Records and Evaluation of a Team.

JKool · 01-05-2004, 02:39 PM

WhoDat.

I take you point, and I still agree with you about the importance of Ends. I\'m having some trouble understanding why you keep saying that is all that matters?

We wouldn\'t simply start cheering for a different team just because they had a better record than our favorite black and gold bums (this year anyway). Something other than Ends must matter to a Saint fan anyway.

In evaluating a team, it cannot be only record that matters. If that was it, there would be no meaningful way to rank teams at the start of a season, say after the draft. How could we say who had a better offseason? There would be no way to evaluate the new team (after the draft, FA, and so on) because that team has no record. Surely, in these instances, Means matters? What a team is RIGHT NOW before the season starts is something - good, bad, ugly, what have you - but it has no record.

It seems to me that there is room for argument over which matters more, Means or Ends, in evaluating a team; but, I\'m still confused (probably my hangover) as to why both don\'t matter at least some in evaluating how good a team is.

01-05-2004, 02:39 PM	#11
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Records and Evaluation of a Team. WhoDat. I take you point, and I still agree with you about the importance of Ends. I\'m having some trouble understanding why you keep saying that is all that matters? We wouldn\'t simply start cheering for a different team just because they had a better record than our favorite black and gold bums (this year anyway). Something other than Ends must matter to a Saint fan anyway. In evaluating a team, it cannot be only record that matters. If that was it, there would be no meaningful way to rank teams at the start of a season, say after the draft. How could we say who had a better offseason? There would be no way to evaluate the new team (after the draft, FA, and so on) because that team has no record. Surely, in these instances, Means matters? What a team is RIGHT NOW before the season starts is something - good, bad, ugly, what have you - but it has no record. It seems to me that there is room for argument over which matters more, Means or Ends, in evaluating a team; but, I\'m still confused (probably my hangover) as to why both don\'t matter at least some in evaluating how good a team is.
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