You have to dance with who brung you. :o

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PROOF ABOUT SHANLE
 

I think we knew that already...

And I hope the Saints improve as a team every year and win the SB. Part of improving as a team is getting better through the draft and free agency. It's not hate to want your favorite team to improve itself by getting a more talented player at any position.

And yes, I'm sure the coaches know a bit more about Shanle than I do. But despite your condescending statement, believe it or not, they get it wrong sometimes...like trading up to draft Antonio Pittman in 2009.

That top 10 defense you are so proud of was ranked 16th in yards allowed per game. 13 teams were worse than the Saints (16 better) at yards per carry allowed. In the Seattle playoff game, they allowed a 6.3 YPC average and 150 yards total.

So go ahead and let your mind be boggled by the "hate" you see for Shanle here. I would rather have seen the team go a different direction than to rely on a returning 9 year vet to make an impact.

Yep, you're about 4 hours too late with the proof...

Speaking of condescension....:rolleyes:

BTW, the Saints had the fourth overall defense last year. Not the 16th.

But hey, since you're such a defensive expert as compared to say, Gregg Williams, I'll take your judgement over his. :lol:

@AdamSchefterAdam Schefter


Saints reach agreement with LB Scott Shanle on a two-year, $4 million deal.

IMHO, $2mm too much.

Actually they were 16th in rushing yards allowed per game, just like SAINT_MICHAEL said

Actually, that's not what he said.....Even if he had said that (which he didnt) being 16th in rushing allowed is not exactly terrible and certainly not a condemnation of one individual player on an 11-man unit. It's pure stupidity to scapegoat Shanle for any shortcomings the Saints defense may have.

as much as i dont like shanle, he was a backup i wouldnt mind havin him 3-5 games at the most

No, in the rushing stats I was posting about they were not fourth:

From NFL.com - Official Site of the National Football League for the 2010 season the saints gave up 112.3 YPG. That is 16th, not 4th. Fourth was San Diego at 93.8 YPG

You didn't say anything about rushing stats.

The word "rushing" is not in this sentence, and regardless, the fact that the defense was 4th overall is far more important than the fact that it was 16th in rushing.

Throwing Shanle out because the defense was not great against the run is akin to cutting PT and Ivory because our offensive run game sucked last year.

Should have read further

yards per carry = rushing

Those two things could exist independently of each other. If you're going to go around using these kind of facts to bash people, at least word them correctly.

Regardless, I will stick to my supposition. Blaming Shanle for the team being 16th in rushing defense is retarded. I don't see anybody throwing Vilma or Clark/Dunbar under the bus.

I'm not "bashing" anyone, I just understood what he was saying and apparently you didn't. No big deal; Shanle is resigned regardless who likes it or not, and more than likely has the starting spot until somebody can take it from him...

Didn't mean "you" personally, I meant the universal "you".

Bet we got him cheap.

Its freakin true!!!! It came outta Shawn Peyton's mouth and Jonathan Vilmas


How can you get re - upped when you absolutely blew it time and again at the OLB starter position! He was exposed, He exposed us, and he gets a new deal!!!! I don't understand

Sorry you were not catching I was talking about rushing D as some others could. Since you seem to like to jump on others, I'll try to be more specific.

It's pretty simple. This thread is about Shanle.
No one is on Dunbar etc. because the thread isn't about them.

thats the scary thing...no one has beaten him out yet

this my friends, is what i like to call the thread police....

Maybe that's because, in the eyes of the coaches, Shane actually brings something worthwhile to the table as a player.

And you'll have to forgive me for thinking they know just a tiny bit more about the subject than anybody talking crap on a message board, myself included.

Hell, I don't even like Shanle that much but you people are gone off the deep end here.

Must be nice to be young and know everything. :rolleyes:

Shanle is better than average. His fault is his lack of speed in coverage but to be fair to him he has a few tough TE's to cover. The lack of a pass rush just magnifies his lack of coverage. If the front 4 can start to apply pressure Shanle can be an above average LB.

it is. but since you know so much....englighten me of shanle's endless pool of supposed talent. In your argument, explain to me how he is NOT our worst LB and the fact that he started last year because Casillas got hurt is not a valid point.

we would be better off putting a shoe out there...the TE might trip on it.

This quote never gets old, Ron. I love hearing it.

A. Please show me where I said anything about his "endless pool of supposed talent." All I said is that he is decent and underdeserving of all the crap that people like you continually sling at him.

B. I didn't say he wasn't our worst LB although that is a very debatable point. For the sake of argument, let's say he is....that doesn't mean he's deserving of the ridiculous stuff many here are saying about him. Considering the Saints defense ranked 4th last year with Shanle out there playing the bulk of the snaps, he can't be half as bad as you are saying.

C. He was scheduled to start last year on the strong side anyway. Casillas or Dunbar or my grandmother could've won the weak side job and Shanle still would've been out there on the strong side. Maybe if you actually followed what was going on instead of blindly criticizing you would've been aware of that little fact.

a. you defend him as if we are talking about lawrence taylor
b. your right if he was the worst LB he wouldnt be starting. again...this is the scariest thing.
c. i stand corrected, he was moved to that side. but he still was the worst defensive player on the field at any given time.

but please..tell me what he brings to the table...PLEASE.

Now I lay me down to sleep
I'll sleep well because Shanle is ours to keep
Should he get beat out in training camp
I will not shout nor throw a temper tamp
Cause I know in my heart he's not the best
My GOD will this thread please die a horrible death

I'm not going to read 9 pages... so I'll just assume that we re-signed Shanle, to which I greet with a hearty "BOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!"

Loomis Resigns Shanle.

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Shanle I can deal with. With Canton back, when the kitten is done with the gun, pass it over here FF.

I haven't decided how I feel about this yet.

I'm still wondering who Shawn Peyton is...but, no matter, because today is....

I am mortified by this. I find it shocking! How could you formulate a PRAYER focusing on Shanle! That is blasphemous and reprehensible.

The only Saint Defender that gets prayers is Sammy Knight, beyatch...

Our Safety, who art in Nawlins
Sammy be thy name
Your thunder comes
Your pick be done
Against Tampa
As it was against Green Bay

Amen.


We still love ya, #29!

Let's Go To The Mall, Today!



A solid front four would really help ole Scott out BTW.

I figure with a name like "Memnoch" you'd be the last person to be offended.

:flame:

Yep! If Shanle doesn't get beat out, then we know what we are working with. Shanle's only real downside is speed. He's just slow. Good heart and good technique...when he gets there. I'm OK with this one.