That play never works

papz · 12-06-2010, 01:27 PM

I'm sure all the lineman were instructed to jump as soon as they saw someone move.

“It’s really a no-brainer freeze. We were trying to draw them offside. If they move substantially, then we can react. This happened a few weeks ago. The only difference was it wasn’t just a no-brainer freeze. If we felt there was a clear movement, then the worst thing that could have happened is we move back five yards and kick the field goal. Drew Brees did a great job with the snap count and tried to create the illusion we were going for it, when really we’re just going to let the time run out. I wasn’t going to take a timeout, but I was comfortable backing up five yards from there.”

I just can't believe they fell for it.

vpheughan · 12-06-2010, 09:18 PM

How many times did the exact same thing happen to the Saints in the "Old Days". We had a team beat and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Buddy D made a career of pointing it out!! As someone pointed out how many times were we leading against Joe Montana and the 49ers only to watch him march the length of the field to win it!!!

It is SOOOOOO GOOOOOOOD to SEE IT HAPPEN TO SOMEONE ELSE!!!

CashAndFlash · 12-06-2010, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

How many times did the exact same thing happen to the Saints in the "Old Days". We had a team beat and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Buddy D made a career of pointing it out!! As someone pointed out how many times were we leading against Joe Montana and the 49ers only to watch him march the length of the field to win it!!!

It is SOOOOOO GOOOOOOOD to SEE IT HAPPEN TO SOMEONE ELSE!!!

Maybe that's why Buddy died... he could feel his "bread and butter" was going to slip away///

TopCow · 12-06-2010, 09:37 PM

I'm wondering if lack of confidence in Garrett Hartley -- even for sure bets -- entered into the decision to call this play in the first place.

alleycat_126 · 12-07-2010, 03:40 AM

Originally Posted by TopCow

I'm wondering if lack of confidence in Garrett Hartley -- even for sure bets -- entered into the decision to call this play in the first place.

It did with brees, I don't know if you noticed his lobbying skills before that play, sorta like in the Miami game last year. And I don't think anyone was more pissed with Hartley missing in Atlanta than Brees was. He pretty much did everything to get us that W and Hartley F%&6ed it up. Don't think you will see Hartley get any chances with the game on the line unless it is necessary.

papz · 12-07-2010, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by TopCow

I'm wondering if lack of confidence in Garrett Hartley -- even for sure bets -- entered into the decision to call this play in the first place.

No as he was willing to take the 5 yards and allow Hartley to kick the FG if we couldn't get them to jump.

QBREES9 · 12-06-2010, 10:37 PM

It worked !! Saints win.

Rugby Saint II · 12-07-2010, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

It worked !! Saints win.

Saints win!

Beastmode · 12-06-2010, 11:05 PM

That crap doesn't even work in college. It summed up the Bengals season too, no attention to details. Then to top it off, letting the clock run off 10 seconds before the TO. You might as well just pat the Saints on the back before the kickoff. I'm glad we won but that kinda stuff won't happen if we get back to the playofffs.

alleycat_126 · 12-07-2010, 03:18 AM

The funny part, that makes this play work is the eagerness of Carl Sims # 96 of the Defense ( BTW Thanks Carl!!!). Interesting is the rule though change that has been made here because it is Nicks movement that makes it a penalty. If Nicks doesn't move then Sims isn't guilty and can return to his stance for the appending play or timeout.

Still, Drew is money for the heightened voice snap count and suttle flinch ( Brilliant!!) Also, I dont no if anybody saw it but Drew didn't like the run play that was called. He kill, kill called to the pass and looks like Colston's defender was lifeless and didn't even bump leaving him wide open to finish it.

12-06-2010, 01:27 PM	#1
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,799	I'm sure all the lineman were instructed to jump as soon as they saw someone move. “It’s really a no-brainer freeze. We were trying to draw them offside. If they move substantially, then we can react. This happened a few weeks ago. The only difference was it wasn’t just a no-brainer freeze. If we felt there was a clear movement, then the worst thing that could have happened is we move back five yards and kick the field goal. Drew Brees did a great job with the snap count and tried to create the illusion we were going for it, when really we’re just going to let the time run out. I wasn’t going to take a timeout, but I was comfortable backing up five yards from there.” I just can't believe they fell for it.
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12-06-2010, 09:18 PM	#2
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,563	How many times did the exact same thing happen to the Saints in the "Old Days". We had a team beat and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Buddy D made a career of pointing it out!! As someone pointed out how many times were we leading against Joe Montana and the 49ers only to watch him march the length of the field to win it!!! It is SOOOOOO GOOOOOOOD to SEE IT HAPPEN TO SOMEONE ELSE!!!
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12-06-2010, 09:21 PM	#3
CashAndFlash Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 30 miles from Paradis Posts: 602 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by vpheughan How many times did the exact same thing happen to the Saints in the "Old Days". We had a team beat and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Buddy D made a career of pointing it out!! As someone pointed out how many times were we leading against Joe Montana and the 49ers only to watch him march the length of the field to win it!!! It is SOOOOOO GOOOOOOOD to SEE IT HAPPEN TO SOMEONE ELSE!!! Maybe that's why Buddy died... he could feel his "bread and butter" was going to slip away///

12-06-2010, 09:37 PM	#4
TopCow 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 299	I'm wondering if lack of confidence in Garrett Hartley -- even for sure bets -- entered into the decision to call this play in the first place.
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12-07-2010, 03:40 AM	#5
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Originally Posted by TopCow I'm wondering if lack of confidence in Garrett Hartley -- even for sure bets -- entered into the decision to call this play in the first place. It did with brees, I don't know if you noticed his lobbying skills before that play, sorta like in the Miami game last year. And I don't think anyone was more pissed with Hartley missing in Atlanta than Brees was. He pretty much did everything to get us that W and Hartley F%&6ed it up. Don't think you will see Hartley get any chances with the game on the line unless it is necessary.

12-07-2010, 10:59 AM	#6
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,799	Originally Posted by TopCow I'm wondering if lack of confidence in Garrett Hartley -- even for sure bets -- entered into the decision to call this play in the first place. No as he was willing to take the 5 yards and allow Hartley to kick the FG if we couldn't get them to jump.

12-06-2010, 10:37 PM	#7
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	It worked !! Saints win.

12-07-2010, 10:42 AM	#8
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Originally Posted by QBREES9 It worked !! Saints win. Saints win!

12-06-2010, 11:05 PM	#9
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	That crap doesn't even work in college. It summed up the Bengals season too, no attention to details. Then to top it off, letting the clock run off 10 seconds before the TO. You might as well just pat the Saints on the back before the kickoff. I'm glad we won but that kinda stuff won't happen if we get back to the playofffs.
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12-07-2010, 03:18 AM	#10
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	The funny part, that makes this play work is the eagerness of Carl Sims # 96 of the Defense ( BTW Thanks Carl!!!). Interesting is the rule though change that has been made here because it is Nicks movement that makes it a penalty. If Nicks doesn't move then Sims isn't guilty and can return to his stance for the appending play or timeout. Still, Drew is money for the heightened voice snap count and suttle flinch ( Brilliant!!) Also, I dont no if anybody saw it but Drew didn't like the run play that was called. He kill, kill called to the pass and looks like Colston's defender was lifeless and didn't even bump leaving him wide open to finish it.