Kreutz visted Saints today....
 

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RT @BradBiggs: Just sent a story into Tribune. Former #Bears center Olin Kreutz visited #Saints today. Also drawing interest from #Ravens

Hopefully he would take less than the 4M/1y which he turned down from da Bears. Also if Ravens are the other suitor, they have only $ 3,558,000 left in the cap according to the cap thread, so they couldn't match that 4M without dumping some salaries.

Tennant would probably learn a lot from such a great veteran as Kreutz.

One of the best of the modern era... future HOF'er.

Would we even offer him a 4mil/1 yr deal?

Will somebody pull the trigger on this already.

I think we're a better team than the Ravens and hopefully he'll factor that into his decision. Outstanding player.

Plus he gets to face his old team in week 2. Sign him up.

Pull... Trigger... NOW!

I think he will sign soon...

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what a signing it would be i'm sure were trying no#'s right now multi yeared guarantie

Lets get it done!

This would be awesome!

Cool sign him

Let the young guy have a shot. The Saints can get a serviceable veteran center if they have too. Stinchcomb could probably slide inside if need be.

I can see the validity of both alternatives. Tennant might be ready for the job, but there's always the danger of rushing him in and in the process destroying his self-confidence and ultimately risking losing the promising young man. I mean Goodwin waited two years behind Faine before stepping up, so it might be wise to stick to that formula since it worked out pretty nice last time. Signing Kreutz to a 1-year deal would give Tennant another year to learn from a pro, and who would know more about succeeding in the center position than Kreutz?

In the end SP will make the decision based on what he sees at camp, and he might also talk with Brees about it, but if he doesn't feel Tennant is ready to start then he'll make a move for a FA - and conversely if he decides to go with Tennant it probably means that he is ready to take up the anchor role and we have nothing to worry about.

In SP we trust!

i guess theyre not too impressed with Tennant. i read a quote from tennant and he doesnt seem to have alot of confidence. Kreutz is good but im wondering why Bears would let such a bad @$$ go?

This isn't kindergarten where everyone gets a gold star, even if they paint purple trees. Don't let the young guy have anything. If he earned his shot, and looks like he can handle it, then MAYBE give him a shot if it is also overall beneficial for the team.

Losing out on a potential HoFer for our young center to learn behind a season or so, and losing out on having depth at center... Sounds like the best move for the team would be to sign Kreutz, and if that young man doesn't like it he can take a shot to the mouth and then go sit with the rest of the backups and learn from the best until his number is called.

Cutler pointing the finger at him after the GB game, and the GM giving him the ultimatum. Some article referred to them wanting the get younger and more mobile on the O-Line, but the Bears fans didn't seem too excited to see him go. And I would add that the Bears don't always make the wisest decisions... pointing the finger at R. Williams. At the moment their depth chart is showing C. Spencer - who I know nothing about - and two rookies, so its hard to see them getting better at center with this move alone.

Sign him, if shows good in camp keep him if not let him go

And to further add to my point, this is how good Cutler is at evaluating talent:


Chicago Bears: Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler may have found his man in new wide receiver Roy Williams - chicagotribune.com


I guess Cutler doesn't include actually catching some balls in the category of a WR being "steady" or he means that he is steady at dropping balls.

LOL, yeah , not to mention he's played in a Dome for the last few years, its going to be a riot watching Williams playing in -10 degrees

After spending some more time on the Bears boards, it seems that a vast majority of the posters actually seemed fine with Kreutz leaving the team. They mostly stated that Kreutz wasn't good the past two seasons and couldn't compete with the NT's on that division anymore with the likes of Suh and Williams (but who can?).

They also claimed that Kreutz had major problems identifying blitzes and was getting pushed around rather than creating a push himself, also according to them he usually chose the wrong guy to double team. With the uncertainty on their center, many weren't against the idea of resigning him, but not at 5M/y he wanted - closer to 2M-3M/y which they thought would be a fair market value for him. The fact that the Bears offered him 4M/y was done out of appreciation of what he's done for the franchise in the past - that is according to them.

They didn't feel like any other team would pick him up, and that he might return to the Bears at a reduced salary or retire all together. Kreutz could still provide leadership, but they felt it wasn't enough anymore to justify his shortcomings in other areas.

Nice research, now I don't know whether its worth it. I'm not so worried about the getting pushed around part, I'm more worried about him failing to recognize blitzes properly. At least if he was still on top of his game mentally, Tennant would benefit from picking this guys brain, but if he can't hang physically and mentally, than its not worth the money because in the end you get a guy you won't use much and who doesn't make anyone else better.

nfl net lafortora or who ever was reporting this morning that new orleans would have news on signing kreutz later today. ho ho ho

The rest of the bears line is not very good, which is going to make him look like he is playing bad. Picking up blitz's is also the QB's responsibility. That's why you need a good Center/QB relationship. Jay cutler is not very smart, he just has a cannon.

True, I see the correlation...he didn't start playing bad mentally till cutler got there

But he was fine mentally under....Rex Grossman?

Rex Grossman is a smart QB, he just is not the best passer. He is kinda like a Trent Dilfer type player

I don't know I'm just saying from what the guy who read the bears forums said, he said he hadn't played well the last two years. I don't really make it a priority of mine to watch the bears, If there on and another good game isn't on I'll watch them. Rex Grossman is garbage

That's exactly why went on their boards since I don't watch Bears' games. Kreutz apparently had some injury two seasons ago or an older injury was lingering with him, but a lot of people said he could get up from the crouch because of it, and therefore spent most his time on his belly or on top of the QB. Last season that wasn't bothering him anymore and he was able get up from the crouch, but still he was pushed down more often than not. And that seemed to have been the biggest beef they had with him - him spending too much time either on his back or belly instead of protecting Cutler.

But like the argument that was brought up here as well, some claimed that the O-Line overall was bad, which wasn't Kreutz's fault even though he did not perform individually as well as they would've hoped him to. A lot of the blame was also placed on the O-Line couch and the D-Coordinator.

Anyway, all of this is just picked up from their boards, so I can't say if these statements and evaluations are in fact correct.

I cant say I agree with those jerkoff bear fans, their offensive live sucks since cutler has been a bear hes been the most sacked qb in the league. Remember the whirly bird he got tossed for on MNF hes spent much of his Bears career on his back or running for his life. You cant blame The center for that.

We got him for 2 millon BUT hadn't Chicago offered 4 million? I am not sure what that says about him OR about CHicago!!