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Payton's Play Calling
I, like every other Who Dats, am searching for a reason for our lack of performance this season. I am dwelling on Payton's play calling. What is different between this year and last year. I think the difference is that last year Payton's play calling was unpredictable. He kept the defenses guessing what was going to happen next . . . they stayed off balance. This year it seems the play calling is conservative compared to last year. It is like our plays are predictable, as if they know what play is coming next. I think Payton needs to go back to the "leave it all on the field' attitude. Do completely opposite of what the defenses are expecting. Put the element of surprise back in our offense. Just my humble opinion . . .
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Could be that after all these years, teams are putting out defenses tailored from watching our offense rip them to shreds. Although we have left a bunch of points on the field this season so far, namely 3 last Sunday afternoon. In my opinion we have to trust the staff that got us to the promised land. Around week 14 or 15 this slow start will be a moot point.
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Maybe they are giving Coach knock off juicy fruit gum. SP doesn't seem to have that wild look in his eyes on the sidelines. He needs to become unpredictable again cause you know we are well studied now.
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I don't see it as bad play-calling; more like bad fundamentals is what I see.
Receivers not catching the ball, defense not tackling, kickers not kicking, just a lack of effort all the way around for the most part... |
To me its still to early. I can't question the man who won a Super Bowl.
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I am seeing some of the same things on offense that I saw for the Bucs game that was lost at home last year. Player going down instead of reaching out for the first down, dump off passes going for 3-4 yards instead of 15-20, the deep ball not being there. Those are things that we need to keep drives going and put points on the board.
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Still too early to tell. If Hartley would have made that field goal we would be 3-0 and wouldn't even be talking about SP's playcalling.
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Maybe he's trying to let things settle down before he pulls another rabbit out of his hat...
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I don't think that we can lay the blame at Paytons feet. I agree that part of the problem is in the execution.
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I love it...
People questioning Payton's play calling... a guy who calls an onside kick to start the second half of the Super Bowl. He makes these calls because of the way he thinks and his brain is wired. What he sees and believes. No one complained that faithful night... and now we lose a game and people call his play calling into question. I have noticed the playing calling and see him running the same plays and running plays to set things up for later. It isn't the play calling it is the execution... and how about the other paid professional who get paid to stop our offense? I think he gets a free pass to call any damn plays he wants and not be second guess for at least a year. After all how many Coaches we have had that one a Super Bowl with our pathetic team? I can count them on one hand, lol. |
What about GW's play-calling? We haven't gotten to anybody yet this year.
That delayed blitz we keep running is driving me crazy--the end result has been 3 LB's flat-footed at the line of scrimmage |
Drop passes aren't play calling.
Missed blocks aren't play calling. O-line getting dominated isn't play calling. I'll advised passes for picks aren't play calling. |
It's still very early in the season to start finger pointing.
Let's see how the next few games go which, according to the media, are "supposed" to be easier for us. I don't actually think there is such a thing as an "easier" game in the NFL. Especially when you are defending champions. But we will see. Hopefully things will click into place on both sides of the ball and we will see the team back on track. Geaux Saints! |
we will get through this. its just not clickiin yet, were 2-1 and will be 3-1 by monday.
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As a couple of people have said, the play calling is not the problem. It only takes a couple of plays to make the difference between winning and losing, and the difference so far this year has been a few plays made or not made.
The problem is not the play calling, it's the EXECUTION. |
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I feel like Bree's needs to stop doing interviews on 60 minutes and get to the practice field. |
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For the most part its execution but it sure did look like he left his stones at the 11 last sunday, last year he would of gone for the win and not played the percentages
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The one thing I do think needs to be addressed is the time of possession. We have to find ways of equalizing this. It is one significant thing that is keeping teams alive against us. We have to get off the field on third downs defensively and sustain longer drives when we have the ball.
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My observations are that:
1) after the 1st drive, where all the plays are scripted, it seems like the playcalling gets a bit cute and un-purposeful. There seems more of an effort to be misdirecting than moving toward a score. Not until there is a limited amount of time does the offensive playcalling get more directed. 2) the scheme has not figured out how to deal with a cover 4. 3) the offensive line is not dominating any 4 man front. Brees is forced to check down due to protection issues, not coverage |
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It seems our best playcalling occurs in the 1st drive or two, and when we're in hurry up. Odd Everyone thinks we struggle against a 3-4, but so far we're getting our asses handed to us by both. I've read a solid run game will exploit cover 4, but so far our O-line hasn't gotten that message. It appears our opponents have figured that out. |
i think he's going conservative for a reason...payton always has a plan from what i've seen
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We come out blazing that first drive and then seem to go in the tank |
Unhappy with the way we played today, so will post my thoughts here:
Drew just doesn't seem to be trying. Every time we have a chance to put the other team away, he just... isn't there. He laid an egg in the biggest game in the franchise's history- NFCCG, and though I agreed with the field goal try last week, I was pissed both because of payton's lack of imagination in the playcalling on the last drive today and Drew's seeming lack of effort. I'm teetering over the edge on the Brees bandwagon, close to falling off, and my foot is starting to slip on payton's. My heart will always be with the Saints, so please don't question me on that. I just see an offense that, on the whole, always threatens the jugular- and then pulls back. The defense can't bail us out every week. I still think that we at least get to the NFCCG again, but I am really getting discouraged by this team. Our "cutesy" approach won't last forever. |
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The whole offense looks sloppy and uninterested out ther on the field. Watched todays game with a friend who doesn't know a whole lot about football but commented on the body language of the whole group. He thought they looked tired and spent.
Execution is a big big key. 2 fumbles and 7 dropped passes is the difference between 28-14 and 16-14. |
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I live in New Orleans. Have for my entire life, save for college and post-Katrina. Had Saints wallpaper as a kid. As an 8-or-so year old, cried at a game- because I was surrounded by Vikings fans, and the Vikings won. probably spend more money and emotional energy supporting the Saints in a given year than the two of you combined have in a lifetime. drunken posts on a message board do not equal fan loyalty, just fyi. |
There's too many calls where the pass has to be perfect. There's too many deeper routes being called on third and five. Overall it's execution. Teams are clearly trying to prevent the big play from the Saints. And, the Saints aren't converting on the underneath stuff well enough. 3-1.
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I went to the game today and there were a lot of frustrated fans in the dome. I think the Saints were keying in on ball control and time of possession... but the 3 fumbles KILLED the whole plan.
We can't make those kinds of mistakes and expect to win. I'll take the win. |
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