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DblBogey 09-21-2010 10:14 PM

My greatest fear has been realized . . .
 
I have been telling sone Who Datians that I work with since last year that I wished they would not use Reggie to run back punts. They have just blown off my comments telling me how good he was fielding punts. Well my greatest fear came true last night. He is much more valuable to the team as a RB than he is as a punt returner. I am afraid after reading on fibula fractures that Reggie will be out longer than 6 weeks. Wanting a good chance for 6 points has caused a big paradigm shift for our offense . . .

jshockeyfan 09-21-2010 10:28 PM

Personally I have always liked Courtney Roby as the kick/punt returner. But, maybe that is just me...

MatthewT 09-21-2010 10:29 PM

I don't know if I agree with not using him on punt returns. You have to put the ball into the hands of play makers, and with his potential to turn a game around is just too much to ignore. I do see your point that his value to the offense makes it risky to use him on special teams, but he is just too good not to use on punt returns.

My guess is it's pretty safe to assume when he does return from the injury, he will not be returning any more punts this year. At least in the regular season...

D_it_up 09-21-2010 10:32 PM

I had a clean break of both the tibia and the fibula of my right leg when I was a child. I was in a cast for about three months. I still had to walk on crutches for about three weeks after the cast was removed, but I was able to start adding more pressure to my step every day. Now, I was not even close to the physical stature that Reggie Bush is, but I was very active and athletic. I know that a fracture isn't as severe as a clean break, and the recovery time is probably less, but I honestly would be surprised if he is back on the field in six weeks.

SaintPauly 09-21-2010 10:35 PM

I'm sorry, in my opinion you don't let your 8 million dollar a year running back, return punts. I said this last year. MY OPINION, before someone yells at me..... He's too important to the offense to be doing that.

QBREES9 09-21-2010 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 248092)
I'm sorry, in my opinion you don't let your 8 million dollar a year running back, return punts. I said this last year. MY OPINION, before someone yells at me..... He's too important to the offense to be doing that.

Agree !!! Let Roby do it.

DRsaints 09-21-2010 11:10 PM

Yeah it's kinda tricky. It seems almost every time Bush has gotten hurt it was on a punt return. He hurt himself last time returning a punt. The sad thing is that he wouldn't have gotten hurt if he had fielded the ball cleanly. I know the terrible Candlestick wind didn't help, but they did say Lance Moore was better at fielding punts.

QBREES9 09-21-2010 11:11 PM

All the more reason to get someone else in there.

Choupique 09-22-2010 05:20 AM

Thank goodness none of you coach football teams.
Hmm. Perhaps ya'll should apply with the Falcons for coaching jobs, on second thought...

:/

Players get hurt. It isn't if, it is when.

The reason they do is they're willing to gladly do the dangerous stuff.
They WANT to. They aren't like you folks.

Those differences are why the Saints have a ring.

Thanks, Coaches P&W. Keep making the decisions that many don't agree with. Nice start at 2-0, btw.

Saint_LB 09-22-2010 05:42 AM

I understand your concern, but my ""greatest fear" would be if they started letting Drew return punts...:)

Euphoria 09-22-2010 10:58 AM

Lets not play him at all in case he gets hurt??? Poor argument.

He is a football player, you play him in the best situations to win games.

I think maybe we sit Brees until the playoffs in case he gets hurt...

papz 09-22-2010 11:26 AM

Freak injury... I have no issues with having our most electrifying punt returner, return punts. Now if he were our number 1 tail back getting all the reps back there, I'd have a different opinion on the matter... but he's not and while he'll be missed, we'll survive. It's not like he's been the most healthy guy over the years... our offensive production will not suffer.

LBCutta 09-22-2010 12:00 PM

sorry but I dont think we will miss Bush's 6 carries for 15 yards and 3 catches for 25 yards too much. He is really just one less weapon he was a big part of our offense but at the same time he wasn't...

caddieman 09-22-2010 12:18 PM

I think the loss of Bush hurts you more than you might think. Do you have someone that can take the place of Bush and get the same amount of production?...........No. So therefore your O is less productive. Its got to be. Now is it a big drop off?.....No. But to say that there will be no down side is just silly.

caddieman 09-22-2010 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 248238)
We do have some clueless fans here bro..with that said ..come to the smack board...if you aint too chikin...

You mean I can go over there and humiliate you? lol!

Rugby Saint II 09-22-2010 12:43 PM

I think one of Paytons fears was realized. He looked very upset when Reggie got hurt. Of course he looked concerned first. He just wanted Reggie in the game to make something happen.

darstep 09-22-2010 12:57 PM

Payton was concerned for the player and the man, but he is the ultimate persona guy and the leader in the war on body language. He was already into plan B mode. He's not going to allow the temporary loss of Reggie to become a head hanger, it will become an opportunity for more Shockey, Thomas, and Moore...double the PT and hedge some Betts. No one can swing a defense like Reggie, but Oh well! His skills will have to rest for awhile and someone else is going to have to step it up because thats what Champions do.

papz 09-22-2010 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by caddieman (Post 248237)
I think the loss of Bush hurts you more than you might think. Do you have someone that can take the place of Bush and get the same amount of production?...........No. So therefore your O is less productive. Its got to be. Now is it a big drop off?.....No. But to say that there will be no down side is just silly.

In games missed by Bush the last 3 years combined(12 total), we've averaged 33.3 points per game. That isn't a small sample size. There should be little if any drop off in offensive production with Bush injured. When one guy goes down, we've done an excellent job over the years getting production from some where else.

caddieman 09-22-2010 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 248259)
In games missed by Bush the last 3 years combined(12 total), we've averaged 33.3 points per game. That isn't a small sample size. There should be little if any drop off in offensive production with Bush injured. When one guy goes down, we've done an excellent job over the years getting production from some where else.

Then you should cut him it you don't need him........................Right? lol!

homerj07 09-22-2010 01:02 PM

I am also concerned about the muffs - Lets face it... IF Reggie had not muffed the punt there would not have been a dog pile & he probably doesn't get hurt.

caddieman 09-22-2010 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 248266)
Why would cut a superbowl winning RB...lol..oh you wouldnt know..candicane

You are asking the wrong Guy. Ask your buddy who said that you guys are the same with Bush as without him! LOL.

papz 09-22-2010 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by caddieman (Post 248261)
Then you should cut him it you don't need him........................Right? lol!

I didn't say any where we didn't need him. He adds an extra dynamic to our offense... which is quite valuable. However, we have zero issues with putting up points with him out for extended amounts of time... which is a fact.

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You are asking the wrong Guy. Ask your buddy who said that you guys are the same with Bush as without him! LOL.
Once again, you're pulling words out your backside. We aren't the same without Bush... obviously our offense changes without him in there as certain plays won't be called anymore. With that said, we have zero issues of replacing his production else where on the roster as we've done with stars on our team in the past. When Colston went down, Lance Moore stepped up. When Bush goes down, Mike Bell and Pierre Thomas brought their game to a different level. When Jamal Brown got hurt, Bushrod stepped in and we won a Superbowl.

We're a talented team with a great system. When one player goes down, we tinker a couple of things and we're still a well oiled offensive machine. FACT. While Bush will be missed as DC's always had to account for him, we've shown in the past on numerous occasions that we can more than survive a month and whatever without him.

Please don't let all this overwhelm you.

st thomas 09-22-2010 01:42 PM

33 points a game without him and a 8-4 record. thats all we need to know. besides what kind of fracture his injury is. thats where paytons going to play bluff the opponents what game he will be back. there's so many different degree's of damage. 4-12 weeks depending.

TheOak 09-22-2010 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by D_it_up (Post 248090)
I had a clean break of both the tibia and the fibula of my right leg when I was a child. I was in a cast for about three months. I still had to walk on crutches for about three weeks after the cast was removed, but I was able to start adding more pressure to my step every day. Now, I was not even close to the physical stature that Reggie Bush is, but I was very active and athletic. I know that a fracture isn't as severe as a clean break, and the recovery time is probably less, but I honestly would be surprised if he is back on the field in six weeks.

Your situation was different. The Tibia is the weight bearing bone. That is why you were off for so long. The Fibula is a non-weight bearing bone.

Rest easy. Unless there are complications 4-6 weeks is the norm for recovery.
MDAdvice.com - Health Library - Sports Injuries
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It is impossible to predict exactly how long it will take for any fracture to heal. Variable factors include age, sex and previous state of health and conditioning. The average healing time for this fracture is 4 to 6 weeks. Healing is considered complete when there is no motion at the fracture site and when X-rays show complete bone union.


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