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aquaboogie 11-18-2011 08:18 AM

Dennis Allen
 
Even though Tim Tebow is getting most of the attention in Denver, Hats of to former Saints assistant defensive secondary and current Broncos Defensive coordinator Dennis Allen. Doing a great Job in Denver. Wish we still had him, but proud that a former Who Dat coach is doing well. Now lets pray that our quality coaches don't continue to be hired away.

Srgt. Hulka 11-18-2011 08:36 AM

I have to agree with you aquaboogie. Denver's defense looked very good last night.

papz 11-18-2011 10:01 AM

Having two of the best pass rushers in the game certainly helps... he has some solid building blocks over there. Good for him.

homerj07 11-18-2011 11:01 AM

They are winning despite Tebow

iceshack149 11-18-2011 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by homerj07 (Post 350221)
They are winning despite Tebow

Despite? They're 4-1 when he starts. He just wins even though it's very unorthodox. Ugly for the first three quarters and then in the fourth quarter, it's Tebow Time.

papz 11-18-2011 12:48 PM

What's ironic is that Tebow is starting out his career much like Orton. Orton was a terrible passer but yet he just kept winning games... ugly.

Srgt. Hulka 11-18-2011 01:13 PM

I'm glad Tebow is winning. And I hope he keeps winning, as long as the Broncos don't play us of coarse. Everybody in the world said that he wasn't good enough to play in the NFL. I hope he proves them all wrong.

saintfan 11-18-2011 01:17 PM

I don't like Tebow. I confess this is because of his college days. I still don't like Tebow, but I gotta admit, after watching him play a few games at the pro level ...

THIS DUDE SUCKS...

Which makes me feel kinda sorry for him...I'm almost feeling so bad for him that I'm pulling for him, which is a complete turnabout for me.

iceshack149 11-18-2011 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 350252)
I don't like Tebow. I confess this is because of his college days. I still don't like Tebow, but I gotta admit, after watching him play a few games at the pro level ...

THIS DUDE SUCKS...

Which makes me feel kinda sorry for him...I'm almost feeling so bad for him that I'm pulling for him, which is a complete turnabout for me.

There are many people in the world feel sorry for, Tim Tebow isn't one of them. He won in college and he's won some games in the NFL.

The guy had everyone in the stands screaming for him all season long and never as loud as last night. He was ecstatic last night.

pinch 11-18-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 350245)
What's ironic is that Tebow is starting out his career much like Orton. Orton was a terrible passer but yet he just kept winning games... ugly.

Yeah but ultimately it never lasts. Whenever a player with an unorthodox style like Tebow is introduced to a sport it takes awhile for teams to figure them out, but once they do it is largely over.

Vince Young's career started out on a tear and look where it lead. I believe Michael Vick had a great rookie campaign, then it slowly deteriorated. Hell even his first year back after jail he caught everyone by surprise again, then it's back to the status quo.

You could say the same thing for other sports as well. Remember that Nomo character in baseball years ago who had an unorthodox style and was unhittable for awhile? But after a month or two hitters adjusted to his style and the rest is history.

IMO, the Broncos have been fortunate over the last few weeks and Tebow has definitely had some heroics, and everyone is buying in. But you just can't sustain weekly comeback victories in this league. Sooner or later the odds are going to catch up with Timmy, and when the fans realize that even with his amazing comebacks they won't be better than .500, the coaches will have to sit him (or get 'sat' themselves).

I'm happy for the kid to have beaten the odds thus far, but I have to be honest, I'm getting a little sick of seeing a Tebow prayer every five seconds. We get it dude, you believe in an invisible man in the sky. I almost wish another player would start praising the devil after a TD or something just to illustrate how ridiculous it is.

papz 11-18-2011 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pinch (Post 350259)

I'm happy for the kid to have beaten the odds thus far, but I have to be honest, I'm getting a little sick of seeing a Tebow prayer every five seconds. We get it dude, you believe in an invisible man in the sky. I almost wish another player would start praising the devil after a TD or something just to illustrate how ridiculous it is.

That's pretty funny... even though you probably didn't mean for it to be.

pinch 11-18-2011 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 350261)
That's pretty funny... even though you probably didn't mean for it to be.

I just think that the NFL is the wrong place to make religious statements. And to be clear, I'm Catholic and go to church myself, but when you reach the point to where you have to make your own personal prayer a spectacle during sporting events it has reached the point of absurdity.

I agree it is pretty funny. I honestly can't think of how one could visibly worship the devil, maybe point to the ground and snarl? If Tebow's career fizzles out are we to assume that Lucifer has defeated him?

To illustrate the absurdity, could you imagine if Usama Young starts visibly worshipping Allah after each pick 6? He crosses the goalline, drops down to his knees in the endzone, starts bowing and chanting Allah Akbar (assumedly pointing toward Mecca, maybe he has a compass?).

Then, all of the Saints players gather around him in the endzone and start bowing, kneeling, yelling 'Allah Akbar!'. Then the camera pans to the sideline again after the PAT and Young is still bowing and chanting 'Allah Akbar' as the announcers fawn over him.

Save it for church dude, its embarrassing.

strato 11-18-2011 02:11 PM

NO church and field...

papz 11-18-2011 02:13 PM

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To illustrate the absurdity, could you imagine if Usama Young starts visibly worshipping Allah after each pick 6? He crosses the goalline, drops down to his knees in the endzone, starts bowing and chanting Allah Akbar (assumedly pointing toward Mecca, maybe he has a compass?).
I'm just imagining these things and it's just cracking me up. You're making my boring afternoon.

I get your point though.

Srgt. Hulka 11-18-2011 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pinch (Post 350265)
To illustrate the absurdity, could you imagine if Usama Young starts visibly worshipping Allah after each pick 6? He crosses the goalline, drops down to his knees in the endzone...

Oh no, you cant do that! That will get you a flag and a 15 yard penalty assessed on the kickoff! Just ask the player who dropped to his knees and saluted ut troops last week.

:doh:

Memnoch_TP 11-18-2011 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 350261)
That's pretty funny... even though you probably didn't mean for it to be.

I want to see it taken one step further. If someone came out and said "Yeah, the drug tests never caught me, but I have been taking steroids." what is gonna happen? BAM, suspended.

So if a player asks for and truly believes that they received divine outside assistance from an all powerful deity... I mean, how is that not cheating?
How can the other team overcome you invoking the power of an all mighty god? Steroids have nothing on that. So, every time a player gives a point up to heaven and gives the glory to god, they should get suspended for cheating.


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Originally Posted by pinch (Post 350265)
I honestly can't think of how one could visibly worship the devil, maybe point to the ground and snarl?

No, point to the ground and give the Devil Sign!

https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/im...PV7_ZH379xCKbk

papz 11-18-2011 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Memnoch_TP (Post 350279)
So if a player asks for and truly believes that they received divine outside assistance from an all powerful deity... I mean, how is that not cheating?
How can the other team overcome you invoking the power of an all mighty god? Steroids have nothing on that. So, every time a player gives a point up to heaven and gives the glory to god, they should get suspended for cheating.


:lol:

papz 11-22-2011 03:01 PM

"I think he's a winner and I respect that about him," Plummer told 910-AM. "I think that when he accepts the fact that we know that he loves Jesus Christ, then I think I'll like him a little better. I don't hate him because of that, I just would rather not have to hear that every time he takes a good snap or makes a good handoff."

Tebow, in his response to the comments, which he said he had not heard about before the interview, said he appreciated Plummer calling him a winner and compared his faith with marriage.

"If you're married and you have a wife and you really love your wife, is it good enough to only say to your wife 'I love her' the day you get married? Or should you tell her every single day when you wake up and every opportunity? That's how I feel about my relationship with Jesus Christ."

Denver Broncos' Tim Tebow responds to John Elway, Jake Plummer remarks - ESPN


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