackling, inconsistent on offense (run and pass). We are not going to be able to re-sign everybody and our dynamic will be much different in 2010. We will need every pick we have and will need to use great care in applying each one. We definitely should not package them for a dream.

saintsfan1976 04-14-2010 02:31 PM

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[quote=Euphoria;218277] For one its not Sean's style really.

Trading up? YES. That far? NO

[QUOTE=Euphoria;218277] Second that move could hurt this franchise for many years to come if it fails.

Don't get me started....

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:q...lamsnditka.jpg


Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 218277)
Stay put or trade back... we don't need to reach. Seans reputation at finding gems have paid off thus for.

What do you mean "reach"? If it's moving up 5 spots in the first round or to beat the Falcons to the punch...is it a reach then?

Tobias-Reiper 04-14-2010 02:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 218318)
Isn't Suh the next Glenn Dorsey?


OUCH!!

st thomas 04-14-2010 02:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 218350)
OUCH!!

i'm wondering if mount is on our board and how high is he. he would help the team in some capacity if he awesome or a bust. he could sell about 40-60 tickets a home game depending if we can fill the greyhound. lol

Tobias-Reiper 04-14-2010 03:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 218362)
i'm wondering if mount is on our board and how high is he.


..can't tell you how high,
but surely can tell you how wide! ba ba boom pshhhhhhh!

Thank you, I'll be here all offseason. Tip Halo on your way out.

TheDeuce 04-14-2010 08:11 PM

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Suh is a can't miss guy in my opinion. There were a lot of concerns about Dorsey's health and height. Suh is a beast, I'd do it in a heart beat.

By the way, saying we shouldn't trade up for a DT because it went poorly the last time is an idiotic argument. That's like saying "Well last time we drafted a quarterback, it didn't turn out well, so I won't draft this Peyton Manning guy." There's NO CORRELATION between what happened with Sullivan and this year's draft. None so stop bringing that up.

strato 04-14-2010 08:20 PM

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I want to keep our picks...

QBREES9 04-14-2010 08:20 PM

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I can't wait for the draft to happen.

strato 04-14-2010 08:22 PM

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Me to....

skymike 04-15-2010 11:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 218384)
..can't tell you how high,
but surely can tell you how wide! ba ba boom pshhhhhhh!

Thank you, I'll be here all offseason. Tip Halo on your way out.

you're killing us in the aisles! hahahaha....

mikesaintfan 04-15-2010 07:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by strato (Post 218447)
I want to keep our picks...

me too...especially with the whole "final four thing"..to move from 32 to 2 would cost alot of pics and maybe players...Sp has shown us he can get great players anywhere...

CantonLegend 04-16-2010 02:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesaintfan (Post 218232)
when was the last time we traded up for a DT?...hmmmm passs

technically......2008 when we drafted sedrick ellis #7 overall

mikesaintfan 04-16-2010 09:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 218770)
technically......2008 when we drafted sedrick ellis #7 overall

good point canton

Rugby Saint II 04-16-2010 11:13 AM

Re: Wild idea...
 
I'm a big fan of our scouting department.........let them tell Sean who they like and I'll support their suggestions.

neugey 04-16-2010 12:09 PM

Re: Wild idea...
 
I agree that Suh is a can't miss talent, but it's not wise to put our eggs in one basket. What if he has injury problems, or just doesn't do as well against shifty RB's or QB's who get rid of the ball faster? Better to spread the wealth, with how good this draft is.


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