Shaun Rogers

hitta · 09-27-2011, 08:43 AM

He looks like he's finally starting to get his legs under him. I wish Franklin would follow suit. Looks like the line though is improving every week and could actually be rather good eventually once the dust settles.

Crusader · 09-27-2011, 08:49 AM

Yeah I wasn't very impressed by him in the first 2 games but this game I think we finally played the run pretty well. They might not have had Foster back there but Tate is no slouch.

papz · 09-27-2011, 08:50 AM

This would be good time.

Maurice Jones-Drew, DeAngelo Williams, J-Stew, Cam Newton, and Blount are next in line. If we are going to crush these teams, it's got to start with our DL.

Danno · 09-27-2011, 08:55 AM

I'm worried about Ellis. He's been virtually invisible.The presence of two space eaters beside him was supposed to allow him to create havoc as a 3 tech.

So far, and I know its early, but I'm underwhelmed. Maybe they still need more time to gel.

Ashley · 09-27-2011, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'm worried about Ellis. He's been virtually invisible.The presence of two space eaters beside him was supposed to allow him to create havoc as a 3 tech.

So far, and I know its early, but I'm underwhelmed. Maybe they still need more time to gel.

I'm not trying to be an ass about this. But I'm tired of hearing the term "Time to gel." Were talking about people who has been in the league for a long time. Look at Darren Sproles, he just took off. We could be saying he needs time to gel with the oline in setting up his blocks. I use to say it to about the gelling, but players have been in this system now for how many weeks?
Just trying to say it's time to produce NOW.

hitta · 09-27-2011, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Ashley

I'm not trying to be an ass about this. But I'm tired of hearing the term "Time to gel." Were talking about people who has been in the league for a long time. Look at Darren Sproles, he just took off. We could be saying he needs time to gel with the oline in setting up his blocks. I use to say it to about the gelling, but players have been in this system now for how many weeks?
Just trying to say it's time to produce NOW.

Well that's true, but you got to remember that the role that Sproles has is in a more individualized capacity. He catches the ball, watches his blocks, shifts and works around people. I'd still argue that Sproles though will probably get better as the season goes as he'll more naturally have a grasp of the way that certain people with throw their blocks, and better position himself to make a play.

The thing about playing D-Line is that there is so many small things that have to be perfected. You can have the best defensive end in the history of the football with 3 other guys out there that are middle of the pack and that player would probably struggle. He'd still make plays and stuff from time to time, just because of his skill set, but the point I'm trying to make is that on the line, all the guys have to be in sync with each other. On the line, a couple of inches can be the difference between being dominated and dominating.

Cruize · 09-27-2011, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Ashley

Look at Darren Sproles, he just took off.

Truly like comparing apples and oranges. Two completely different skill sets. But, I understand your desire to see something, anything out of Rodgers and the other D-Line players. Although they did contain a very good rushing attack on Sunday, the lack of pressure on the QB is a major problem.

Ashley · 09-27-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruize

Truly like comparing apples and oranges. Two completely different skill sets. But, I understand your desire to see something, anything out of Rodgers and the other D-Line players. Although they did contain a very good rushing attack on Sunday, the lack of pressure on the QB is a major problem.

Yes that's true apples and oranges, and of course it's TOTALLY different skill sets. Your missing my point, I'm saying these guys have been in the league for yrs. It's not like we have a bunch of Galette's up on the front line together. Now you can talk about having time to "Gel" still learning the game etc...
The first point brought up was about Ellis turning loose, "Because of the space eatters". Ellis has been in this system for what three yrs now? If those guys were brought in to eat up space.? Ellis should be having a field day. He should not need time to gel.
I brought up the Sproles as a reference, he has been in the league now for a while. He's not like a Ingram or any other rookie who is learning the NFL game. We brought him here now and look what he has done already.

That's all I'm trying to get across, just tired of the term GEL. Because these guys are well coached and SHOULD be a force in the NFL with more pressure up front.

AlaskaSaints · 09-27-2011, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Ashley

I'm not trying to be an ass about this. But I'm tired of hearing the term "Time to gel." Were talking about people who has been in the league for a long time. Look at Darren Sproles, he just took off. We could be saying he needs time to gel with the oline in setting up his blocks. I use to say it to about the gelling, but players have been in this system now for how many weeks?
Just trying to say it's time to produce NOW.

Sorta what I'm thinking about Ingram...

Sometimes there's just too much water in the gelatin and it never sets up!!!

Alaska

Rugby Saint II · 09-27-2011, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

Sorta what I'm thinking about Ingram...

Sometimes there's just too much water in the gelatin and it never sets up!!!

Alaska

They haven't rushed Ingram enough to have any reservations at all. He's going to be a force. There are two dang fine RBs ahead of him.........he'll get his time.

09-27-2011, 08:43 AM	#1
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,331	Shaun Rogers He looks like he's finally starting to get his legs under him. I wish Franklin would follow suit. Looks like the line though is improving every week and could actually be rather good eventually once the dust settles.
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09-27-2011, 08:50 AM	#3
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	This would be good time. Maurice Jones-Drew, DeAngelo Williams, J-Stew, Cam Newton, and Blount are next in line. If we are going to crush these teams, it's got to start with our DL. RockyMountainSaint and SaintsRule11 like this.

09-27-2011, 08:55 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	I'm worried about Ellis. He's been virtually invisible.The presence of two space eaters beside him was supposed to allow him to create havoc as a 3 tech. So far, and I know its early, but I'm underwhelmed. Maybe they still need more time to gel. SaintsRule11 likes this.

09-27-2011, 11:22 AM	#5
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Originally Posted by Danno I'm worried about Ellis. He's been virtually invisible.The presence of two space eaters beside him was supposed to allow him to create havoc as a 3 tech. So far, and I know its early, but I'm underwhelmed. Maybe they still need more time to gel. I'm not trying to be an ass about this. But I'm tired of hearing the term "Time to gel." Were talking about people who has been in the league for a long time. Look at Darren Sproles, he just took off. We could be saying he needs time to gel with the oline in setting up his blocks. I use to say it to about the gelling, but players have been in this system now for how many weeks? Just trying to say it's time to produce NOW. lumm0x, jonnyrotten, strato and 3 others like this.

09-27-2011, 11:58 AM	#6
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,331	Originally Posted by Ashley I'm not trying to be an ass about this. But I'm tired of hearing the term "Time to gel." Were talking about people who has been in the league for a long time. Look at Darren Sproles, he just took off. We could be saying he needs time to gel with the oline in setting up his blocks. I use to say it to about the gelling, but players have been in this system now for how many weeks? Just trying to say it's time to produce NOW. Well that's true, but you got to remember that the role that Sproles has is in a more individualized capacity. He catches the ball, watches his blocks, shifts and works around people. I'd still argue that Sproles though will probably get better as the season goes as he'll more naturally have a grasp of the way that certain people with throw their blocks, and better position himself to make a play. The thing about playing D-Line is that there is so many small things that have to be perfected. You can have the best defensive end in the history of the football with 3 other guys out there that are middle of the pack and that player would probably struggle. He'd still make plays and stuff from time to time, just because of his skill set, but the point I'm trying to make is that on the line, all the guys have to be in sync with each other. On the line, a couple of inches can be the difference between being dominated and dominating.
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09-27-2011, 08:49 AM	#2
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,030	Yeah I wasn't very impressed by him in the first 2 games but this game I think we finally played the run pretty well. They might not have had Foster back there but Tate is no slouch.

09-27-2011, 01:42 PM	#7
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Originally Posted by Ashley Look at Darren Sproles, he just took off. Truly like comparing apples and oranges. Two completely different skill sets. But, I understand your desire to see something, anything out of Rodgers and the other D-Line players. Although they did contain a very good rushing attack on Sunday, the lack of pressure on the QB is a major problem.
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09-27-2011, 06:02 PM	#8
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	" Originally Posted by Cruize Truly like comparing apples and oranges. Two completely different skill sets. But, I understand your desire to see something, anything out of Rodgers and the other D-Line players. Although they did contain a very good rushing attack on Sunday, the lack of pressure on the QB is a major problem. Yes that's true apples and oranges, and of course it's TOTALLY different skill sets. Your missing my point, I'm saying these guys have been in the league for yrs. It's not like we have a bunch of Galette's up on the front line together. Now you can talk about having time to "Gel" still learning the game etc... The first point brought up was about Ellis turning loose, "Because of the space eatters". Ellis has been in this system for what three yrs now? If those guys were brought in to eat up space.? Ellis should be having a field day. He should not need time to gel. I brought up the Sproles as a reference, he has been in the league now for a while. He's not like a Ingram or any other rookie who is learning the NFL game. We brought him here now and look what he has done already. That's all I'm trying to get across, just tired of the term GEL. Because these guys are well coached and SHOULD be a force in the NFL with more pressure up front. SaintsRule11 likes this.
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09-27-2011, 07:04 PM	#9
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by Ashley I'm not trying to be an ass about this. But I'm tired of hearing the term "Time to gel." Were talking about people who has been in the league for a long time. Look at Darren Sproles, he just took off. We could be saying he needs time to gel with the oline in setting up his blocks. I use to say it to about the gelling, but players have been in this system now for how many weeks? Just trying to say it's time to produce NOW. Sorta what I'm thinking about Ingram... Sometimes there's just too much water in the gelatin and it never sets up!!! Alaska Boutte likes this.

09-27-2011, 08:07 PM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,117	Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints Sorta what I'm thinking about Ingram... Sometimes there's just too much water in the gelatin and it never sets up!!! Alaska They haven't rushed Ingram enough to have any reservations at all. He's going to be a force. There are two dang fine RBs ahead of him.........he'll get his time.

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