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504state 11-27-2010 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Saintswrath (Post 265328)
Unfortunately it was a Holiday, holidays bring drinking, Testosterone and adrenaline filled men brings out the uncontrolled animal instinct, Women and Children should just not do anything to purposely escalate anything..

Since it was at a club, im thinking he was sippin on some'm and saw someone up on his wife or his wife up on someone, jealousy kicked in (because Will smith isn't exactly the most attractive dude).. and things went south from there..

Thats how it's playing out in my head at least.

Either way, unless she knocked him up side the head with something, threatened to shoot him, stab him etc, he shouldn't have put his hands thats attached to 282+ lbs of body mass on any women, even thought it didn't seem she was hit, he pulled her hair, it''s wrong.

Purple drank?

UK_WhoDat 11-27-2010 02:15 PM

Terrible, terrible. Whichever way we look at it.

And it was only during the game chat room that many were admiring Will Smith for his play and his misses for her looks.

TinyK85 11-27-2010 02:54 PM

wow...
 
smh...i would love to hear both sings of the equation. this is one of those times where i wish i was an attorney.

Danno 11-27-2010 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 265316)
There's no excuse to hit a women

Yes there is.

Halo 11-27-2010 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 504state (Post 265314)
How can someone MAKE someone do something like that. He has control of his actions whatever he did or didnt do he did or didnt do on his own. The statement that a woman can make a man hit her is one of the most backwoods, unintelligent things I have ever heard.

When did I make a "statement that a woman can make a man hit her"??

I asked if anyone knew what happened to make him go bizzerk. She may have done nothing but Will Smith isn't known for just beating his wife up, unless I'm wrong.

jnormand 11-27-2010 03:18 PM

Ok, some of you know what I do so I'll chime in on this one....

First: The police witnessed the two arguing. Then they saw it "escalate" and they saw him grab her by the hair and drag her.

Now, I don't know Louisiana state law, but I know Idaho law and most states have similar domestic abuse laws. In some states, police don't have to witness a battery (especially domestic battery) actually occur to make and arrest. They just have to have enough evidence to show cause for an arrest. As someone suggested earlier, police cannot arrest someone on a charge of domestic battery (or any other charge) if they don't have the evidence to show that a crime occurred and the suspect is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I find it hard to believe that there is any state or local agency that would advocate the arrest of an individual after a "non-violent family fight" or "arguement". That is against the U.S. Constitution. What they can do is have one party leave or "suggest" that one party leave to let things cool down.

In Idaho (again not sure about Louisiana), the victim of domestic abuse does not have to press charges on the suspect. If the police have enough evidence to show that the suspect did indeed commit the crime, they can arrest and the state charges the suspect. This is because of the "battered wife syndrome" as some call it, in which the victim is too afraid of retalitation to actually press charges.

Bottom line is this: From what I read on NFL.com, the police witnessed the battery occur. Which probably means they arrested Will for a crime that they witnessed occur. This means, the charges may or may not have been pressed by Will's wife and it also means that he will not get a plea bargain or deal. The fact the officers witnessed it makes it that much stronger of a case.

CheramieIII 11-27-2010 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 504state (Post 265314)
How can someone MAKE someone do something like that. He has control of his actions whatever he did or didnt do he did or didnt do on his own. The statement that a woman can make a man hit her is one of the most backwoods, unintelligent things I have ever heard.

Ditto 504. I just don't see the logic around getting physical with a girl and in Halo's defense I think he meant he just wanted to know what she did or said to make him that angry? Maybe it was the Dixie

jnormand 11-27-2010 03:23 PM

I'm not trying to get into a big hoopla with anyone...just wanted to let everyone know what I gathered from the report on NFL.com and what the legal situation might be.

504state 11-27-2010 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 265354)
Ditto 504. I just don't see the logic around getting physical with a girl and in Halo's defense I think he meant he just wanted to know what she did or said to make him that angry? Maybe it was the Dixie

I wasnt talking about Halo in particular, his statement reminded me of hearing people say that.

Halo 11-27-2010 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 265354)
Ditto 504. I just don't see the logic around getting physical with a girl and in Halo's defense I think he meant he just wanted to know what she did or said to make him that angry? Maybe it was the Dixie

There's never a reason to hit a women. I do know there's sometimes two sides to a story and the press is going to jump on the most sensational side. Later we find out there was ANOTHER story but that usually isn't told.

I agree with Jnormand, the cops saw it happen then they know "what happened" ya know.

Halo 11-27-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 504state (Post 265357)
I wasnt talking about Halo in particular, his statement reminded me of hearing people say that.

I understand. I've made that mistake before too. After reading the whole thread the vibe felt like that.

Srgt. Hulka 11-27-2010 03:54 PM

All I know is that Sean Payton will not tollerate this behavior.

504state 11-27-2010 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka (Post 265364)
All I know is that Sean Payton will not tollerate this behavior.

Yes he will. As long as Will doesnt cause problems in the locker room Smith is fine.

spkb25 11-27-2010 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 265316)
There's no excuse to hit a women

And there is equally no excuse for a woman to hit a man

spkb25 11-27-2010 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 265354)
Ditto 504. I just don't see the logic around getting physical with a girl and in Halo's defense I think he meant he just wanted to know what she did or said to make him that angry? Maybe it was the Dixie

Where is the logic in getting physical with anyone?

CheramieIII 11-27-2010 07:43 PM

None really unless your talking about someone who wants to get physical.

ClintSaints 11-27-2010 08:10 PM

I wish the NFL would deal with the problem of domestic violence. It just seems like you hear far more domestic abuse stories in the NFL than in other sports. In any case, this one doesn't sound nearly as bad as the Steven Jackson one or the multiple Brandon Marshall stories I've read about. That doesn't excuse it, however, and it's extremely disappointing. Having said that, the Saints probably have the cleanest off-field lives of any NFL team I can think of.

Dasidreidia 11-27-2010 09:46 PM

I agree with what's been said before. There is NO REASON to lay hands on a woman other than to caress her lovingly. I'll take a few shots and leave before I strike a woman. Period.

I hate to see this and I hope things work out.

504state 11-27-2010 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dasidreidia (Post 265425)
I agree with what's been said before. There is NO REASON to lay hands on a woman other than to caress her lovingly. I'll take a few shots and leave before I strike a woman. Period.

I hate to see this and I hope things work out.

I just wish he hadnt gotten caught. If this effects our season I will lay the biatch out myself.

lynwood 11-27-2010 10:49 PM

Olivia Newton John wanted to get physical.

Nothing good can come out of being in a night club at 2am. Bottom Line.

pherein 11-27-2010 11:19 PM

Smith needs a ps3, so he can be up until 4am and doing something productive with his time.

saintsfan601 11-28-2010 01:46 AM

[QUOTE=504state;265432]I just wish he hadnt gotten caught. If this effects our season I will lay the biatch out myself.[/QUOTE


I wish someone would ban you. I'm sick of reading the crap you type.

504state 11-28-2010 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 504state (Post 265432)
I just wish he hadnt gotten caught. If this effects our season I will lay the biatch out myself.[/QUOTE


I wish someone would ban you. I'm sick of reading the crap you type.

Im sick of looking at that big booger you have hanging out of your nose.

CheramieIII 11-28-2010 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 504state (Post 265432)
I just wish he hadnt gotten caught. If this effects our season I will lay the biatch out myself.

That's some funny ****e right there!

lynwood 11-28-2010 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 265437)
Lynn i have to disagree thats about the time of nite i get paid...but for some folks they should be at home by midnite with their angst...

I get what you are saying. You have a reason to be there...work. How many times have we seen these guys go to a club and get busted for a shooting,DWI,a fight,sexual harrassment...granted it isn't everyone but at 2am the odds are greater of that happening.

i mean here we are with a married couple with kids clubbing it up at 2am. My odds are on something going bad.

SaintPauly 11-28-2010 09:59 AM

Anyone here ever wake up to a woman, sitting on your chest, with a butcher knife on your throat? I did. My ex was on anti-depressants, and drinking all day long, plus any other drug she could find. Her moods switched, and swung, on an hourly basis. I was walking in the door one time, and she came out of my blind spot, and hit me in the stomach with a baseball bat. Threw a cordless phone at me, and busted my head open. Got mad at me at a NIN concert, and started punching me in the face, right in front of security. Threw one of my electric guitars at me. Stabbed me with a ball point pen, and tried to choke me with a phone line. I grew up in the south, and had this misplaced obligation, to stay married, because that's the way I was raised to be. Took me ten years to finally "leave". Never punched her in these situations, but hands were laid out to restrain her. When it comes to marriages, or relationships, you NEVER know the whole story, so it's best to stay out of it.

pherein 11-28-2010 10:25 AM

Dude, eHarmony they have 29 DIMENSIONS of compatibility............j/k

Your right Saintpaul25. I work as advance life support for kerr ambulance for 4 years, domestic violence is rampant and almost always involves 2 parties. Little over 1/2 of my calls we domestic stabbings, shootings,etc..
and the story usually isn't as simple as it appeared at the time. Better to wait until its explained to us.

CheramieIII 11-28-2010 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 265489)
Anyone here ever wake up to a woman, sitting on your chest, with a butcher knife on your throat? I did. My ex was on anti-depressants, and drinking all day long, plus any other drug she could find. Her moods switched, and swung, on an hourly basis. I was walking in the door one time, and she came out of my blind spot, and hit me in the stomach with a baseball bat. Threw a cordless phone at me, and busted my head open. Got mad at me at a NIN concert, and started punching me in the face, right in front of security. Threw one of my electric guitars at me. Stabbed me with a ball point pen, and tried to choke me with a phone line. I grew up in the south, and had this misplaced obligation, to stay married, because that's the way I was raised to be. Took me ten years to finally "leave". Never punched her in these situations, but hands were laid out to restrain her. When it comes to marriages, or relationships, you NEVER know the whole story, so it's best to stay out of it.

Damn SP and your new girl is a 49ers fan. Your a gluten for punishment

spkb25 11-28-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 265492)
Damn SP and your new girl is a 49ers fan. Your a gluten for punishment

LMMFAO!!!! Classic

spkb25 11-28-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 265489)
Anyone here ever wake up to a woman, sitting on your chest, with a butcher knife on your throat? I did. My ex was on anti-depressants, and drinking all day long, plus any other drug she could find. Her moods switched, and swung, on an hourly basis. I was walking in the door one time, and she came out of my blind spot, and hit me in the stomach with a baseball bat. Threw a cordless phone at me, and busted my head open. Got mad at me at a NIN concert, and started punching me in the face, right in front of security. Threw one of my electric guitars at me. Stabbed me with a ball point pen, and tried to choke me with a phone line. I grew up in the south, and had this misplaced obligation, to stay married, because that's the way I was raised to be. Took me ten years to finally "leave". Never punched her in these situations, but hands were laid out to restrain her. When it comes to marriages, or relationships, you NEVER know the whole story, so it's best to stay out of it.

Good God boss. Glad you're out of it now!

SaintPauly 11-28-2010 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 265492)
Damn SP and your new girl is a 49ers fan. Your a gluten for punishment

Uhhh, that's my sister bro.... :) You didn't know that though.

SaintPauly 11-28-2010 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 265509)
Good God boss. Glad you're out of it now!

Yeah, me too. Although since we got divorced, she has been sober for 10 years, and is a drug and alcohol abuse counselor. So sometimes break ups ARE a good thing. She's doing very well for herself.

504state 11-28-2010 03:47 PM

lol

st thomas 11-28-2010 04:07 PM

if that boogers wet, thats a 15 yarder. lol

CheramieIII 11-28-2010 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 265518)
Uhhh, that's my sister bro.... :) You didn't know that though.

Sorry dude but it was just too good to pass up. Glad your out of that mess and tell your sister it's OK to be a 49ers fan for the games they don't play the Saints.

504state 11-28-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 504state (Post 265432)
I just wish he hadnt gotten caught. If this effects our season I will lay the biatch out myself.[/QUOTE


I wish someone would ban you. I'm sick of reading the crap you type.

Im sick of looking at that big booger you have hanging out of your nose.

http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/...r6287_1gif.jpg

jeanpierre 11-28-2010 09:55 PM

I thought made Will MIB Smith had put the beat down on Jada Pinkett and her overrated self...

But i realize now that it was too good to be true that the Saints Will Smith had finally turned a corner...

Guess what we will be doing in FA and upcoming draft?!?

jeanpierre 11-28-2010 09:58 PM

Gotta Love Wikipedia; it's like the Jedi Archives...


Already updated to reflect the arrest...

SaintPauly 11-28-2010 10:18 PM

Gotta love the American "public" justice system... Guilty, until proven innocent... Why don't we just lock him up now, and save the tax dollars huh? ........


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