Also since 06 we have a superbowl and a nfc championship appearance..so even adding Reggie as good pick is not all that crazy...if you look at the overall results..JMHO

i am with u 100%
reggie bush was a great pick, how many times has it been ironed into peoples minds that when the texans left one off the greatest college players ever for a city that was in need of a miricle. i would bet 99.9% of the black and gold nation went nuts when it happened. now its over hes gone and through with, and we came out in dam good shape after 2006. i just don't see why he was'nt a great pick in 06 to some people .a lot of the younger generation never had to endure the early years of, well embarrasing football with picks, les kelly, kevin hardy, roy smith, kurt shoumacker, larry burton.joe cambell,russel erxabin a punter, shawn knight, j. sullivan, alex molden. reggie bush will not be in this group it won't happen.

Ingram can only carry one football at a time. One touch at a time. More touches are only going to give him more yards, but may or may not improve his yards-per-carry.

I'm underwhelmed, but hopeful.

Give me some Ivory. We'll throw him against defenses until he can't stand up... again. But he'll give you two years' worth of Ingram yards/production in the process!

Alaska

i see what your saying alaska, i'm thinking he gash a few long ones also that could improve the ypc. we will never know if he's that kind of back in seans 3 headed monster playbook. maybe fourheaded coming soon.lol

Well said lummox.

As far as I'm concerned we got Sean Payton in the first round.

jeanpierre, the only thing that's a fail is your topic.

ALL those players, even stallworth and grant, had great moments w/ the saints and contributed plenty.

stallworth wouldve been a lot more productive had it not have been for hamstring issues.

grant was great before we overpaid him and he lost his hard work ethic he had in his earlier years w/ the saints.

the only pick that didnt really EVER do much was jonathon sullivan. i agree, that was a waste of a pick.

all the other guys i have yet to mention, contributed a lot, or are still raw.

i know you're full of hatred and disgust right now because we looked like ****e against the bucs, but, lets not be a total d*ck, alright? we'll rebound in a BIG way against the colts. we'll be ok, buddy, alright? the sky isnt falling quite, yet. just chill out. :)

No team gets this right. Wouldn't picks like Jimmy Graham and Jhari Evans tilt this back th opposite direction? What about Tom Brady? Ingram is no bust, that's silly. Meachem is way better than A LOT of other 1st round WRs....Detroit anyone?

We've done a great job in latter rounds; I'm specifically looking at the first round and there are more misses than hits...

When you look at teams that had built Superbowl Dynasties they had success in the first round...

Example, 49'ers first rounders from 81-94 included Ronnie Lott, Jerry Rice, Harris Barton, Ted Washington, Dana Hall, Dana Stubblefield, Bryant Young, William Floyd; '82, '83, '86, '88 no picks...

Overall we've done better than most in the draft, but it is the First round I'm putting under the microscope and saying WTH? is wrong with the first round scouting?

I think in the last two years we seem to be doing better, but we'll only know that in couple of more years...

The best move we made was Sean Payton and Drew Brees; what the Reggie Bush pick did for South Louisiana was amazing; but whatever scouting is doing to rate these players needs to be reviewed and improved...

Maybe part of it is in the philosophy of the coach and front office, where except for obvious no-brainers (Reggie, Ingram) the Saints tend to shy away from "star" or "media hype" or marquee type players in general. Which coincidentally are usually the ones in the 1st round, that the fantasy geeks pay attention to, and are more expen$ive to sign -- and instead of going for the "marquee names" that the media heads and fantasy wonks drool for, they really like to spend their time and money looking for great athletes, prospects, diamonds in the rough, talent to groom, and players on the cusp of greatness or passed over by other teams. BIG NAME first rounders may be great for fantasy stats, or for selling jerseys, or getting a weak team noticed by the media, but if you look at how this team operates, it's only one part of the picture for them. I don't think of the 1st round in the draft as being especially more important to the Saints overall team structure than any other part of the process of acquiring talent, in fact it's maybe even a little LESS so than it is with other teams... you look at all these picks in hindsight, and you really think it's weak scouting, dude -- you don't see that maybe it's part of the organization's philosophy? Especially regarding $$$ and bang for the buck.

With a few noteworthy exceptions, the Saints don't like throwing piles of money at unproven talent that has been overhyped and given extensive media spin and coverage: they just don't. They also tend to avoid divas, "head cases" and oversize 22-year-old man-boy egos looking for payday, whenever they can. The no-names and coaching projects, the under-the-radars and middle round picks, and guys largely overlooked by the media and other teams, that's pretty much the heart and core of this team. If you are putting the first round under a microscope, and wondering where the BIG NAMES and big fantasy stats are, then I don't know if you really understand this Saints team and its coaches, or not. Payton himself was an overlooked nobody, both as a scab player and a coach. So was Williams. So was Drew. They almost all are. That's why I think the topic is kinda FAIL, more than the picks.