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alexonfyre 08-17-2011 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 320860)
Oh no. He's just playing possum...

:mrgreen:

I would laugh so loud if Payton is having Drew tank in public practices to draw people off guard (or to give bad tape to Belichick who is probably filming it)

Euphoria 08-17-2011 10:43 PM

LOL, yes its sort of like holding him back to not give up what he is capable off until the games start after how many years he has put up gawdy numberts...

Although we could go with Chase as the starter... I mean at this point Chase has more "upside".

foreverfan 08-18-2011 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by gandhi1007 (Post 320387)
I hope it's a sign that we are going to have one hell of a defense this year.

Proof that Greg Williams can make anyone look bad. :bng:

Cory9289 08-18-2011 12:43 AM

Just out of sync in my opinion.

Memnoch_TP 08-18-2011 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 320933)
LOL, yes its sort of like holding him back to not give up what he is capable off until the games start after how many years he has put up gawdy numberts...

Although we could go with Chase as the starter... I mean at this point Chase has more "upside".

I don't know whether to agree with you or slap you until your teeth rattle. :D

crawgator 08-18-2011 03:18 AM

Maybe Drew looks bad.. I hope to see the Saints when They come to California,, But a lot of this has to do with the defense he is playing with.. All in all it should make him better come season opener.. I don't think it should be anything to worry about.. Also remember this off season Drew was busy trying to get football going. That also maybe a factor in all this.. But If I know Drew he will shake this off, just like everything else.. He is to much of a competitor...


GEAUX SAINTS

NOS2SB 08-18-2011 04:30 AM

Bet he throws a TD vs the Texans this weekend.

spkb25 08-18-2011 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 320862)
It seems to me the offense struggled at camp in '09 when GW brought his defense to play his first year. The competition will only make the Oline better and learn how to play together in a hurry.

I was wondering the same thing, but I remember as the preseason went we really looked in tune. I am hoping that in the next two games we really show some consistency.

spkb25 08-18-2011 04:56 AM

I am a little worried because on NOLA some of what they're saying leads you to believe the o is struggling a little. Hope it is just that our D is going to be really good this year

spkb25 08-18-2011 05:45 AM

2009 brees was 6-9 88 yards 1 td first game, 9-14 87 yards 1 td second game. Liked to see the play better this saturday

Strangely our second preseason and third preseason games in 09 were houston and oakland, just like this year. Is this a sign?

FinSaint 08-18-2011 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 320933)
Although we could go with Chase as the starter... I mean at this point Chase has more "upside".

I know your joking, but I don't fully agree with your definition of "upside," because as I see it Daniels doesn't have the skill-set or the potential to ever reach the level that Brees is at this moment or will be when he finally retires someday.

When I mention the "upside" of a certain player, I always refer to his potential to be better than the other guy I'm comparing him to. As I understand it, you consider the whole concept of "upside" as ridiculous, and like to evaluate players based on their abilities and performance at the current moment with no regard to the near future. Still, I would think that there is something to be said about thinking ahead, which is how "dynasty-like" franchises are made.

Please don't take this as an attack on your point of view... just as a comment to your previous comments about the subject. http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/fun/m0109.gif

Mardigras9 08-18-2011 06:50 AM

We just will not know until Sept 8 when the games count and its time to make the push for the Superbowl. Unfortunately, I think this year every game will count in our division. Drew will have the advantage this year of not having to carry the weight as much, like in the past. It appears a running game, and a stout defense will ease his burden. A less than par pre-season is probably a good thing for him to get his head right moving into the season.

Danno 08-18-2011 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 320933)
Although we could go with Chase as the starter... I mean at this point Chase has more "upside".

Chase does have some upside, but his ceiling is likely still way below Drew's.

poydras 08-18-2011 10:50 AM

We'll find out this weekend. If Drew has another bad day, we're probably in big trouble.

B_Dub_Saint 08-18-2011 11:13 AM

He's human. When the games count your can bet your ass he will be ready. The guy works harder than any other QB in the league

73Saint 08-18-2011 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 320862)
It seems to me the offense struggled at camp in '09 when GW brought his defense to play his first year. The competition will only make the Oline better and learn how to play together in a hurry.


Rugby, I hope you are right about this. Because, I remember it the other way around. I seem to recall our O having an extreme tightness, and I remember there being a buzz in camp about how "on" our O was. Nothing was hitting the ground.

So, maybe I am wrong in my recollection. Hoping your memory is better than mine on this front!!!

NOS2SB 08-18-2011 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by poydras (Post 321044)
We'll find out this weekend. If Drew has another bad day, we're probably in big trouble.

Aaron Brooks was trouble. This is Drew Brees. He can have four bad preseason games. He's his own worst critic. Again, no worries from me.

Choupique 08-18-2011 09:03 PM

Unphuckingingbelievable... some of you nitwits are turning on Drew?
That does it. You're no longer a Saints fan. You have to move to Atlanta.

Disloyal dweebs.

Drew is the man. More than any of you likely will ever be in your entire life.


Mod Edit

Call us anything but Falcon fans:brood:

Cory9289 08-18-2011 11:11 PM

Seriously, chill out hombres.

SAINT_MICHAEL 08-18-2011 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Choupique (Post 321195)
Unphuckingingbelievable... some of you nitwits are turning on Drew?
That does it. You're no longer a Saints fan. You have to move to Atlanta.

Disloyal dweebs.

Drew is the man. More than any of you likely will ever be in your entire life.


Mod Edit

Call us anything but Falcon fans:brood:

Oh my God! Hades must have frozen over, because I agree with Choupique. You all should be ashamed!

B_Dub_Saint 08-19-2011 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Choupique (Post 321195)
Unphuckingingbelievable... some of you nitwits are turning on Drew?
That does it. You're no longer a Saints fan. You have to move to Atlanta.

Disloyal dweebs.

Drew is the man. More than any of you likely will ever be in your entire life.


Mod Edit

Call us anything but Falcon fans:brood:

Really!! Come on guys. Its Breesus for christ sakes. The dude is a stud. It just training camp and dont for get about the lockout. He just needs to shake off the rust. Chill out peeps :bng:

jnormand 08-19-2011 11:02 AM

AAAAAAGGHHH!!!!!!

Danno 08-19-2011 11:15 AM

Wow, so someone points out that Brees hasn't looked good SO FAR this pre-season and some of you guys act like you were just butt-raped.

Grow a freaking spine ladies!

73Saint 08-19-2011 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 321331)
Wow, so someone points out that Brees hasn't looked good SO FAR this pre-season and some of you guys act like you were just butt-raped.

Grow a freaking spine ladies!

Exactly. Plus, what's wrong with making an observation. It's just called concern. No one is jumping off the bus here, and Drew at 60 or 70 percent is still better than most at 100. Nothing wrong with a little conversation.

FinSaint 08-19-2011 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 73Saint (Post 321335)
Nothing wrong with a little conversation.

Yeah, I thought that was the whole point of having these boards... to speculate and discuss all things related to the Saints?!

If you don't like the topic of a certain thread... avoid it, but don't come down on others who are discussing something they find interesting and worth exploring.

jnormand 08-19-2011 01:19 PM

I just like yelling and being over dramatic. Aggghhhh!

jeanpierre 08-19-2011 08:29 PM

He'll get it turned on...

foreverfan 08-19-2011 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL (Post 321221)
Oh my God! Hades must have frozen over, because I agree with Choupique. You all should be ashamed!

Me too... LOL :bng:

I really think it's our defense playing better ball. Brees is being forced to be on his toes every play and not having his way. Face it, Greg Williams know the offense and knows how to stop it. Would you rather Brees throwing for 1000 yards every practice? What would that say?

The offensive line has a few new starters too. We shall see.
If one thing is for sure, Brees is usually the least of our problems. :doh:

Saint_LB 08-20-2011 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 321470)
If one thing is for sure, Brees is usually the least of our problems. :doh:

Yeah, cause Chase does have his upsides.

st thomas 08-20-2011 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by gandhi1007 (Post 320387)
I hope it's a sign that we are going to have one hell of a defense this year.

butt slap gandhi, i don't have to comment after that one. we have this beast of a de.

Memnoch_TP 08-20-2011 11:59 AM

Bah, he is slipping up. Time to replace him. Andrew Luck anyone?

FinSaint 08-20-2011 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Memnoch_TP (Post 321709)
Bah, he is slipping up. Time to replace him. Andrew Luck anyone?

Naaah. I thought that the 49ers already had the dibs on the "Lose for Luck" strategy?! ;-)

Memnoch_TP 08-20-2011 02:15 PM

We can just trade our draft for him, like NYG did with Eli!

Fleured 08-20-2011 06:53 PM

It's a TC decoy. No probs with Drew. We would like Green Bay overconfident..

Choupique 08-25-2011 02:59 PM

Some of you are now OFFICIALLY ATLANTA FALCONS fans for life.
You have no choice. I won't let you forget it. Forever.

Censor that.

I just call it like it is. The chips fall where they will.

A wise man once said, don't act like a douchenozzle and you won't get called one.

Cory9289 08-25-2011 07:05 PM

Man, I guess that's the thing about people. They love you when you're good but soon as you start slipping up, GET TO THE CURB! OMGZ!!!lol!11!

FireVenturi 08-25-2011 08:26 PM

Still baffles me how folks are saying Drew is slipping up. Right now, a slipping Drew is better than a sharp Chase Daniels. Also, a slipping Drew is better than 80% of the quarterbacks in the NFL.

73Saint 08-25-2011 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FireVenturi (Post 323516)
Still baffles me how folks are saying Drew is slipping up. Right now, a slipping Drew is better than a sharp Chase Daniels. Also, a slipping Drew is better than 80% of the quarterbacks in the NFL.

I agree that a "bad drew" is better than most qb's at their best. I don't think that's what folks are commenting on. The observation, at least for me anyway, was that Drew hasn't seemed to be playing at the level we have become used to seeing.

I also would stress two words: Observation and Seemed. I think overall, people's observations about this have been pretty on point...and I'd venture to guess even Drew would admit this. But at the end of the day, it's all just speculation.

I think it's natural to show concern for someone, or something that is so obviously an integral part of the success of our beloved Saints.

Danno 08-25-2011 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cory9289 (Post 323496)
Man, I guess that's the thing about people. They love you when you're good but soon as you start slipping up, GET TO THE CURB! OMGZ!!!lol!11!

Can you name one single person who said this? Anywhere?

73Saint 08-25-2011 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cory9289 (Post 323496)
Man, I guess that's the thing about people. They love you when you're good but soon as you start slipping up, GET TO THE CURB! OMGZ!!!lol!11!


No, they love you when you're good, but once you are good the bar is raised. Once you set that bar at the level Drew has, folks expect that and better.

I think it's natural to over analyze imperfections, or what we perceive as such, in the face of our franchise.


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