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Originally Posted by strato (Post 249842)

Hartley hero to zero....lol

Isn't that how it is with kickers..lol

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Originally Posted by KingCutta (Post 249853)

Isn't that how it is with kickers..lol

Yep, they are journeymen. The only time I've seen a kicker given the boot who did not deserve it was when the Saints booted Morten Anderson...

But that, children, is a bed-time story for another night... or one we should forget about entirely :)

Didn't Stover kick against us in the SB. I am pretty sure that he replaced Vinateri. He wouldn't be bad he kicked for Bal for a long time.

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Originally Posted by KingCutta (Post 249841)

I wish people would stop bailing Hartley out. Sure, we didnt play well the entire game. But we pulled it together in OT and put our idiot kicker on the 11 yard line for a chipshot and he missed it. THAT IS THE KICKERS FAULT!

Exactly....Perfect snap, perfect hold, and SHAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNK!

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Originally Posted by KingCutta (Post 249841)

I'm not bailing Hartley out, but if he'd missed the kick in the 1st quarter and we lost by 2 it wouldn't be as big of a deal.

Hartley screwed up. Another kicker could be worse. Hartley play outstanding last season. I think we bring in Carney and keep 2 kickers again. I don't think the Saints organization is giving up on him.

Carney is money from 20 and in. Great. Stover isn't much better. Accurate only in tight. Both are too old to have a shot at anything 40+. I'd vote Kris Brown and make Hartley dual him for the job. I'd like to see Garrett stick around if he can get out of this funk and start being a professional.

I've come to the conclusion that if anything goes wrong, it's Jordan Jefferson's fault.

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Originally Posted by lumm0x (Post 249912)

Carney is money from 20 and in.

Oh yea... remember this?

YouTube - John Carney Missed extra point

Radio station in New Orleans are stating that Carney will come in as a Kicker coach to help Hartley.
It should be noted that Hartley was 85% last year.

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Originally Posted by realheavyd (Post 249704)

I can't believe that Sean Payton and Garrett Hartley blew this win over Atlanta for our Saints.

First of all, why kick it on 1st down with over 9 minutes left on the OT clock when you could still keep driving toward a TD for a more "in your face" win?

Secondly, Hartley over-thought a simple straight ahead kick and pushed it to the left for the miss! What? Are you freaking kidding me? Put it straight through the damn uprights man! You're in a Dome, for crying out loud! You don't have to compensate for wind or anything!!!

I agree Heavy D, but if Coach P had kept going on the drive and PT fumbled it, then everyone would probably be mad that he didn't just get into field goal range and boot it in instead of trying to make style points.

As far as Hartley goes...I still think he could be the answer for the Saints. I don't know what is going on with him this year but I would like to see him get through it and move forward.

I'm for giving the kid another shot. He had a horrible game 1, was money in game 2 and hit 1 of 2 in game 3. His first being a cold blooded kick from 32 yards out to force OT with 4 ticks left in the game.

If Hartley can't get his act together, then I'm for getting rid of him. But I hope he can get through this.