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WhoDat!656 09-10-2011 05:00 PM

Payton doesnt reget final play call Thursday night
 
Sean Payton on final play call: We had a chance to punch it in | ProFootballTalk

NOS2SB 09-10-2011 05:39 PM

We just played the toughest team in the league. Realistically, we can win the next 8 games.

papz 09-10-2011 05:42 PM

One of the great offensive minds in the game... I wouldn't want him second guessing himself either.

WhoDat!656 09-10-2011 06:01 PM

I was screaming for the Saints to give the ball to Ingram!!

homerj07 09-10-2011 07:57 PM

I was just screaming...

strato 09-11-2011 02:00 AM

Wake up!..bad call..you cant run against a 9 man front...sorry Payton you ****ed up..

Crusader 09-11-2011 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 329035)
Wake up!..bad call..you cant run against a 9 man front...sorry Payton you ****ed up..

Yes you can, thats what you usually do on goal line. In reality it is just a matter of getting push on 1 or 2 guys right infront of the ballcarrier.

strato 09-11-2011 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 329044)
Yes you can, thats what you usually do on goal line. In reality it is just a matter of getting push on 1 or 2 guys right infront of the ballcarrier.


Your right C ..we should be able to...but GB had stuffed us before...and in that crucial situation you have to be a little more creative..I wish we would try using the FB some to..

SaintsBro 09-11-2011 09:20 AM

I was thinking at the time, that the intent all along was to punch it in first with Ingram, and then I was feeling they would go to Jimmy Graham for the 2 point conversion. That goal line play they've done before, where Jimmy just kinda walks three steps into the end zone, turns around and catches it. I felt like that play was definitely in the mix.

But because of the situation, you really needed to run TWO different back-to-back scoring plays in that exact same spot.... Doubtful that you could run the same exact play twice and it would work, so no matter how you slice it, one play pretty much needed to be a big-push run up the gut, and the other needed to be something else....it's better to risk punching it in first, because THEN you have all the creative options on the table for the 2 point conversion, you have the corners of the end zone, tight ends, Drew roll outs, and still possibly a run. You score on a fancy play first, it kind of takes away the fancy plays for when you need to go for 2.

I don't really second guess this play call one bit, not in the least.

hagan714 09-11-2011 09:25 AM

oh well. gotta have faith. GB is a top defense and they showed why. The saints are not there yet. next up da - bears

Banjojoe 09-11-2011 09:46 AM

I guess it's easy for us sitting at home and calling plays after the fact. But, during the heat of the game, when you have no timeouts left to think things over, is another thing. However, I still feel that the Saints had the Pack where they wanted them - thinking run. So load the backfield as if you are going to run and let Drew run right on a quarterback keeper. The play would have worked because

1. It looks like run - you have all your running backs in there;
2. Drew almost never runs.
3. It usually works for other teams against us!

As I said before: looking back is a whole lot easier than in the heat of the game. But why SP adheres to the idea that this was the best call after looking at the film is another question.

Banjojoe :doh:

|Mitch| 09-11-2011 09:54 AM

If Drew would have kept the ball and ran it instead, it would have been the same outcome. They totally blew our line up, nobody was getting any push.

In hindsight, a play-action to Graham, or a toss to Ingram getting him around the corner, may have worked...

saintsfan1976 09-11-2011 11:00 AM

Like I said. Call good. Execution bad.

AlaskaSaints 09-12-2011 03:59 AM

Horrible call.
Horrible broadcast of said call.
Horrible execution of said call.
Horrible outcome of said call.

There was always the other 99% of the field to utilize.

I don't know. But I started screaming NO, NO, NO, NO as soon as they lined up. But I aint no coach, now...

Alaska

Danno 09-12-2011 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 329280)
I don't know. But I started screaming NO, NO, NO, NO as soon as they lined up.

I did too. For pretty much the entire game they shoved our O-line backwards. Its not all of a sudden gonna change on the last play, especially when they put 9 in the box.

Payton is much smarter than any of us will ever be, but that call was a headscratcher.


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