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jeanpierre 08-03-2011 10:26 PM

Olin Kreutz
 
Wonder who he plans to visit and give the contender discount?

RaginCajun83 08-03-2011 10:37 PM

Did a little looking and all I saw was that John Clayton said he is considering retirement if no contender makes an offer to him IMO give it a day and the Eagles will sign him

jcp026 08-03-2011 10:39 PM

I'd be all for it, but, like most of the big name free agents, he'll end up with the Eagles.

jeanpierre 08-04-2011 06:29 AM

Kreutz looks like he wants a contender and 4 mil per annum...

Ravens, and maybe the Saints, would be in play, but he'll have to rethink the 4 million part...

But alot of people could play Center between Nicks and Evans and make the ProBowl...

Luda34 08-04-2011 06:31 AM

How can we afford him and we couldn't pay Goodwin. How much was Goodwin asking for.

FinSaint 08-04-2011 06:46 AM

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Adam Schefter

49ers reached agreement with center Jonathan Goodwin on a 3-year, $10.9 million deal, including $4 million guaranteed.
I don't know how much Kreutz wanted from da Bears, but I guess he might be willing to go for a 1-year deal to improve his stock and have a shot at the ring... and maybe even with a slight discount.

But if Tennant is performing in the camp as good as the more positive reports are claiming he is - then the more gap friendly and the more future-minded decision would be to let him play. At least he'll have all those veterans and pro bowlers around him.

Crusader 08-04-2011 06:50 AM

Sounds like a plan FinSaint. Might be better to go with the youth. I'm a little worried about the depth behind him thou.

FinSaint 08-04-2011 07:15 AM

Well, as discussed earlier... we do have two other centers on the roster at the moment even though they are more camp bodies than anything else: Cecil Newton and Ryan Taylor.

As for their talent level or overall abilities goes... who knows? At least Jeff Duncan of the TP mentioned Ryan Taylor as someone who could play both center and guard in his report of the UD rookies. Like you mentioned Crusader, not much depth or talent at center it seems.

And just to add... as far as I know the plan was all along to go with Tennant a year from now, so if Goodwin wasn't available for a 1 year deal - as he surely wasn't - then I don't see this as a serious loss for the team's roster. He'll probably pick up the "game" faster as it is when put in real-life situations as to him watching Goodwin from the sidelines.

poydras 08-04-2011 07:23 AM

This is where the "no practice in pads" rule is going to hurt the Saints. How are we going to get our rookies up to speed by the start of the season? It's like learning how to ride a bike by reading instructions in a book.

Maverick2299 08-04-2011 07:32 AM

He might want to sign for less to be with the saints....but I doubt it, I think he just wants money.

FinSaint 08-04-2011 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by poydras (Post 315434)
This is where the "no practice in pads" rule is going to hurt the Saints. How are we going to get our rookies up to speed by the start of the season? It's like learning how to ride a bike by reading instructions in a book.

I was under the impression that they'll work with pads on today when the signed veterans join the practices? Not sure though...

Anyway, as for Tennant, his reps aren't going to go down with the introduction of the vets like with most other less experienced players since he is the No 1 center on the roster. And, furthermore, It'll surely help him to go against the "big dogs" not that SR isn't a whale of a man.


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As a further side note from the TP comments section,

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Saints would love for Tennant to take the job, and undrafted rookie Ryan Taylor take the backup C/G job. Both of those salaries together would be less than 1 mil. It would free up much needed cap room to go after other bargain veterans and help us to have the money to keep Brees, Nicks, Colston and Porter, who are all in contract years.

Posted by woodruff54 on "Center Matt Tennant makes the most of his stint as a New Orleans Saints starter" on August 03, 2011, 8:45AM
Saving money is never a bad thing, right?

poydras 08-04-2011 07:41 AM

Actually, the rules allow pads in pracice, but a very limited number of times for the entire season and the fines for infractions are in the 6 digit range.

FinSaint 08-04-2011 07:45 AM

OK. Well I think that the key thing for Tennant to improve on would be his timing with Brees and any line change duties that Goodwin had, neither of which really need pads to work on.

hagan714 08-04-2011 08:12 AM

he is a bit long in the tooth but he just keeps chugging along. 129th consecutive starts

alexonfyre 08-04-2011 09:01 AM

To me the question is, if we have money to spend on a big name free agent, would we rather spend it on Kreutz to replace Tennant (who may not even need to be replaced) or go after Lofa Tatupu to replace Scott Shanle?

jeanpierre 08-04-2011 09:35 PM

Well...if he's coming in for a visit...

jeanpierre 08-04-2011 09:50 PM

...he's only going to visit if there's a starting opportunity...

jeanpierre 08-04-2011 10:11 PM

Kreutz would likely sign a one year deal; this would allow Tennant time to develop and provide a great insurance plan on this season and the investments (FA Signings) made for this season...

lumm0x 08-04-2011 10:26 PM

Good veteran presence if it's a 1 year mentality. I agree, we still need to upgrade that OLB position.

WhoDat!656 08-04-2011 10:26 PM

Olin Kreutz to visit the Saints | ProFootballTalk

jeanpierre 08-04-2011 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lumm0x (Post 315734)
Good veteran presence if it's a 1 year mentality. I agree, we still need to upgrade that OLB position.

Payton & Co may have done just that in the 3rd round of this year's draft...

homerj07 08-08-2011 05:23 PM

Boo-Ya! We got him!


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