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Speedy Ron 08-17-2011 01:24 PM

Chase Daniel discussion
 
I am hearing conflicting assessments of chase just through different fans. i personally think he looked good in the preseason game and believe that working with brees has made him somewhat of an interesting prospect. i think if something happened to brees (god forbid) he would be serviceable. do i think he is the future?....NO but i do believe he is a good back up. Your thoughts please...

Maverick2299 08-17-2011 01:29 PM

he is a good back-up

ALLSAINTS66 08-17-2011 01:41 PM

From what I saw of him the two times I went to camp, he's a
good backup. He's proficient, and is showing increasingly
Brees-y footwork. I think he's the perfect understudy, and with
his dedication and enthusiasm, is everything Brees/The Saints
could ask for in an understudy. Sean Canfield, on the other
hand. Jesus. That poor child. Maybe he'll come around.

Budsdrinker 08-17-2011 02:38 PM

Brees didn't start out great in San Diego. That's why they drafted Rivers. It took Drew a few years to get to the level he is at now.
Give Daniels another year working with Drew and he will be able to step right on in there without skipping a beat.

alexonfyre 08-17-2011 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 320764)
Brees didn't start out great in San Diego. That's why they drafted Rivers. It took Drew a few years to get to the level he is at now.
Give Daniels another year working with Drew and he will be able to step right on in there without skipping a beat.

I agree, what I've seen out of Chase so far is better than I have seen of half of the guys starting on some other teams.

xan 08-17-2011 03:10 PM

If not Chase, then who?

I guess the important factor to consider is the offensive scheme and the personnel.

Crusader 08-17-2011 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedy Ron (Post 320743)
I am hearing conflicting assessments of chase just through different fans. i personally think he looked good in the preseason game and believe that working with brees has made him somewhat of an interesting prospect. i think if something happened to brees (god forbid) he would be serviceable. do i think he is the future?....NO but i do believe he is a good back up. Your thoughts please...

I think he will be somebody elses future. I stated this earlier in some other thread that I think he will be traded for a couple of picks to get the chance to start for som QB needy team ala Matt Schaub.

I think he looked good against the 49ers and hope he can continue that during the pre season to up his stock some more.

ALLSAINTS66 08-17-2011 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Magic (Post 320781)
Canfield looked ok in the small amount of time i saw him last week. Are you privy to some other info? The kid looks like an interesting prospect with a big arm to me.

Daniel looks "ok' to me, but he leaves a lot to be desired. If Brees goes down the season is done, we have to accept that.

The info. I'm "privy" to was watching him the two times I saw him
(first day of camp, last day of (public/NOLA) camp, make mistake
after mistake and he looks extremely underweight and in need
of some soup and more weightlifting to me. "Big arm"? I didn't
see it. Maybe he didn't bring it with him the days I saw him.

FinSaint 08-17-2011 04:23 PM

He's a good backup, since Brees really doesn't need anybody challenging him in order to compete at a high level. Sometimes competition at the QB spot can be a good thing, but that obviously isn't the case in NO.

I'm not sure if he's the future - of the Saints or any other team for that matter - but Brees was very complimentary towards Daniels when he spoke to the media about him early in the camp. Naturally that could be just Brees trying to build him up, but there could be something to it.

Just based on what I've seen from him I don't think he has the skill-set to be/become dominant in any particular aspect of quarterbacking, but he can turn out to be a reliable #2 with emphasis on game-management. I guess only time will tell, but at the moment I'm content with him being the #2.

On the other hand, I'm slightly more optimistic about Canfield.

saintfan 08-17-2011 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALLSAINTS66 (Post 320789)
The info. I'm "privy" to was watching him the two times I saw him
(first day of camp, last day of (public/NOLA) camp, make mistake
after mistake and he looks extremely underweight and in need
of some soup
and more weightlifting to me. "Big arm"? I didn't
see it. Maybe he didn't bring it with him the days I saw him.

Now that's funny right there. :mrgreen:

lumm0x 08-17-2011 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 320794)
He's a good backup, since Brees really doesn't need anybody challenging him in order to compete at a high level. Sometimes competition at the QB spot can be a good thing, but that obviously isn't the case in NO.

I'm not sure if he's the future - of the Saints or any other team for that matter - but Brees was very complimentary towards Daniels when he spoke to the media about him early in the camp. Naturally that could be just Brees trying to build him up, but there could be something to it.

Just based on what I've seen from him I don't think he has the skill-set to be/become dominant in any particular aspect of quarterbacking, but he can turn out to be a reliable #2 with emphasis on game-management. I guess only time will tell, but at the moment I'm content with him being the #2.

On the other hand, I'm slightly more optimistic about Canfield.

Pretty much agree with this with exception of the Canfield expectations. I don't think he'll ever crack more than a 3rd string in the league.

Chase has very limited experience in game action, but he does bring alot of traits that remind of Brees. Having a back up QB who is of similar stature, plays a similar style and can essentially be groomed to become a poor man's Brees is a nice comfort zone for the offense to at least see some consistency of style should we ever be unfortunate enough to suffer a fate such as Brees going down.

He likely will never be our long term answer should we lose Drew, nor may he ever be anyone else's long term answer for a different team. But if he can be our Jeff Hostetler or Brad Johnson, a guy who can step in and win in a pinch without massive drop off or propensity for overzealous rookie mistakes, he may be the perfect back up answer.

We have Drew so that is the best we can hope for. A number two just good enough to keep us afloat when needed but not good enough he is highly desired elsewhere.

Cruize 08-17-2011 06:13 PM

His biggest asset right now to the team and himself is his salary. But, he does have skills. If he was forced into action, I believe he could get the job done. He's fiery and does seem to have leadership skills. He can also make a play with his legs.

homerj07 08-17-2011 06:47 PM

Lets just pray it isn't a problem

MatthewT 08-18-2011 01:39 AM

I actually feel pretty decent with Chase Daniel as the number 2 guy. I feel he is probably the best number 2 QB that the Saints have had in a very long time. If Brees happens to go down, I think Chase could come in and keep the team going. Especially with the way the Saints defense is looking so far, and greater emphasis on the running game, all he would have to do is pretty much manage the game and things should be fine.

Memnoch_TP 08-18-2011 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 320764)
Brees didn't start out great in San Diego. That's why they drafted Rivers. It took Drew a few years to get to the level he is at now.
Give Daniels another year working with Drew and he will be able to step right on in there without skipping a beat.

Actually, Brees did start out pretty great. He didn't start his first year, and with the exception of one injury shortened season he had 3000+ yards and 60%+ completions year in and year out. It did take Drew a few years to get to the level he is at now, but you don't just start out as one of the best of the best anyway. There was nothing shoddy about Brees in SD.

They drafted Rivers because their GM has a big head and wanted a guy he drafted under center. That is also why they kept Rivers over Brees. Schottenheimer wanted to keep Brees over Rivers and was so adamant about it he was fired. Obviously that worked out well for them.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Magic (Post 320781)
Daniel looks "ok' to me, but he leaves a lot to be desired. If Brees goes down the season is done, we have to accept that.

No, I sure as hell don't have to accept that. You can tell I don't have to accept that by the fact that I don't accept that.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Magic (Post 320792)
So your "scouting report" was from watching him "2 days"?

Kind of harsh to bash the kid like that after watching him "2 days" don't you think?

No, no, no. "2 days" doesn't go into quotes because it is a reference to 2 days. There is no alternative meaning, so the quotes are useless. Why is it bashing him if it was true? If he was making bad decisions all day, WHY is it bashing to say he was making bad decisions all day? I don't get it. You made judgements off of seeing one preseason game on TV, but someone else who has seen more of this guy playing can't comment on what they saw because it was only two days worth of practices? That is silly. And, since you have only seen him for "1 preseason game" (That doesn't go in quotes either, I'm just mocking you) by your own qualifications for commentary all you should be allowed to say about him is his name, number, and position.

Speedy Ron 08-18-2011 07:43 AM

ill be surprised if sean CANTfield even makes the team.

Mardigras9 08-18-2011 08:57 AM

Hopefully not an issue. Daniels does make suspect throws when under pressure. He's a good number 2, but not the future.

FinSaint 08-18-2011 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumm0x (Post 320807)
Pretty much agree with this with exception of the Canfield expectations. I don't think he'll ever crack more than a 3rd string in the league.

What I meant by it was that I'm optimistic about him mainly because I haven't yet seen enough of him to make an educated assessment of his abilities, and secondly 'cos I want every Saints player to turn out to be a gem of a player.

I'm not saying he's going to ever be a #1 QB in the league nor am I saying he'll even be better than Daniels... I was just making the point that I'm hopeful at this point in time, until proven otherwise.

Saint_LB 08-18-2011 03:22 PM

Where's Danno when you need him?

Listen guys... It is Chase Daniel. Notice no "s" at the end. (are quotes OK there, M?)

I gotta keep my man Danno happy...

... and for the record, I think he could do fine if called to duty. I hope I don't have to find out, though.

I would be surprised if someone else hasn't already inquired about his services.

strato 08-18-2011 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 321109)
Where's Danno when you need him?

Listen guys... It is Chase Daniel. Notice no "s" at the end. (are quotes OK there, M?)

I gotta keep my man Danno happy...

... and for the record, I think he could do fine if called to duty. I hope I don't have to find out, though.

I would be surprised if someone else hasn't already inquired about his services.


Hmmm...now we see....lol

saintfan 08-18-2011 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 321109)
Where's Danno when you need him?

Listen guys... It is Chase Daniel. Notice no "s" at the end. (are quotes OK there, M?)

I gotta keep my man Danno happy...

... and for the record, I think he could do fine if called to duty. I hope I don't have to find out, though.

I would be surprised if someone else hasn't already inquired about his services.

Yes, but your over-use of "..." is duly noted.

Damnit I just used quotes. When will the madness end?


:doh:

Saint_LB 08-18-2011 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 321115)
Yes, but your over-use of "..." is duly noted.



Yes, I am in a quandary. How do I get rid of this habit. I don't know where it all started... :doh:

Memnoch_TP 08-18-2011 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 321109)
Listen guys... It is Chase Daniel. Notice no "s" at the end. (are quotes OK there, M?)

Yes, but sentence inside the parenthesis should be before the period.


Quote:

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 321115)
Yes, but your over-use of "..." is duly noted.

Damnit I just used quotes. When will the madness end?

Yes, but you used them correctly.

Danno 08-18-2011 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 321109)
Where's Danno when you need him?

Listen guys... It is Chase Daniel. Notice no "s" at the end. (are quotes OK there, M?)

I gotta keep my man Danno happy...

Oh I wanted to point it out, trust me. It was killin' me not to.;)

saintfan 08-19-2011 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Memnoch_TP (Post 321122)
Yes, but sentence inside the parenthesis should be before the period.




Yes, but you used them correctly.

English just came naturally. I can't do math for SH*T. LMAO

FinSaint 08-19-2011 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 321115)
Yes, but your over-use of "..." is duly noted.

Damnit I just used quotes. When will the madness end?


:doh:


I hate it when people talk to you and use their fingers to make quotation marks... it just drives me crazy! http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/fun/m0146.gif

jnormand 08-19-2011 02:36 PM

Wait....what?..

saintfan 08-19-2011 04:34 PM

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QBREES9 08-20-2011 12:08 AM

Hey how much will we see of Chase in the next few games.

The Dude 08-20-2011 12:14 AM

Is he the future? NO. But, with what we have done to beef up our defense, running game, and special teams, if God forbid something did happen to Brees we would still be contenders with Chase at the healm. With the team we have built, as it looks thus far in preseason, we can still win if we had to with a smart, game managing QB who limits mistakes. We have a complete team for once. Chase will do in a pinch, but he is nothing to build the franchise around, thats for sure. A good backup is what he is.

saintsfan1313 08-20-2011 01:51 PM

Aaron Brooks is looking for work.....

Fleured 08-20-2011 06:46 PM

At this point in this Payton-Brees era of Saintdom, one of the team's major strengths just from game to game during the regular season is the respect and fear that Drew gets from NFL defenses. Every receiver must be accounted for by defensive backs, Drew will exercise his options with his backfield and he can run for whatever he must get.
Would I see the same with Chase? If defenses don't see a #9 jersey behind center (http://209.85.12.234/7361/20/emo/eusa_pray.gif don't let that happen) they will tee off. I feel good about Chase as a backup, but 'serviceable' won't cut it in an extremely competitive NFC Conference (sans West).

Memnoch_TP 08-21-2011 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1313 (Post 321733)
Aaron Brooks is looking for work.....

And -1 for you...

Crusader 08-21-2011 10:50 AM

He had a decent game aginst the Texans, not great but certainly not awful either. The pass for Morgan was a beauty.

hagan714 08-21-2011 10:57 AM

not bad. he has improved from this time last year


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