Ivory
 

After what i saw tonight ...C.I is still the best back we have..Ingram ..rookie..Pt ..apprehensive...Bell..hmmm looked better than the others..Sproles..didnt get to see enough..he aint no Reggie ...

Well I don't know where to put him. But He runs like a crazed meth junky. I think he is the awesome. Can't wait till he is back

"When Healthy".

The dude got hurt rehabbing.

I think PT is our best running back and this video proves it. In fact, it you look at Ingram's college film highlights, it hardly compares. Remember, PRO vs COLLEGE. To me, Ingram is still second string. PT, CI, MI good problem for Brees & Payton to have. :cool:

I must agree, for now. I think Ingram has a higher ceiling, but if I had to get 3 yards to win or lose the game, I calling PT's number... for now.

We rode this kid to a SuperBowl Victory. Never thought that would happen. :p

Pierre's Balance, vision and toughness makes him our best back

Can anyone remember in the superbowl, we were not doing a lot offensively. I can still remember this one play that got us moving, Pierre caught a pass from Drew for about two yards nearly the right sideline, got hit by two defenders and pushed backwards, bounces off and all of sudden comes racing straight back through to gain about 9 yards from nowhere.

By the start of the season i think it will be, 1 Pierre, 2 Ingram, 2.5 (sharing carries) Ivory - still a beast and gives us a lot of power and momentum

Our OL will end up telling us who's the best. Last night I'd have to say it was between Bell and Ingram, but that was mainly due to who was up in front of them on both sides of the ball. (Not counting one totally cool spin move while Ingram was dancin' his way into the end zone.) I'm hopin' our OL will get their poop in a group so we can argue about this all season and then some. Who Dat?

I dont see Ivory on the active roster when the season starts

THANK GAWD. :bng:

Can we bring him back to the practice squad?

Ivory is going to be on the PUP list to start the season, which is what SP has stated... barring any statements to the contrary he might have made within the last few days. Ivory is a real power runner, but I fear that he will go the way of Barber and become ineffective due to the injuries his hard running style produces. If the coaches are able to get Ivory to modify his running style so that it won't be as hard on his body... he might have the longevity to really brake out, but it's hard to see that happening and him staying as effective as a runner at the same time.

I think that Ingram looked better than a lot of people seem to think. I wasn't expecting him to brake for 80+ yard runs on his first taste of professional football. I was glad to see him pick up a good block a few times, since that's one part that seems to be hard for a lot of young RBs coming out of College.

AGREED!!! :)

Ivory will be there.

I'm done with Ivory. Hurt in College, hurt last year, hurt now. Why would anyone think the trend of injuries will stop?

If he modifies his running style to a less injury prone one or he focuses on his conditioning and overall muscle fitness... or both. I don't want
to give up on the kid because he has had some bad luck with injuries while showing promise as a runner. I think he has above average vision,
he's able to quickly adjust his running direction without losing speed at the same time (--> see Reggie Bush) and he's good at running between tackles.

Ingram is the Saints best all around RB. Hands down. Not even close. He has potential greatness barring injury. It will become apparent as the season goes along. PT is a very good #2 RB that does everything well. Not great at anything. Sproles is a very good situational RB. Ivory has all the skills but will never be healthy.

I don't know. I'm sitting here thinking, "How can you tell a guy to try to break through the brick wall a different way?" I think the reason he gets hurt so much is because he plays with reckless abandon and he doesn't have the body for it. Not many do.

I don't know if anyone remembers who Chris Brown was but Ivory profiles a lot like him. He did have multiple thousand yard seasons but his violent running style made him injury prone and gradually no one wanted to take that chance with him anymore.

Run with a lower center of gravity which will help with the tackles to the lower body and be more susceptible to going down when there's nothing more
to be gained in a run instead of milking out every possible yard 'cos those pile tackles where the runner is forced to stand up and then the pile falls
on him are where many RBs hurt themselves. I mean those are just few examples, but I'm sure professional coaches can do a lot with a young
guy like Ivory if he is just willing to do the work required. After all the way he runs is not coded to his DNA... it's just the way he has learned do to it
along the years.

Please don't say that! :)

Furthermore to my previous point... This would be a great year for Ivory to take a step back from the game and work on his running technique,
conditioning, and muscle fitness. He'll start on the PUP and if f.e. the Saints were able to move him to the practice squad - he could
concentrate on those aspects, since barring any injuries to the RB corps, his contribution wouldn't be missed as much this year. I read an
article where a NFL RB - can't remember who - talked about how he started doing Pilates as part of his muscle fitness program. And
according to him, Pilates helped him to strengthen his core muscles, which helped him a lot in improving his running balance and also it apparently
helped him to stay injury free. That could be something Ivory could try also..?

PUP
He hasn't even put on a helmet yet this year.
When camp started, he was running rehab drills with Porter and Romeus every day.
He and Romeus have been absent from that for over a week now.
He will probably be back around week 6, fresh and healthy.

That would be Great ! Keep'em fresh all the way through

Silver lining to this, We get to see more of Joique Bell!

http://images.memegenerator.net/inst...0x/9358147.jpg

I can easily see Ivory starting the season on PUP and then coming in healthy for the rotation. And unfortunately we haven't been able to keep our running backs to stay on the field so we maybe needing a fresh set of legs coming in later.

Bell will be the preseason star. After that he will fade into obsecurity.

Hard to disagree with this logic. :bng:

Reggie Bush did that a couple years ago.

:-D

The article that I was referring to was definitely not about Reggie, but if he has done it also, then it would seem that it is something that can help RBs in general.

I mean Pilates is really good for anyone who works out, it allows you to get more reps in while decreasing the chances of injuring yourself.

Dude. Seriously...?

Yeah as a pure runner yep...and he was a UDFA right?

It's a little early to write off Mark Ingram. We're freaking out way too much about this preseason game. IT"S THE FIRST PRESEASON GAME!

Nobody writing off Mark Ingram brah...lol...he is a rookie..I just like the way Ivory runs...Bell runs hard to...Im sure Ingram will be just fine..he had a few nice runs and was picking up the blitz ok....I just like Chris's smash mouth style of running...thats all

So you like the "sample" of running Ivory displayed in a handful of games last year, more than Pierre Thomas/Mark Ingram's/Darren Sproles's multiple seasons of production?

Maybe I need a "sample" of what you're smokin'. lol

I dont think you need any smoke man..lol..and who had the best season as a Saints running back last year?....

And how many starters were sidelined with injuries last year?

C'mon brah, Deuce almost led the team in rushing last year.

Deuce?

lol..he still led the team in rushing didnt he?....if we would have had him for that Seattle game..we probably win..Ivory that is..

lol. that seattle game was an anomaly... career-high stats from "hassled-back", perfect storm, whatever you wanna call it. That was an atypical performance from a beleaguered Saints team.

But yes, Ivory would have helped...