Roby to IR.
 

Roby to IR, Arrington signed

Its on the Saints official site... I Think it must have been pretty bad.

Sadness! I hope A.A. can fill Roby's shoes.

I think it'll be Moore or Henderson or Meachem to fill Roby's KR shoes. I think AA is simply activated because one of the above may get reduced snaps due to return duty.

I doubt its AA returning kicks, he looked pretty bad in the pre-season.

Put Reggie as the kick returner. Save PT

Damn, I hope he'll be okay long-term; I'm assuming this has to do with the concussion(s)?

Hopefully A.A. can step in and be as good on special teams as Roby was...

Probably not a wise idea...

Danno you still want Reggie gone.

If I wanted him gone I'd want him returning kicks wouldn't I?

He's already too fragile as it is. We'll need him for the playoffs. I don't want to lose him.... yet.

Ok...I laughed. Bad Becky. :p

Link?

Uh-oh, what if Meachem is hurt more than Payton is letting on?

Could AA have been signed because Meachem can't go?

could be

Bush as a kickreturner is not a bad idea at all. The blocking usually is better than on our punt returns. You can never be afraid to use a player in certain situations , too fragile?? You got to be kidding me. Either he is a footballplayer and then he plays where needed, otherwise lets cut him right away.

I'd like to see RB try one game at KR.

Maybe he could do something special with a full head of steam.

Then again, maybe he'd run backwards and out of bounds at the 10...

Hate that for Roby, hope it is just for precautionary sake. Roby's health is more important. As for Bush, offer me what they offered him and I'll run whatever football which ever direction you want me to!

Reggie as a KR is a dumb move if it does happen.. sorry, it's a VERY huge risk by someone who has only been able to run forward 2 times since we recovered him late in the season, he hasn't been in many of the games he was active in and when he was active he's too cautious, scary or get body slammed into commission like a mean pitt bull chew toy.

I love Reggie but i'd love him more if he had been in games and showing he was in regular season form, the guy simply hasn't been able to beast out and frankly it's a little too late, i think the best use for him is when we are able to put ourselves at least in a 2 or 3 score lead and just put him in random positions to see where we could use him..
Tampa is the best team to experiment him on if we can take a commanding lead, as of right now he's an 6-8 figure paid liability.

He ran one back after Roby got hurt. 32yds.

We have some pretty girls on this site. Would you expect any less from a Saints site?

Courtney Roby, we're gonna miss you brother. Stay cool, keep your head up, and we'll be watching for you in '11. Enjoy the postseason from your sideline view, and make sure our boys stay pumped up.

Julius?

Rumor from the Janitor...

Colston out 2 weeks, minor knee surgery

PT still on the Kick Off returns then

I could easily see Reggie doing kick returns.....my only concern is how well he'll field the kick. He's dangerous in space and it could pay off.

Or not.

Over the last 2 years Reggie averages 5.4 yards per punt return.

That doesn't place him in the top 50 punt returners in the entire NFL.

Another Reggie myth. He sucks as a punt returner too.

What do our other punt returners average? I'm wondering not because I want to defend Reggie but because to be honest I think our blocking on punt returns sucks balls.

Lance averages 10.2, which ranks him 28th in the NFL and nearly double what twinkle toes averages.

Stats: NFL Punt Returners - CBSSports.com


But what do I know, maybe he gets triple teamed on his punt returns too.

There are variables Danno. How many returns for scores between the two? There are tons of variables that we could argue to infinity.

To be honest the pointing out every negative thing you can think of about Reggie stuff smells a lot like the times when everybody would point out everything negative thing they could think of about Aaron Brooks. It isn't an honest assessment of the player or the game.

I personally like the idea of Reggie returning kicks. PT is okay but really lacks the explosiveness. The playoffs started last Monday against Atlanta, no point in holding back now...

Reggie has zero TD's over the last 2 years also. And only 4 total TD's in five years.

Reggie Bush, New Orleans Saints, NFL - CBSSports.com Football

I really don't know how else to evaluate his punt return skills other than return average. To me thats the proof in the pudding. If it was simply a 4 or 5 game average it can certainly be skewed and/or misleading, but we're talking about 5 years worth of stats.

I DO NOT HAVE AN ANTI-BUSH AGENDA, I only want people to put aside the exaggerations and biases and view him for what he really is.

Is there really a justification for averaging 5.3 yards per punt return over two years? How can those stats be skewed?

Didn't he run one back last year against Arizona, or am I smoking crack?

As for me, I don't have any biased views on him at all. I think his salary needs to be reduced, but I also believe he brings a unique problem to teams trying to defend him.

I do think he sometimes costs himself yards trying to break big gains on returns, but my opinion is based more on what I hear people like Drew and Sean say about his skills and what he means to the offense rather than stats.

If you watch the linebacker on the playbook link posted here a day or so ago when Reggie goes in motion, he moves a couple steps in the direction of the motion, otherwise he stays home, but he's looking at Reggie when the ball is snapped. We got a first down and a TD on that play.

Are there other players who might garner this kind of attention? Probably, but if we have one on the roster I don't know who he is. I think this is the kind of thing Sean is talking about when he speaks about what Reggie brings to the table. He hasn't broken many this year but he CAN, and defenses have to account for that.

Yes, he had a punt return last year in the NFC Divisional game.

They aren't having any problems defending him this year

Do you think they're gonna say he's mediocre?

Every RB that's involved in the offensive passing plays gets the exact same attention. Reggie is no different and nothing really special. He's your typical scat back, and garners attention accordingly. In fact there were 3 occasions in the Falcon's game where he went in motion and got ZERO attention.

Common AA show us the Money!!!!

We will just have to agree to disagree on Reggie. I will say that I don't make a habit of assessing what I think the coaches and players say, particularly when they actually say something. I'm not much on second guessing their motives really.

As for whether or not teams make a concerned effort to account for him, well, I believe they do. They say they do. Why shouldn't I believe them?

All those statistical arguments I used to get in to with people about Aaron Brooks didn't change a thing. Those teams averaged nearly 30 points a game, stats be damned.

Reggie is getting paid too much. Most all of us agree on that, but I and most others, as well as other team's defenses if you believe what they say, treat him as something much more than a scat back.

I think teams used to, but watching the games I just don't see it at all anymore.

And judging by an increasiningly diminished role in the offense, I think Payton sees it too.

Payton will find a way to get a match-up for him and he should still have a few wow games left in him, but the exaggerations of triple teams and coaches losing sleep over how to defend Reggie borders on laughable.

A while back the NFL players voted him one of the most over-rated players in the entire league. Thats gotta mean something coming from NFL players.

Reggie Bush - RB, Saints - NFL's Most Overrated Players - Photos - SI.com

I'm with Danno on this. He showed some flashes last year during the regular season and saved his best for the Arizona game.

This year, when he's actually on the field, I've seen nothing special from him. Not on offense or special teams. In fact, in my opinion, he's had more bad plays this year than good plays.
I hope that he's saving something for these playoffs.