Should Kreutz be benched?
 

We played a good Tampa D....but while Kreutz was out for the saints. The Saints ran the ball better. Even when he went out against the Texans we started to run it better.

Just a thought.

I like de la Puenta....but im not the coach

You call Drew being the 2nd leading rusher for the team as running the ball better? I think the offense and defense need to swap sides of the ball...wouldn't hurt.

I said while Kreutz was out.....Kreutz started that game against Tampa

Yes, De La Puenta should have started yesterday. Kreutz was a patch. D.L.P. is a new tire.

You might be on to something here .... wasn't Kreutz part of the O-Line in Chicago which allowed umpteen sacks on Cutler?

Kreutz was an under sized over achiever for most of his time in Chicago. Now he's just an under achiever. I thought de la Puenta did a much better job and was hoping Kreutz would have to earn back his spot. He may have lost it this week.

Kruetz deserves to be benched as much as Evans and Nicks. Our interior line was dominated. There's plenty of blame to go around.

i do too

We have been having issues running the ball all year long. I believe it is the biggest issue for Drew. Just my opinion. We can't even keep defenses honest with that pathetic excuse for a run game. And hey, heres an idea- maybe run something beside off guard once and a while?

Um...we've had issues running the ball for a decade.

Maybe he should be benched. We'll see what happens.

actually kreutz is one of our better linemen this season

hes continuing to open lanes for drew to step up even when our tackles are letting pressure get around the edge and hes actually an upgrade from goodwin in the run game

DLP didnt play any better...what did happen was we played 2 pretty poor run defenses when kreutz was out. tampa is actually pretty good at stopping the run and it showed against us as well

De La Puente seems more effective.

Perhaps Sean's other senses get enhanced with this pedestrian set back.
The backs all look healthy, but they can't even get to the line of scrimmage sometimes.
Especially on short yardage, predetermined run situations. Its rediculous.
I just don't think Payton puts the same amount of energy into the run schemes, and it shows.
Most run plays look like a rugby scuffle with us coming up on the short end of the whistle.
Now, we've got a bunch of new blood up front on both sides of the ball.
Both brand new and refurbished talent trying to pick up on how SP/GW does things.
Perhaps it may take more than six weeks or so for them to gel as cohesive units.
Maybe Sean Payton does need to make some changes.
Maybe Ivory doesn't even need blocking up front to get 6-8.
Maybe Tom Johnson gets his game breath and starts clearing the middle like a black hole.
Maybe the whole group is finally sick and tired of being sick and tired of playing sickly and tired.
Let's see how they handle a sick and tired, winless Colts team.

I think the offensive line is lacking in leadership. Stinch was the leader of the O-line and no one has stepped up to take on that role. Thought it would be Evans, but that's not happening. I know it is Drew's team, but each group has it's own leader, it is time for somebody to step up.

They're mediocre. 18TH in the NFL, and 9th in the NFC. Not horrible, not great. Okay.

I am not going to blame all this on Kreutz, but you guys may be on to something. The entire front line, for whatever reason, is a complete mess right now. It is very alarming that Drew Brees has all of a sudden popped up to 8 interceptions for the year, the running game is being stuffed way too much, and the leading pass catchers on the team is a tight end and running back. Ouch, not to mention Brees is on pace for 704 attempted passes.

Basically it all pretty much means is Brees is throwing way too many times, which leads to interceptions, no running game causes Brees to throw too many times, then has to dump it off to safety valves because there is really no time to set up. Really points to the o-line at this point.

Believe me, turn the o-line around, which will get the running game going, which will allow time for Brees to get it to his wide receivers, and then miraculously the defense and Gregg Williams no longer look like idiots...

i thought the same thing. id rather de la puenta also

The whole line seems soft with no leader. Drew has been under pressure from lesser D's and it's getting old watching "the three headed monster" run into walls., it's a wasted down and thus we lead the league in 3rd down conversions. Have not been impressed with Kreutz, but can't single him out as the problem.

To follow up on your sentiment... I thought that it was weird that Kreutz immediately was wearing the captain's patch in the season opener against the Packers, because I would've thought that, for example, one of the guards would've stepped up as the leader - of the O-line at least.


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But I can't recall Kreutz having the patch anymore, so he must have lost it somewhere along the way... anyway, I thought that Brees, Vilma, and Roby were the captains of the 3 teams, but I know Smith has also worn the C at times.

And to comment on the original question of the thread - I would like to see DLP take that center position from Kreutz simply because he was able to create push from the middle, which Kreutz hasn't been able to do in any of the games he has played for the Saints. This was one of the biggest complaints the Bears' fans also had about him... being undersized and getting pushed back or even on to his back by the D-linemen.

I never heard his name he must be good, De La Puente seems more effective.

but he is a Caption... hahaha um idk Im not impressed with our O-line in General....

Maybe we miss Goodwin more than we thought we would. Niners are 5-1 and running the ball very well.

Good point .. i talked about this the other day in another thread ..we lose Goody..Stinch...and the cohesiveness of the line..

I hope the coaches let DLP play..we were running the ball better with him in there....and he wasn't getting blown off the ball like Kreutz...we seemed to have a little chemistry going . Why fix what wasn't broken?

Also, I am not sure if the details of Kreutz's contract have been released, but I recall it being 2M + another 2M if certain conditions are met. If those certain conditions were... for example, tied to how many games he starts this season - the Saints could potentially save 2M by starting DLP instead of Kreutz.

I know the conditions are probably performance based in another way, and that it would be kind of a rotten deal for the Saints to screw him over in such a way if it was the type of a deal I mentioned above, but in the end it is a business and if DLP can at least be as effective as Kreutz - I wouldn't see a problem with benching Kreutz.

Well, chicago did let him go. If he was all that, seems they would have fought harder to re-sign him. Once again, whats up with Tennant? Thought he was ready to go!

Any Kreutz news lately? Did we bench him? Is he still passionate? How are his finances? :)

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disagree

Kreutz apparently did not think he was playing any better.

All a moot point now!

I guess this question is moot now - Olin is gone. Do we know exactly why??