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biloxi-indian 11-03-2010 05:26 PM

Pierre Thomas almost traded to Pats?
 
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Word out of Foxborough, Mass., is that Saints running back Pierre Thomas (injured left ankle and all) apparently was close to becoming a member of the New England Patriots.

New Orleans Saints Notebook: Tracy Porter close to return; Pierre Thomas almost traded

dizzle88 11-03-2010 05:32 PM

We wanted to Trade PT for a cornerback! even though we are getting like 3 of our healthy ones back in the next 2 weeks, if its true that absolutely sucks!!
PT can't be replaced like that, hes too much of an assett to our team, we better not be alienating our best players.

MatthewT 11-03-2010 05:36 PM

No idea how much truth there is to this, but the writing may be on the wall that PT is not part of the Saints immediate or future plans. He is a very talented RB, but I guess at some point the Saints will need to pull the plug on him.

RaginCajun83 11-03-2010 05:42 PM

Devil's adovate ... do the Saints really need PT with a healthy Reggie and Ivory?

Saintswrath 11-03-2010 05:54 PM

PT is only hurting himself by playing dice with this injury, he's not getting any gametime which means his value is shrinking either way, if he's being told by his agent to not play and fake the injury then he need to be traded and we need to get the best we can from losing him, if it's a real injury and he can come back soon thats great and i hope we pay him eventually, but if Bush is coming back from a Broken leg and we're getting other players back from various other more lethal injuries i truly believe he's faking it.

biloxi-indian 11-03-2010 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 259392)
We wanted to Trade PT for a cornerback! even though we are getting like 3 of our healthy ones back in the next 2 weeks, if its true that absolutely sucks!!
PT can't be replaced like that, hes too much of an assett to our team, we better not be alienating our best players.

If the CB was Darius Butler I might be able to see the logic (pure speculation on my part).

The Saints are going to have to pay Drew...he isn't going anywhere. Reggie is getting big bucks and a slew of others contracts need to be negotiated. Hamilton will be back next year, now Ivory with journeymen Jones and Betts at minimums.

jcp026 11-03-2010 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by biloxi-indian (Post 259409)
If the CB was Darius Butler I might be able to see the logic (pure speculation on my part).

The Saints are going to have to pay Drew...he isn't going anywhere. Reggie is getting big bucks and a slew of others contracts need to be negotiated. Hamilton will be back next year, now Ivory with journeymen Jones and Betts at minimums.

I like Pierre as much as anyone, but for Butler or McCourty? It's a no brainer. Especially with the emergence of Ivory and the play of Jones.


PIERRE THOMAS FOR GOVERNOR!!!

papz 11-03-2010 06:42 PM

I don't see Pierre as the type of player who would fake an injury and sit out this long. This is his contract year... and if he wants to get any sort of long term commitment from this team or any other team for that matter, and for a good dollar amount, he would not be faking injury. I read a report somewhere a week ago that he's been to 3 specialist... and was advised not to get back on the field.

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I REALLY believe Pierre has been faking this injury after reading this. I would be shock to see him ever suit up again for us. The Pats have a slew of draft picks, i wish we could've moved him.

What a cry baby, sulking over a contract. I really thought he was a team player. I'm disappointed.
What exactly in this article even suggest that he's faking an injury or sulking over a contract?

Nothing.

In addition to sporting a walking boot Thursday, Pierre Thomas (ankle) was also getting around with the aid of crutches.

Thomas says his ankle has "gotten a lot better," and he's only following his foot and ankle specialist's orders to take pressure off. Although the swelling has gone down, Thomas is "upset" that he's not making more tangible progress. "I really don't know what's the whole problem," he said. "Everybody keeps saying it's a sprain or maybe a little tear there. I don't know for sure if that's true. I'm hearing so many different stories. I don't know what to believe." We don't expect to see him in game action before Week 11.

Source: NewOrleans.com


A foot and ankle specialist has advised Pierre Thomas to get back in a walking boot and reduce the workload on his injured ankle.

It's the third doctor to evaluate Thomas since he sustained the injury a month ago. The specialist's advice suggests Thomas can't just "tough it out" as coach Sean Payton would like. It's not going to make Payton feel any better about his extended absence, though. Thomas missed practice again Thursday, and a Week 11 return after the Saints' bye looks like the most likely scenario at this point.

Source: Jeff Duncan on Twitter


Let's flush that not a team player non-sense down the toilet. Absolutely nothing suggest that and he's been a consummate professional since he's put on a Saints uniform.

MatthewT 11-03-2010 06:49 PM

Thomas is not faking his injury, he has no incentive to. However, the Saints have to be frustrated with him at this point. Dude has not stayed healthy for most of his stay. He adds extreme value to the Saints both running and receiving, but at some point the Saints have to move on.

Boutte 11-03-2010 07:15 PM

Faking an injury just makes absolutely no sense. What does he have to gain from it? Is it going gain him any leverage in contract negotiations? I hate to see this for the guy. He's worked hard to get where he is and now when he's in a position to cash in this happens to him.

Get well soon P.T. and good luck with the rest of your season and career.

Euphoria 11-03-2010 07:53 PM

I don't buy it. I was surprised PT even got back in the game after that weird turn.

I don't think PT is a bad RB but he isn't anything close to warrant Steven Jackson money though.

A lot of players are actually benefiting from being in this system of Sean's. Seriously these guys have to realize that.

Rugby Saint II 11-03-2010 07:56 PM

With PT in the game we have the best screen game in the business. He is elusive and powerful with good speed. I like him a lot. He is the perfect runner for the system. Ivory doesn't understand how to read a block he just runs into the blockers back. He has no vision.

QBREES9 11-03-2010 08:36 PM

you can't make the club if your in the tube. You also can't paid either.

vpheughan 11-03-2010 08:45 PM

How can you be an effective RB running on one foot?

Speedy Ron 11-03-2010 09:47 PM

The trade actually makes alot of sense. he wont be here next year so we obviously wont get anything for him when he walks. the way it looks now he wont even get on the field this year. i would take mccourty in a second. yes we have good corners but porter cant stay healthy and by the looks of it neither can robinson. mccourty is better than robinson anyway. i would also take one of their safeties.
to me this trade would have been great. we wont get anything for the guy now.

Turbo Saint 11-03-2010 10:30 PM

can the dude not just be hurt? that's what i'm going with...

Euphoria 11-04-2010 10:35 AM

Manning becomes a FA at the end of the season???

st thomas 11-04-2010 11:15 AM

it has to be ligament damage. a surgery puts him on ir if not 50-50 he'll play again theis year. it has to be that simple. faking an injury kills career.if he's around or i should say if we're around for the playoffs pt could be as fresh as a spring chicken going in. reggies going to be back, it will take some heat off drew and wrs

SaintPauly 11-04-2010 11:31 AM

Without PT, I don't think we would be world champions right now. The guy plays with extreme heart, and determination. If he is looking to be overpaid, then I understand his leaving, (although, I don't see any teams that will pay him that type of money anywhere else either). Would love to keep this guy if possible.

LBCutta 11-04-2010 02:45 PM

I've always thought PT was a good strong back....but he is not very quick! Ivory is quick and strong. With a little coaching, Ivory is all that PT is and more, for less money and no whining about a contract. I like PT but if he gone then I trust enough in he organization that our running game will not take a hit.

st thomas 11-04-2010 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 259397)
And Jones...just rewatched the game JJ is a good back..he was getting what he could...all that aside....i like P.T and hope he comes back...but if not..then so be it..

i did'nt want to be the first one to say that jj is really impressing me. he looks fresh like in his early years. he fits better than betts

Speedy Ron 11-04-2010 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 259593)
i did'nt want to be the first one to say that jj is really impressing me. he looks fresh like in his early years. he fits better than betts



i hate betts. get him outta here

Danno 11-04-2010 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Magic (Post 259642)
Well since McCourty was drafted before Robinson he should be better right? Still that's debatable. Chances are the DB was Butler and not the number 1 draft pick McCourty.

But the deal fell thru because the Pats wanted PT AND an extra pick. I don't think Butler warranted PT and the extra draft pick. I think it was McCourty.

504state 11-05-2010 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 259392)
We wanted to Trade PT for a cornerback! even though we are getting like 3 of our healthy ones back in the next 2 weeks, if its true that absolutely sucks!!
PT can't be replaced like that, hes too much of an assett to our team, we better not be alienating our best players.

Why? Pierre is a dime a dozen player. Decent back, blocking and good at passes out of the backfield, but thats just it good not great. He is one of the most replaceable players at a skill position we have. pLus he is starting to look like a little *****.

504state 11-05-2010 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Saintswrath (Post 259399)
PT is only hurting himself by playing dice with this injury, he's not getting any gametime which means his value is shrinking either way, if he's being told by his agent to not play and fake the injury then he need to be traded and we need to get the best we can from losing him, if it's a real injury and he can come back soon thats great and i hope we pay him eventually, but if Bush is coming back from a Broken leg and we're getting other players back from various other more lethal injuries i truly believe he's faking it.

LOL I dont think I would call any of the injuries lethal. That may be exaggerating just a bit.

TheOak 11-05-2010 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A SAINT (Post 259646)
BRing P>T back i dont think hes fakn ****.....way better than fumbln ivory will ever be...Cmon saints.. Bring em back..

Ivory has not fumbled in 3 weeks.


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