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Luda34 05-16-2011 04:38 PM

Lance Moore
 
New Orleans Saints Lance Moore still seeks big time payday - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN

Luda34 05-16-2011 04:47 PM

I would rather Lance any day over Reggie. The guy is a great player I want him to stay with the Saint but I hope the guy gets what he deserve.

73Saint 05-16-2011 04:50 PM

Hoping we can hang on to him. I really think he is a big key to our "O"

Rugby Saint II 05-16-2011 04:53 PM

He has been integral in our success. We need to resign him, although that depends on matching the amount of money he can get elsewhere. We may need that money on higher priorities.

alleycat_126 05-16-2011 06:36 PM

I usually go to MSN first, to see what the sports stories of the day are. So im sitting at my cpu bout to snack on my smorgushbourg of chips and cookies, when what do I see but a big ass pick of Lance Moore on MSN. Literally the first words out of my mouth were OH SH#T! Lance, gotta get resigned get little SP jr on the case. My wife says this funny thing about lance. And though not a football junkie, if she sees it and says it, its usually right. Her Lance saying is if he can't catch it, then it ain't meant to be caught. He's proven her right more than not. Man we got to get this guy under contract before teams start talking to him.

alleycat_126 05-16-2011 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 300231)
He has been integral in our success. We need to resign him, although that depends on matching the amount of money he can get elsewhere. We may need that money on higher priorities.

There is no higher priority. Lance is like our Wes Welker dude. You not going to be able to find them hands no where else. Plus he streches the field like a henderson with better hands.

foreverfan 05-16-2011 07:05 PM

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dizzle88 05-16-2011 11:34 PM

Lance needs to be resigned, we can't let him go anywhere. He's our most consistent WR, we can't keep offering him one year tenders all the time and expect him to stay, that being said I'd rather have lance on the team over reggie anyday.

Danno 05-17-2011 07:03 AM

It should be no problem paying him what he's worth. If he wants #1WR money, he can walk, but if he simply wants good #2WR we should be able to sign him easily.

It may end up causing us to lose Devery though.

RaginCajun83 05-17-2011 08:39 AM

Lance is the wife's favorite Saint, I hope they bring him back but I dint blame him wanting more money, he's been low balled the last couple contracts. Let's hope they make a deal since he cathes everything and is Drew's favorite target. I'd take him over Reggie any day

Luda34 05-17-2011 10:10 AM

NEXT TO COLSTON HE'S THE MOST PRODUCTIVE WR WE HAVE.

saintsfan1976 05-17-2011 10:43 AM

Tremendous hands, yes. But he is ALSO the best "route-runner" on this team.

When Payton game-plans for Lance, he always has a huge game. IMO, the guy seems to be the most in sync WR with Drew.

darstep 05-17-2011 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Luda34 (Post 300337)
NEXT TO COLSTON HE'S THE MOST PRODUCTIVE WR WE HAVE.

He's even "Moore" productive than Colston when you look at his percentages. I don't know where the numbers can be found, but I can guarantee Moore has more 3rd down conversions, better completion percentage, fewer drops, and touchdown per attempt percentage. Moore is probably Brees favorite target but he's too smart to say it; neither would it be PO-correct to say it. Moore gets the best separation and can get open more effectively than the rest and will make the necessary adjustment to make the catch.
Year after year I've watched them string Lance Moore along: after he lead the team when Colston was out, after the camp torn bicept the SB season, and now a solid #2 without playing every down. He even helped with special teams when Roby went down - much more dependable back there than Reggie. If he ends up unrestricted, we may have to watch him walk. I, for one, would be very disappointed if that happens. If he's still restricted with a 2nd round tender, we need to work a 4 year deal and give him his money...He's earned it. I dread the possibility of us scratching our heads mid-season trying to figure out why certain things aren't working in the offense anymoore. Lance is special in moore ways than one. The front office needs to make this one happen.

st thomas 05-17-2011 12:53 PM

lance stays devery walks or gets traded

Danno 05-17-2011 12:53 PM

This is a great site that ranks players based on numerous categories.

We have 3 in the top 20, Devery is 67th

RECEIVING: Minimum 50 passes, 85 players ranked
Player Team DYAR Rk YAR Rk DVOA Rk VOA Passes Yards EYds TD Catch Rate FUM
1. M.Wallace PIT 457 1 444 1 48.8% 1 47.1% 98 1257 1,279 10 61% 1
2. B.Lloyd DEN 414 2 401 2 20.0% 6 19.0% 152 1448 1,641 11 51% 0
3. G.Jennings GB 330 3 329 3 19.6% 7 19.6% 125 1265 1,317 12 61% 2
4. R.White ATL 294 4 291 6 8.3% 28 8.1% 180 1392 1,577 10 64% 1
5. A.Johnson HOU 284 5 245 11 13.2% 15 9.6% 139 1215 1,314 8 63% 1
6. H.Nicks NYG 276 6 301 4 14.6% 11 17.0% 128 1052 1,233 11 62% 1
7. C.Johnson DET 258 7 242 13 11.2% 20 9.8% 138 1122 1,260 12 57% 1
8. D.Bowe KC 255 8 294 5 11.9% 18 15.6% 133 1162 1,224 15 54% 1
9. K.Britt TEN 252 9 253 8 28.5% 2 28.7% 73 775 869 9 58% 1
10. J.Maclin PHI 251 10 246 10 15.5% 8 14.9% 115 964 1,097 10 61% 1
11. D.Branch NE 246 11 222 15 20.5% 5 17.2% 92 818 969 6 66% 1
12. S.Johnson BUF 236 12 214 18 8.7% 26 6.6% 142 1073 1,250 10 58% 1
13. M.Austin DAL 236 13 245 12 12.2% 17 13.1% 119 1047 1,120 7 58% 1
14. A.Collie IND 231 14 261 7 28.4% 3 33.7% 71 649 799 8 82% 1
15. M.Colston NO 220 15 247 9 8.6% 27 11.2% 132 1023 1,168 7 64% 0 16. D.Mason BAL 216 16 224 14 13.5% 14 14.5% 100 802 989 7 61% 0
17. J.Knox CHI 207 17 201 20 14.7% 9 13.9% 100 964 904 5 51% 1
18. L.Moore NO 205 18 218 17 14.6% 10 16.3% 94 763 914 8 70% 1
19. R.Meachem NO 187 19 190 21 22.7% 4 23.3% 66 638 708 5 67% 0

20. M.Manningham NYG 187 20 213 19 12.4% 16 15.9% 92 944 883 9 65% 1

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | WIDE RECEIVERS 2010

alleycat_126 05-18-2011 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 300254)

if you could give him a 9 jersey while he's drinking the beer you woulda had me at hello like Jerry Mcguire!!!!

alleycat_126 05-18-2011 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by darstep (Post 300361)
He's even "Moore" productive than Colston when you look at his percentages. I don't know where the numbers can be found, but I can guarantee Moore has more 3rd down conversions, better completion percentage, fewer drops, and touchdown per attempt percentage. Moore is probably Brees favorite target but he's too smart to say it; neither would it be PO-correct to say it. Moore gets the best separation and can get open more effectively than the rest and will make the necessary adjustment to make the catch.
Year after year I've watched them string Lance Moore along: after he lead the team when Colston was out, after the camp torn bicept the SB season, and now a solid #2 without playing every down. He even helped with special teams when Roby went down - much more dependable back there than Reggie. If he ends up unrestricted, we may have to watch him walk. I, for one, would be very disappointed if that happens. If he's still restricted with a 2nd round tender, we need to work a 4 year deal and give him his money...He's earned it. I dread the possibility of us scratching our heads mid-season trying to figure out why certain things aren't working in the offense anymoore. Lance is special in moore ways than one. The front office needs to make this one happen.

Couldn't have worded it better if I tried.

He has earned his contract, Period. Every other reciever has had some type issue dropping balls except Lance. I went to the scrimmage just before the start of training camp here in Houston before the 09 season. You woulda thought Brees and Lance were 10 and 11 in age because team practice ends, then organized scrimmage ends. Then Drew and Lance still out there working. It's no way they don't get a big time deal done. Certain people can be replaced and then certain people you just have to admit that they are not easily replaceable.

NOS2SB 05-18-2011 07:38 AM

I agree dizzle. Last year who did Brees look to when he needed a play? Moore. Moore is consistent and hardly ever drops a ball. It's going to be hard with as many free agents that we have and only so much money to go around.

foreverfan 05-18-2011 10:07 AM

You can't coach great hands and there is no doubt that Moore has great hands.

You can coach bad hands to decent. You can coach decent hands to pretty good. But you can't coach good hands to great hands.

This is because you have to have special coordination between the feet, body, arms, eyes and cat like depth preception. Only God can coach that. I'm sure Lance has been catching the ball like that since he was 10.

It's kind of like some of us can be taught to sing fairly good but how many can you coach up to be great?

The great ones make it looks simple. You either have it or you don't.


SmashMouth 05-18-2011 01:59 PM

Sign the man and give him his money!

st thomas 05-18-2011 02:20 PM

hes a piece to our puzzle. its time, give him his sugar loomis.

SmashMouth 05-18-2011 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 300512)
You can't coach great hands and there is no doubt that Moore has great hands.

You can coach bad hands to decent. You can coach decent hands to pretty good. But you can't coach good hands to great hands.

This is because you have to have special coordination between the feet, body, arms, eyes and cat like depth preception. Only God can coach that. I'm sure Lance has been catching the ball like that since he was 10.

Precisely why you never made it, FF!!! LOL .... kidding.

foreverfan 05-18-2011 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 300591)
Precisely why you never made it, FF!!! LOL .... kidding.

Kidding... no you're not. You stunk worse than me. TRUE STORY! LOL

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QBREES9 05-18-2011 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 300226)
Let him and Reggie duke it out ..last man standing gets the money...lol

Lance Moore WINS !!!

Danno 05-19-2011 07:13 AM

Lance, Nicks, Harper, Henderson, Gay, Evans, Goodwin, D. Thomas, Shanle, Roby, Hargrove, Torrence, Strief, Young, Bushrod, Charleston, Ayodele, Mitchell, Dunbar, Hartley will all need new deals either in 2011 or 2012.

And oh yeah, we have this QB we'll have to give a pretty big contract to soon.

So we can't just give Lance Moore a blank check.

Pay him what he's worth, but lets not get carried away.

Maverick2299 05-19-2011 09:29 AM

Gay may get cut, with Robinson and rookie Patrick there. If bush stays Roby will be gone, Hartley already got signed to a deal before lockout.
Nicks, Lance, Harper are the main priority's. Everyone else I would love to have but it all depends on the contracts for the three big guys.

papz 05-19-2011 10:40 AM

Hopefully he ask for something like 20 for 4 years... and counter with 12 for 4(which is Devery Henderson money). Meet in the middle at 16 for 4 amd call it a day. If he's looking for Berrian type money, he can walk or do some sort of sign and trade if possible. I want him to get paid... but not 1 money because he's not that. As effective as he is and being Drew's safety blanket, Colston demanding extra attention plays a big part on the success of our other receivers.

st thomas 05-19-2011 10:57 AM

hope loomis has majority of these contracts lined up and ready to start hammering out fine tuning them when this thing is ended. looking how many contracts have to be reworked he has his late nights coming. and when boss gets back from having tea with the pope he needs to get his ink pen out.


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