Vilma's questionable tweets

SaintPauly · 12-30-2011, 02:15 AM

How can you tell the context of what he meant by that? He could have been joking about a friend or something... No news here at all.... She could have taken it all wrong.

WHO_DAT_CAT · 12-30-2011, 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by SaintPauly

How can you tell the context of what he meant by that? He could have been joking about a friend or something... No news here at all.... She could have taken it all wrong.

He said "Grown men should not have female tendencies. Period."
She said "That's a little sexist\homophobic..."
He told her to shut up.
She asked him if he is kidding.
He said "You don't have to read my tweets".

To me, that is utterly straight-forward. Absolutely there is news here. Vilma has a problem with homosexuals or at minimum cross-dressers and was called out on it -- by a woman -- who he promptly told to shut up. She is also a fan so, another bit of news about how Vilma values his fans. And, I don't know if anyone has noticed but, New Orleans has a substantial gay population who are just as devoted Saints fans as anyone else.

But, of course, there are plenty of guys whose masculinity is threatened by feminine type homosexuals. But, frankly, that s**t is just weak.

Either you are heterosexual man or you aren't. Insisting another human being is wrong for being themselves DOES NOT MAKE YOU MORE OF A MAN. Vilma should know that.

I love the Saints and I like Vilma as the leader of the defense. But, I don't have to love or agree with his prejudices.

"Grown men" are respectful and tolerant of differences.

UK_WhoDat · 12-30-2011, 05:00 AM

Originally Posted by WHO_DAT_CAT

......You know grown men, who are fathers, HAVE female tendencies -- like when they nurture their children. ......

I do not see this at all. A man taking care of their offspring is being a father, not feminine.

Originally Posted by WHO_DAT_CAT

.......I don't know if anyone has noticed but, New Orleans has a substantial gay population who are just as devoted Saints fans as anyone else........

I hadn't noticed because I don't go looking. For all I care they can be male / female (in whatever way anyone wishes to define that) or can be asexual / bisexual / heterosexual / homosexual. I don't display or discuss my preferences / bias and I don't need to know anyone else's.

All I care for are this or that person is a "good" person and - oh - are you a Saints fan

To one and all - I wish y'all a healthy and happy New Year. May you get the luck you deserve.

pherein · 12-30-2011, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by WHO_DAT_CAT

He said "Grown men should not have female tendencies. Period."
She said "That's a little sexist\homophobic..."
He told her to shut up.
She asked him if he is kidding.
He said "You don't have to read my tweets".

To me, that is utterly straight-forward. Absolutely there is news here. Vilma has a problem with homosexuals or at minimum cross-dressers and was called out on it -- by a woman -- who he promptly told to shut up. She is also a fan so, another bit of news about how Vilma values his fans. And, I don't know if anyone has noticed but, New Orleans has a substantial gay population who are just as devoted Saints fans as anyone else.

But, of course, there are plenty of guys whose masculinity is threatened by feminine type homosexuals. But, frankly, that s**t is just weak.

Either you are heterosexual man or you aren't. Insisting another human being is wrong for being themselves DOES NOT MAKE YOU MORE OF A MAN. Vilma should know that.

I love the Saints and I like Vilma as the leader of the defense. But, I don't have to love or agree with his prejudices.

You know grown men, who are fathers, HAVE female tendencies -- like when they nurture their children. So, anyway, I think I got Vilma's drift.

hmm. are you the woman that tweeted him

WHO_DAT_CAT · 12-30-2011, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by pherein

hmm. are you the woman that tweeted him

Nope. But, I can LOVE THE SAINTS, and even Vilma, without agreeing with his gender politics or diversity ethics.

I've seen Vilma in interviews and he seems intelligent and articulate. However, I'm not offended. I grew up in New Orleans, and the deep South, so I am used to this kind of gender bias. But, given what minority groups have been through ( including Vilma's minority group ) you would think he would be much more diversity tolerant and respectful.

But, whatever. Vilma is an exceptional football player and has done incredible, amazing things for my team. So, I have a great deal of appreciation for him for that.

Belair57 · 12-30-2011, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by WHO_DAT_CAT

He said "Grown men should not have female tendencies. Period."
She said "That's a little sexist\homophobic..."
He told her to shut up.
She asked him if he is kidding.
He said "You don't have to read my tweets".

To me, that is utterly straight-forward. Absolutely there is news here. Vilma has a problem with homosexuals or at minimum cross-dressers and was called out on it -- by a woman -- who he promptly told to shut up. She is also a fan so, another bit of news about how Vilma values his fans. And, I don't know if anyone has noticed but, New Orleans has a substantial gay population who are just as devoted Saints fans as anyone else.

But, of course, there are plenty of guys whose masculinity is threatened by feminine type homosexuals. But, frankly, that s**t is just weak.

Either you are heterosexual man or you aren't. Insisting another human being is wrong for being themselves DOES NOT MAKE YOU MORE OF A MAN. Vilma should know that.

I love the Saints and I like Vilma as the leader of the defense. But, I don't have to love or agree with his prejudices.

"Grown men" are respectful and tolerant of differences.

dont care who hates me for saying it, but I agree with Vilma...I hope he hates cross dressing queers !!! and if you are on , I dont apoligize

12-30-2011, 02:50 AM	#2
WHO_DAT_CAT 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: California - Bay Area Posts: 386	Originally Posted by SaintPauly How can you tell the context of what he meant by that? He could have been joking about a friend or something... No news here at all.... She could have taken it all wrong. He said "Grown men should not have female tendencies. Period." She said "That's a little sexist\homophobic..." He told her to shut up. She asked him if he is kidding. He said "You don't have to read my tweets". To me, that is utterly straight-forward. Absolutely there is news here. Vilma has a problem with homosexuals or at minimum cross-dressers and was called out on it -- by a woman -- who he promptly told to shut up. She is also a fan so, another bit of news about how Vilma values his fans. And, I don't know if anyone has noticed but, New Orleans has a substantial gay population who are just as devoted Saints fans as anyone else. But, of course, there are plenty of guys whose masculinity is threatened by feminine type homosexuals. But, frankly, that s**t is just weak. Either you are heterosexual man or you aren't. Insisting another human being is wrong for being themselves DOES NOT MAKE YOU MORE OF A MAN. Vilma should know that. I love the Saints and I like Vilma as the leader of the defense. But, I don't have to love or agree with his prejudices. "Grown men" are respectful and tolerant of differences.

12-30-2011, 05:00 AM	#3
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,004	Originally Posted by WHO_DAT_CAT ......You know grown men, who are fathers, HAVE female tendencies -- like when they nurture their children. ...... I do not see this at all. A man taking care of their offspring is being a father, not feminine. Originally Posted by WHO_DAT_CAT .......I don't know if anyone has noticed but, New Orleans has a substantial gay population who are just as devoted Saints fans as anyone else........ I hadn't noticed because I don't go looking. For all I care they can be male / female (in whatever way anyone wishes to define that) or can be asexual / bisexual / heterosexual / homosexual. I don't display or discuss my preferences / bias and I don't need to know anyone else's. All I care for are this or that person is a "good" person and - oh - are you a Saints fan To one and all - I wish y'all a healthy and happy New Year. May you get the luck you deserve. saintfan and \|Mitch\| like this.
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12-30-2011, 08:05 AM	#4
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by WHO_DAT_CAT He said "Grown men should not have female tendencies. Period." She said "That's a little sexist\homophobic..." He told her to shut up. She asked him if he is kidding. He said "You don't have to read my tweets". To me, that is utterly straight-forward. Absolutely there is news here. Vilma has a problem with homosexuals or at minimum cross-dressers and was called out on it -- by a woman -- who he promptly told to shut up. She is also a fan so, another bit of news about how Vilma values his fans. And, I don't know if anyone has noticed but, New Orleans has a substantial gay population who are just as devoted Saints fans as anyone else. But, of course, there are plenty of guys whose masculinity is threatened by feminine type homosexuals. But, frankly, that s**t is just weak. Either you are heterosexual man or you aren't. Insisting another human being is wrong for being themselves DOES NOT MAKE YOU MORE OF A MAN. Vilma should know that. I love the Saints and I like Vilma as the leader of the defense. But, I don't have to love or agree with his prejudices. You know grown men, who are fathers, HAVE female tendencies -- like when they nurture their children. So, anyway, I think I got Vilma's drift. hmm. are you the woman that tweeted him

12-30-2011, 05:15 PM	#5
WHO_DAT_CAT 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: California - Bay Area Posts: 386	Originally Posted by pherein hmm. are you the woman that tweeted him Nope. But, I can LOVE THE SAINTS, and even Vilma, without agreeing with his gender politics or diversity ethics. I've seen Vilma in interviews and he seems intelligent and articulate. However, I'm not offended. I grew up in New Orleans, and the deep South, so I am used to this kind of gender bias. But, given what minority groups have been through ( including Vilma's minority group ) you would think he would be much more diversity tolerant and respectful. But, whatever. Vilma is an exceptional football player and has done incredible, amazing things for my team. So, I have a great deal of appreciation for him for that.

12-30-2011, 11:12 PM	#6
Belair57 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 848	Originally Posted by WHO_DAT_CAT He said "Grown men should not have female tendencies. Period." She said "That's a little sexist\homophobic..." He told her to shut up. She asked him if he is kidding. He said "You don't have to read my tweets". To me, that is utterly straight-forward. Absolutely there is news here. Vilma has a problem with homosexuals or at minimum cross-dressers and was called out on it -- by a woman -- who he promptly told to shut up. She is also a fan so, another bit of news about how Vilma values his fans. And, I don't know if anyone has noticed but, New Orleans has a substantial gay population who are just as devoted Saints fans as anyone else. But, of course, there are plenty of guys whose masculinity is threatened by feminine type homosexuals. But, frankly, that s**t is just weak. Either you are heterosexual man or you aren't. Insisting another human being is wrong for being themselves DOES NOT MAKE YOU MORE OF A MAN. Vilma should know that. I love the Saints and I like Vilma as the leader of the defense. But, I don't have to love or agree with his prejudices. "Grown men" are respectful and tolerant of differences. dont care who hates me for saying it, but I agree with Vilma...I hope he hates cross dressing queers !!! and if you are on , I dont apoligize
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12-30-2011, 02:15 AM	#1
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	How can you tell the context of what he meant by that? He could have been joking about a friend or something... No news here at all.... She could have taken it all wrong.

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