Cromartie!!!!!
 

I don't care about Nnamdi, I know better. But I would like us to clear some of the dead weight and make a play on Cromartie now.

I think we have great corners, but we get picked on because of our height. You saw it in Cinnci, and in Seattle. Were also injury prone so we can never have enough.

Cromartie although a handful went threw the fire in New York with teams throwing away from Revis and he's a ball hawk take a stab.

We havn't the money for this. IMO we are not as deep at our CB position as most people think, but I don't think we go after Cromartie.

Didn't we have this conversation the other night?

Nnamdi will sign somewhere for an outrageous amount, which in turn will make Cromartie get slightly less outrageous amount.

No way we can afford him...

I think CB we are fine.... We have depth. Porter, Greer, Robinson, Patrick, Torrance. Not to mention who ever else we get that's undrafted.

I would like to have Cromartie too, but its just not a area of need.

My biggest concern with them has always been that they are ALL 5' 11".
Not that they can't cover, it just looks like they are mugging a 6' 3" guy when the ball is thrown up for grabs. If a receiver has any hollywood skills at all, he could pick up cheap 1st downs/1st and goals on principle alone. Hard to find - I know. That's why we don't have a 6' 3" cover guy that can turn their hips and run like the wind. I'm not hard to please: I just want ONE. That's all, just ONE, a cheap ONE.

damn't. you a-hole. i thought this was a "we signed cromartie" thread. :(

Revis is only 5'11 and is the best cover corner in the league. I know porter gets hurt alot, but Robinson is in the wings as is Patrick. Torrance is a good back up as well (had a key pick in the Steelers game) . We have depth, the only thing to do is straight up and replace him, which the saints are not going to do.

CROMARTIE IS 6, 2 you tell me who we have that is that! Depth is fine if you are getting to the qb, we didn't in the last part of last year. And we were exposed for being to damn short at the back end. It's not that they can't make those plays I expect that we would get someone to assist on some of the taller wide outs thats all.

THIS YEAR MIGHT BE FAR WORSE THAN OTHERS

GREG JENNINGS
CALVIN JOHNSON
ANDRE JOHNSON
MIKE - SIMMS WALKER ( signed with the rams )

AND THATS BEFORE YOU GET TO RODDY "PUSH OFF" WHITE AND THE PREDATOR JULIO JONES

MIKE WILLIAMS you need me to keep going!!!

Did you see Porter and Greer vs Ocho and T.O. it looked like to grown men vs two midgets we are gonna get roasted if we don't get a little taller on that back end!!!

Revis is only 5'11!!!!!! The best CB in the game today.

Tall does NOT make you good. Cromarte got picked on all last year on the jets, yes he is good, but he is no better the Greer. There is a reason the jets tried to get another CB....and it was not because of money.

Now
Antoine Winfield (5'9)
Brent Grimes (5'10)
Johnathan Joseph (5'11)
Asante Samuel (5'10)
Terence Newman (5'10)
Mike Jenkins (5'10)
Ronde Barber (5'9)
Cortland Finnegan (5'10)
Marcus Trufant (5'11)

The list goes on

Go do your Homework.

We have four corners, five if you count jenkins. There are 25 starting positions counting the kickers and long snapper. We can't fill the entire 53 man roster with corners!!

Three positions you need plenty of depth:

Cornerback

Defensive Tackle

Running Back

got to keep 'em fresh

It is because Nmandi is better not because cromartie didn't handle his business.



Here's how I do my homework, these are the only numbers that count



the first two number are games played and games started!!!!

2010 New York Jets 15 15 42 41 1 0.0 -- 17 3 75 25.0 66 0 0

2009 San Diego Chargers 16 16 33 31 2 0.0 -- 10 3 17 5.7 16 0 0

2008 San Diego Chargers 16 15 64 60 4 0.0 0 9 2 66 33.0 52T 1 0

Greer is not Cromartie!! Cromartie doesn't miss games!!!! And even you can admit the greer got picked on a whole hellva lot. NO HEIGHT ISN'T EVERYTHING BUT HE'S PRETTY FAST TOO!!!!! Funny thing about this is if we did sign him Greer would move to slot corner so fast it would make your teeth chatter!!!

Doesn't matter who you have in the secondary, if you can't apply a pass rush a receiver will get open. Fix the pass rush (which I think will be done with Rogers) and the defense is set. Rogers should occupy 2 linemen to allow someone to get to the QB.

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While some CB's will give you a second or two more coverage, that difference typically equates to big money. That same money applied to the front end of the defense will yield better results.

Gimme the best pash rush in the NFL and you can win with two Jason freakin' Davids playing CB.

Conversely if you have the worst pass rush in the NFL, you'll lose even with an Asamugha and Revis at CB, IMO

any addition like Crow would be a good one. The man has skillz!

2010 New York Jets 15 15 42 41 1 0.0 -- 17 3 75 25.0 66 0 0

2009 San Diego Chargers 16 16 33 31 2 0.0 -- 10 3 17 5.7 16 0 0

2010 Saints 14 13 61 54 7 0.0 -- 12 2 50 25.0 26 1 0

2009 9 8 44 41 3 0.0 -- 13 2 59 29.5 48 1 0

Yes Cromartie plays more games. Greer's stats are very closer to Cromartie and he did not even start as many. You original argument was that we need height because our guys get picked on when the average height for CB is below 6'0.

I do agree he does get hurt alot, but don't say Greer is not as good or height is a factor.

I gotta agree on the pash rush comment. If you give the QB all day to throw the ball, eventually SOMEONE is going to get open. That, IMO, is how we created so many turnovers our superbowl year. Get to the QB, and the rest is gravy.

I seem to remember Revis getting scorched by Randy Moss, for a touchdown last season. He came up limping after the score, but was running full bore, before that. I don't care if you guys flame me or not, but I feel that Revis is considerably over rated.....

We got the guy at the right price, I do agree gotta have a pass rush. Not having one in the Seattle game is proof of that.

YOU MUST BE 5'11. NAPOLEON COMPLEX HUH!!!

You can't sit there and tell me that you wouldn't take Cromartie over Greer!!!
HEIGHT INCLUDED!!!



Why do people think when a player puts on that black and gold that it cures all there ills. Don't get me wrong Greer is outstanding when we have pressure on. But he gets picked on, and not because Porter is 10 times better Porter is getting picked on more as well.

Yes, we can get taller on the back end if it is out there to be had. I never said that the corners we had aren't any good, READ THE POST!!! Cromartie can play, period. He just so happens to be 6,2 fast, and durable!! DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER CORNERS LIKE THAT!!

NO IT'S NOT NECESSARY!! BUT IN SOME CASES IT HELPS!!!

actually i'm 6'1.
Yes i would not take Cromartie over Greer, he is going to demand to much money.

If we are going to have to pay someone, go after Nnamdi Asomugha.

If Cromartie came under the same contract sure I would take him, but he is going to demand a big contract.

I believe there are bigger areas of need on this team that money needs to go to.

Your right that we dont have any CB that are over 5'11 (but height does not matter). Yes Cromartie can play but that's not because of his height.

Harper is 6'1 and Jenkins is 6'0 so we do have height in the backfield.

But I can play the game of you would you take over who, there are alot of players on the saints that can be upgraded. But money is an issue.