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Danno 04-28-2010 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 222983)
guess what.....36 rushes averaging out to 4 ypc is still a first down every 3 plays......did we give up big gains? maybe not...but big gains are also the fault of a secondary and LB corps....

the 4 yard gains.....those are the fault of the defensive line......while it may be an average stat......it still shows they could move the ball

if my team gained 4 yards every time i ran the ball, i wouldnt do anything else the entire game

but maybe its not me who should do the homework

games like st louis......we gave up 4.5 ypc

we gave up 4.7 ypc to miami

we gave up 4.7 ypc to minnesota

we gave up 5.2 ypc to indianapolis

we gave up 6.7 ypc to atlanta the first time we played and 4.2 ypc the second time we played when michael turner and matt ryan were hurt

we gave up 5.1 ypc to carolina the first time and 4.9 ypc the second time with our backups in

we gave up 5.2 ypc to tampa the first game and 5.2 the second time

thats 10 games in which we gave up more ypc than average and thats the only games i bothered to look at.....should i look at the other ones? or is this enough to rest my case?
No, but if you use examples, at least use ones that support your case, not ones that contradict it, as you originally did.

CantonLegend 04-28-2010 12:53 PM
Re: The Missing Pieces for a Rep
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno (Post 222987)
No, but if you use examples, at least use ones that support your case, not ones that contradict it, as you originally did.
like which ones? the teams that rushed for 145 yards and 141 yards?

did i prove my point or not?

Danno 04-28-2010 01:04 PM
Re: The Missing Pieces for a Rep
 
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Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 222989)
like which ones? the teams that rushed for 145 yards and 141 yards?

did i prove my point or not?
Again, it was only about 5 posts ago...

Dallas 4.0 YPC - that average would rank 25th in the NFL
Washington 3.5 - that average would rank 30th in the NFL

Both examples you used that contradict your point instead of supporting it.

CantonLegend 04-28-2010 01:16 PM
Re: The Missing Pieces for a Rep
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno (Post 222996)
Again, it was only about 5 posts ago...

Dallas 4.0 YPC - that average would rank 25th in the NFL
Washington 3.5 - that average would rank 30th in the NFL

Both examples you used that contradict your point instead of supporting it.
was it this post where i named off 5 teams? all of which had success against us

all of which had success running the ball and controlling the ball and could've beaten us if it werent for some luck

the ypc stat isnt the only one to take into consideration

Quote:
Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 222794)
the problem is that you looked at the end result

saints 13/ opponents 3

the saints could've and should've lost a few more games but by the grace of breesus we managed to pull those games out of our butts

games like dallas, st louis, washington, miami, minnesota, etc all were able to move the ball against us fairly well if not at will

Danno 04-28-2010 01:58 PM
Re: The Missing Pieces for a Rep
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 223003)
was it this post where i named off 5 teams? all of which had success against us
If by success against us you mean that we held two of those teams to a rushing average that would rank near the bottom of the NFL, then yes.

homerj07 04-29-2010 02:06 PM
Re: The Missing Pieces for a Rep
 
We are doing some things about DT - We need a LB

chasercg 05-03-2010 08:58 AM
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Canfield beats out Brees??? There is no way!!!!!

CheramieIII 05-03-2010 09:04 AM
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I picked DT and LB, but if Woods works out and the younger LB's take hold then I might say just leave it alone.

SaintPauly 05-03-2010 11:18 PM
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I picked DT, and I will tell you why. We have some guys, coming back from injury, that we don't even really know how they are going to look at LB. With the loss of Grant, (which I can't believe I'm going to say this), who was good at stopping the run, we need another space eater next to Ellis. Now, who knows, Woods could be that guy. Lord knows he's big enough. But I wouldn't mind signing some insurance, to make sure. If we get another all pro DT, then skies the limit. But let's also remember, that when Ellis got hurt last year, teams were running all over us. God forbid, but what if Ellis goes down again? Are you THAT confident in the other DTs we have on the roster? I'm not.

darstep 05-05-2010 10:39 AM
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DE - Good play on the edges will open up alot of opportunities for our defense. If we can bottle up the ends and send runners deep or force them inside, we can create advantages on the early downs. Defense is still the key for a Saints repeat. I believe our interior will be fine. Speed on the outside, good power rusher and/or an active LB to help Vilma. I tossed a coin (DE vs LB) and it fell on DE. What ever we do, it needs to be done up front.

joker-saint 05-06-2010 09:13 PM
Re: The Missing Pieces for a Rep
 
While losing Fujita was a serious loss to the team, I feel that Shanley has what it takes to fill in there. The Defensive end position is where my concern is. If we cant maintain pressure on quarterbacks we mine as well call it a day.

Marlboro Man 05-08-2010 01:44 AM
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I voted DE cause I'm not satisfied with 2 stop gap players and none are disruptive like Hughes could have been or one of the others we could have had. I also voted DT because we need a talent next to Sed Ellis to make this a solid line. I then voted for OLB which was only listed as LB but we are severely lacking speed at the second level. Next I voted S because if we are going to keep MJ at corner now that Sharp has resigned, we need his replacement on the team to get him ready, and though I like Harp at SS, he could really be upgraded with more speed and cover ability.


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