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WhoDat!656 11-02-2011 11:19 PM

Rams defense held Saints O-line during game
 
Hold it: New Orleans Saints accuse Rams of underhanded tactics - New Orleans Saints Football NFL News - NOLA.com

QBREES9 11-02-2011 11:33 PM

There's holding on every play.

saintfan 11-02-2011 11:38 PM

Sucks if true, but no need for excuses. Man up and with the battle.

Time to move on.

SaintPauly 11-03-2011 01:11 AM

Oh they were chop blocking like every play! They called ONE of them, but it was on almost every running play. I thought Shannahan was their line coach! At least on the offensive side of the ball. Big Sed was landing on his facemask the whole freaking game....

strato 11-03-2011 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 345278)
Oh they were chop blocking like every play! They called ONE of them, but it was on almost every running play. I thought Shannahan was their line coach! At least on the offensive side of the ball. Big Sed was landing on his facemask the whole freaking game....


I saw this to...they watched the Houston tape on us...that's their bread and butter...I saw that game live and got a real good view..Our lineman were actually having to jump over some of the chops...

That style of run blocking is getting popular..we might look into doing it to..you can use smaller lineman and be effective..just take their legs out..its cheap but lethal...i personally dont care for it..but as long as its not called... its going to continue..

Crusader 11-03-2011 02:01 AM

There are methods to counter when the D-line holds, its called blowing them off the line or just swatting their hands away. Or you can get dirty and just school them about it, hit the elbow inside out and make it buckle and that guy wil not be holding ya any more.

jnormand 11-03-2011 10:23 AM

And if they are holding on the offensive side of the ball you can just take the Junior Gallette route and try to take their helment off via facemask. HA!!

73Saint 11-03-2011 10:56 AM

Sounds a little like the Vikings after the 09 NFC Championship

Euphoria 11-03-2011 11:28 AM

Its BS. If you saw the game you'd see Long blowing right past our DE's with hardly any contact at all.

What the excuse for that?

Some of the calls are opinionated... one's ref hold is can be another borderline call.

hagan714 11-03-2011 11:53 AM

yeah yeah yeah i do not want to hear it. you got beat plan and simple. put away the diaper and tighten up the jock straps and get to work

SmashMouth 11-03-2011 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 345325)
yeah yeah yeah i do not want to hear it. you got beat plan and simple. put away the diaper and tighten up the jock straps and get to work

Could not have articulated it better!

Mardigras9 11-03-2011 02:03 PM

Lame excuse, step up against Tampa and shut all us critics up.

Crusader 11-03-2011 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 345313)
And if they are holding on the offensive side of the ball you can just take the Junior Gallette route and try to take their helment off via facemask. HA!!

Its usually more effective to slide the hand up underneath the facemask...

AllSaints 11-03-2011 05:11 PM

ha wow what abunch of babys....

Danno 11-03-2011 05:17 PM

Whiners...

We should have beat them even if they were allowed to hold.

MorningWood 11-04-2011 05:49 AM

Some of you people are just stupid. Duncan went out of his way to point out that the remarks were in response to questions on the topic and that the players specifically said it was no excuse.

And yet, here you idiots are with your dumb comments.

jeanpierre 11-04-2011 07:12 AM

If the start chop-blocking, put a kick to one of their heads and see if they chop-block after that...

Quit whining and exact justice on the field; as my good friend suggests "exchange the diaper for a jock"

FireVenturi 11-04-2011 07:39 AM

no excuses.

i think we should apopt the same strategy on Defense. maybe we would be able to stop somebody....

UK_WhoDat 11-04-2011 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 345265)
...... no need for excuses. Man up .......

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 345284)
There are methods to counter when the D-line holds, its called blowing them off the line or just swatting their hands away. Or you can get dirty and just school them about it, hit the elbow inside out and make it buckle and that guy wil not be holding ya any more.

All this

Euphoria 11-04-2011 09:00 AM

I saw the play where Evans was trying to break the DT's arm, lol.

It looks like they were going off in their different directions to engage others while the rams DT is reaching back to grab or slow Evens up and without looking Evans swings his arm back knowing the arm was in a bad position.

If he came with any more force he could have done some damage to his arm.

You really couldn't call what they were doing holding but they came to play all of them and they were doing everything they could to tie up the Saints O line.

CantonLegend 11-04-2011 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 345284)
There are methods to counter when the D-line holds, its called blowing them off the line or just swatting their hands away. Or you can get dirty and just school them about it, hit the elbow inside out and make it buckle and that guy wil not be holding ya any more.

punching the bicep usually works for us. ever been hit right in the bicep? it hurts like a mother

spkb25 11-04-2011 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MorningWood (Post 345472)
Some of you people are just stupid. Duncan went out of his way to point out that the remarks were in response to questions on the topic and that the players specifically said it was no excuse.

And yet, here you idiots are with your dumb comments.

Now this is what I was getting ready to say after reading all posts, but you did it well before I had to. If you are going to make comments, read the entire article.

" It should be noted, Nicks and Evans were only responding to questions about the tactic, and neither brought the subject up on their own. And both stressed it was not an excuse for their overall performance. "

WhoDat!656 11-04-2011 06:32 PM

Comprehension is key

Danno 11-04-2011 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MorningWood (Post 345472)
Some of you people are just stupid. Duncan went out of his way to point out that the remarks were in response to questions on the topic and that the players specifically said it was no excuse.

And yet, here you idiots are with your dumb comments.

Semantics...

I quote "Still, Nicks and Evans acknowledged the stategy kept them from executing their blocks on linebackers on several plays."

Its the same thing.

Of course, that doesn't mean we aren't stupid idiots.

BringTheWood 11-04-2011 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 345321)
Its BS. If you saw the game you'd see Long blowing right past our DE's with hardly any contact at all.

What the excuse for that?

Some of the calls are opinionated... one's ref hold is can be another borderline call.

Just to point out the error, and add some clarity...

Evans and Nicks are both actually guards. They have nothing to do with Chris Long or how bad the tackles were playing. Also, if you pay attention to the article, he says it more effected their run blocking than it did their pass protection. I mean, Long raped our RT (regardless of who it was at the time) the entire game, and did so very legit-like, but that just has absolutely no relevance to what Nicks and Evans were talking about. I would honestly trust two pro-bowl guards who were asked and didn't provoke the conversation, and even then admitted to an overall bad performance, then just pass it off as whining and try to play father to the team ("We should have played better, there is no excuse! we deserved to lose! HMPH!"). They were probably held, it likely affected the score and our performance, and it sucks to think it would've mattered. The game is over, we should have won regardless, life isn't fair.


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