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foreverfan 03-06-2011 10:28 AM

Saints Hall of Fame announces All-Time Saints Team
 
Saints Hall of Fame announces All-Time Saints Team

The Saints Hall of Fame selection committee met recently and selected the franchise’s all-time team as the club heads into its 45th year of competition. The committee, currently comprised of 19 prominent members of the local media – representing print, television and radio – chooses a Saints all-time team every five years. The current edition features all eras of Saints history, with 19 of the 29 honorees being named as unanimous selections.

The following is the list of the All-Time Saints team, along with their years of service to the Saints:

OFFENSE
Wide Receiver – Eric Martin* (1985-93)
Wide Receiver – Joe Horn* (2000-06)
Center – John Hill* (1975-84)
Guard – Jim Dombrowski* (1986-96)
Guard – Jahri Evans* (2006-present)
Tackle – Willie Roaf* (1993-2001)
Tackle – Stan Brock* (1980-92)
Tight End – Hoby Brenner* (1981-93)
Quarterback – Drew Brees* (2006-present)
Running Back – Dalton Hilliard* (1986-93)
Running Back – Deuce McAllister (2001-09)
Athlete – Reggie Bush (2006-present)

DEFENSE
Defensive Line – Wayne Martin (1989-99)
Defensive Line – Jim Wilks (1981-93)
Defensive Line – Joe Johnson* (1994-98, 2000-01)
Defensive Line – Will Smith (2004-present)
Linebacker – Sam Mills* (1986-94)
Linebacker – Vaughan Johnson* (1986-93)
Linebacker – Rickey Jackson* (1981-93)
Linebacker – Pat Swilling* (1986-92)
Cornerback – Dave Waymer* (1980-89)
Cornerback – Mike McKenzie (2004-09)
Safety – Tommy Myers (1972-81)
Safety – Sammy Knight (1997-02)

SPECIALISTS
Kicker – Morten Andersen* (1982-94)
Punter – Tommy Barnhardt (1987, 89-94, 99)
Special Teamer – Fred McAfee* (1991-93, 2000-06)
Kick/Punt Returner – Michael Lewis* (2001-06)

COACH
Sean Payton (2006-present)
*-unanimous selection

D_it_up 03-06-2011 10:42 AM

Hard to argue with this list. I'm really glad to see Eric Martin's name up there. He was my favorite on all of those late 80's/early 90's teams. Not fast, not flashy. He just came to work with his game face on every day. Throw the kitchen sink at him, and he would catch it, too.

jeanpierre 03-06-2011 10:55 AM

Wide Receivers > Wrong (Danny Abramowicz, Wes Chandler)

Athlete > WTF, you, yeah you, go line up at athlete?!?

Defensive Line > Wrong (LaRoi Glover, Derland Moore)

Returner > Wrong (Bush has had more success)

foreverfan 03-06-2011 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 288210)
Wide Receivers > Wrong (Danny Abramowicz, Wes Chandler)

Athlete > WTF, you, yeah you, go line up at athlete?!?

Defensive Line > Wrong (LaRoi Glover, Derland Moore)

Returner > Wrong (Bush has had more success)

Wes Chandler? He had 2 decent years before being traded to San Diego.
Abramowicz? Not great. Interesting but not great.

Athlete WTF? Really. I don't think anyone would argue there.

Returner? Bush? LOL. Floydd Turner was better than Bush has been.

DL? Glover & Moore. I guess everybody can't make the list but certainly 2nd team. ;)

Danno 03-06-2011 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 288219)
Returner? Bush? LOL. Floydd Turner was better than Bush has been.

Bush is a terrible punt returner. He ranks near dead last every year. He had a decent season in 2008 with 4 TD's, but his punt return prowess is greatly exxagerated. He's simply not very good at all.

Crusader 03-06-2011 02:13 PM

We'll probably see both Colston and Porter on that list in 5 years. Might have Jenkins, Graham and Nicks also. Vilma is a great LB but I don't know if he'll ever get mentioned among those 4 guys.

I don't have a lot to argue about on that list right now.

RaginCajun83 03-06-2011 10:00 PM

It's impossible to crack the linebacker list with this franchise but Vilma would be 2nd team starter

neugey 03-06-2011 10:10 PM

The decisions are getting harder every 5 years. That is a good sign :-)

RaginCajun83 03-07-2011 09:47 AM

I was young but wasn't Mel Gray just as good or better then Lewis?

saints1234 03-07-2011 06:15 PM

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saints1234 03-07-2011 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saints1234 (Post 288400)
Abramowicz? Not great. Interesting but not great.


are you kinding me Abramowicz was amazing, hard worker never giving up attitude. he deserves to be on that list he was one of the best

Memnoch_TP 03-07-2011 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 288210)

Defensive Line > Wrong (LaRoi Glover, Derland Moore)

Returner > Wrong (Bush has had more success)

Agreed on LaRoi, but Bush a better return man than the Beer man? Naah!


And booyah for my boy Sammy Knight up there!

jeanpierre 03-07-2011 09:39 PM

Well Mel Gray was an excellent returner for the Saints as was Tyrone Hughes; like the Beer Man's Story more than I like the results (he was always awesome in preseason).

But Reggie Bush has 4 PRfTD; Hughes is second...

Michael Lewis has 1PR/3KRfTD; total of four...

So Bush has had as much success in total returns for TD...

Mel Gray avg 13.4yds/R...

Danno 03-07-2011 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 288422)
Well Mel Gray was an excellent returner for the Saints as was Tyrone Hughes; like the Beer Man's Story more than I like the results (he was always awesome in preseason).

But Reggie Bush has 4 PRfTD; Hughes is second...

Michael Lewis has 1PR/3KRfTD; total of four...

So Bush has had as much success in total returns for TD...

Mel Gray avg 13.4yds/R...

Reggie ranks near the bottom of the NFL since he came into the league. He's a terrible punt returner. I'd take Hughes, Gray and Lewis over Bush anyday.

In fact, I'd take Lance Moore over Reggie Bush right now.

jeanpierre 03-07-2011 09:52 PM

Hughes has a total of 5TD's on returns to Bush's 4...

And Bush doesn't get kicked to that often...

Danno 03-07-2011 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 288425)
Hughes has a total of 5TD's on returns to Bush's 4...

And Bush doesn't get kicked to that often...

And when he does, he usually doesn't do very well at all.

3 of Reggies TD's were all in one year, and I think 2 were in the same game.

I posted this from another discussion on the topic.


Quote:

Bush was a really good PR for 1 year, 2008. Every other year he'd rank near dead last in the NFL for PR average.

Remove 2008, and in 4 years he's averaged 6.25 yards (72 Returns for 450 yards) and scored 1 TD. Awful, simply awful.

That ranks dead last in the NFL. Even if you include 2008, he's only averaged 7.8 YPR, which ranks him in the bottom 1/3 of the league.

Even our back-up returner Lance Moore averaged 9 yards per return (38 for 342) over that same span.


Memnoch_TP 03-08-2011 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 288422)
Well Mel Gray was an excellent returner for the Saints as was Tyrone Hughes; like the Beer Man's Story more than I like the results (he was always awesome in preseason).

But Reggie Bush has 4 PRfTD; Hughes is second...

Michael Lewis has 1PR/3KRfTD; total of four...

So Bush has had as much success in total returns for TD...

Mel Gray avg 13.4yds/R...

But, you are only counting the TDs. The Beer Man didn't muff as many catches as Reggie does. I don't ever recall Michael Lewis dropping a kick and getting his leg broken as he scrabbled around trying to get the ball back.

jeanpierre 03-08-2011 08:30 AM

Bush was tackled when the 49'er jumped on him as he was already down; and no flag was thrown...

But we never had much success with the refs when we played the 49'ers...

And TD's are a pretty good indicator of success of returns...

Bush is judged way too harshly and with set up with high expectations...

Is he worth what his salary has called for last season and what he is due this season? No.

But what his drafting and his role has meant to the Saints and this offense is undeniable and underappreciated...

While I loved the Beerman's story, Bush's chapter is not quite finished and guys like Hughes and Mel Gray (which I admit I forgotten though he did leave via FA) were probably more impactful than Lewis...

papz 03-09-2011 02:56 PM

Saints Hall of Fame Announces All-Time Saints Team
 
Payton, Brees, Bush, Evans and Smith selected.


The Saints Hall of Fame selection committee met recently and selected the franchise’s all-time team as the club heads into its 45th year of competition. The committee, currently comprised of 19 prominent members of the local media – representing print, television and radio – chooses a Saints all-time team every five years. The current edition features all eras of Saints history, with 19 of the 29 honorees being named as unanimous selections.

The following is the list of the All-Time Saints team, along with their years of service to the Saints:

OFFENSE

Wide Receiver – Eric Martin* (1985-93)

Wide Receiver – Joe Horn* (2000-06)

Center – John Hill* (1975-84)

Guard – Jim Dombrowski* (1986-96)

Guard – Jahri Evans* (2006-present)

Tackle – Willie Roaf* (1993-2001)

Tackle – Stan Brock* (1980-92)

Tight End – Hoby Brenner* (1981-93)

Quarterback – Drew Brees* (2006-present)

Running Back – Dalton Hilliard* (1986-93)

Running Back – Deuce McAllister (2001-09)

Athlete – Reggie Bush (2006-present)

DEFENSE

Defensive Line – Wayne Martin (1989-99)

Defensive Line – Jim Wilks (1981-93)

Defensive Line – Joe Johnson* (1994-98, 2000-01)

Defensive Line – Will Smith (2004-present)

Linebacker – Sam Mills* (1986-94)

Linebacker – Vaughan Johnson* (1986-93)

Linebacker – Rickey Jackson* (1981-93)

Linebacker – Pat Swilling* (1986-92)

Cornerback – Dave Waymer* (1980-89)

Cornerback – Mike McKenzie (2004-09)

Safety – Tommy Myers (1972-81)

Safety – Sammy Knight (1997-02)

SPECIALISTS

Kicker – Morten Andersen *(1982-94)

Punter – Tommy Barnhardt (1987, 89-94, 99)

Special Teamer – Fred McAfee* (1991-93, 2000-06)

Kick/Punt Returner – Michael Lewis* (2001-06)

COACH

Sean Payton (2006-present)

*-unanimous selection

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Saints Hall of Fame Announces All-Time Saints Team

SapperSaint 03-09-2011 04:02 PM

alot of unanimous votes on there.

My all time favorite Dalton was a * also!

Speedy Ron 03-09-2011 07:57 PM

man i wish we had dalton and deuce in there now, with bush working in

Euphoria 03-10-2011 01:26 PM

Ok this list lost all credibility with Reggie on it!

I was going to say if it didn't have Guido Merkins on it it would suck... but I was wrong it got worse by adding "ATHLETE" WTF is that about.

Go figure anything to do with the Saints and the history of them had to SUCK!

Euphoria 03-10-2011 01:26 PM

This list can't be any gay - er.

Euphoria 03-10-2011 01:34 PM

This list is gay!

Athlete - Reggie Bush.

SO clearly the fag putting it together has a man crush on Reggie right!?!

Had to create a spot just so he could be on the list... what a joke of a roster. No credibility what so ever.

Danno 03-10-2011 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 288861)
This list is gay!

Athlete - Reggie Bush.

SO clearly the fag putting it together has a man crush on Reggie right!?!

Had to create a spot just so he could be on the list... what a joke of a roster. No credibility what so ever.

I was gonna say the same thing, but someone may get the impression that I'm not a big Reggie Bush fan.;)

BIGEASY504 03-10-2011 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 288220)
Bush is a terrible punt returner. He ranks near dead last every year. He had a decent season in 2008 with 4 TD's, but his punt return prowess is greatly exxagerated. He's simply not very good at all.

This could be the entire ST not just Bush exaggerated prowess

Danno 03-10-2011 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGEASY504 (Post 288866)
This could be the entire ST not just Bush exaggerated prowess

Lance Moore doesn't have the same problems.


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