greg williams is a dumb @ss!!

halloween 65 · 01-14-2012, 08:26 PM

If someone watches the OLD JACKSONVILLE TAPES thats what our D has come to. I thank Williams for what he has done but as long as he is here this is what we will get. Jacksonville was the same way when it mattered the most they fell short also.

mike27 · 01-14-2012, 08:28 PM

I was thinking finally, we're going to score without a fumble right away, and giving away points, but nope...3 yard line, and a helmet to helmet hit on a defenseless receiver (not sure if that applies to Thomas, but they slo-moed it, and it was), caused the penalty and the fumble. No such luck, 7 on fumble, another 7 on interception, and 3 more later.

You can't really fault the defense--if you give up all those turnovers, you're going to have a tough time winning. I'm just surprised we stayed in the game for so long.

Thomas was likely going to be our tough runner of the game, and "bam" he's out right away almost.

Sorry, I can't fault the D here--this was on the offense.

Boutte · 01-14-2012, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by mike27

I was thinking finally, we're going to score without a fumble right away, and giving away points, but nope...3 yard line, and a helmet to helmet hit on a defenseless receiver (not sure if that applies to Thomas, but they slo-moed it, and it was), caused the penalty and the fumble. No such luck, 7 on fumble, another 7 on interception, and 3 more later.

You can't really fault the defense--if you give up all those turnovers, you're going to have a tough time winning. I'm just surprised we stayed in the game for so long.

Thomas was likely going to be our tough runner of the game, and "bam" he's out right away almost.

Sorry, I can't fault the D here--this was on the offense.

We scored 34 points! The D lost this. How can anyone possibly not see that?

saintsfan1976 · 01-14-2012, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

We scored 34 points! The D lost this. How can anyone possibly not see that?

5 turnovers. That's how.

Halo · 01-14-2012, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

5 turnovers. That's how.

5? I counted 6.... silly me for losing count.... we were turning the ball over so much I thought I was watching a Jim Haslett coached team....

Boutte · 01-14-2012, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

5 turnovers. That's how.

OK, that's a valid point. But do you put any of the blame on Gregg Williams? Is he the guy you want long term as the DC?

saintsfan1976 · 01-14-2012, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

OK, that's a valid point. But do you put any of the blame on Gregg Williams? Is he the guy you want long term as the DC?

Yes. His play call led to Vernon Davis's gain that lead to Alex Smith's TD.

Is he a long term DC? No. But we knew that when he was hired.

Halo · 01-14-2012, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

We scored 34 points! The D lost this. How can anyone possibly not see that?

Regardless of the points Boutte, regardless of how many players redeemed themselves.... YOU CANNOT TURN THE BALL OVER 6 TIMES IN AN NFL GAME AND EXPECT TO WIN JACK SQUAT.

The D did lose this game, but Drew threw some picks, Sproles and others holding the ball like a loaf of Bunny Bread (in a divisional playoff against the best D in the league) didn't help, I'm sure.

I'm shocked we were even in the game at halftime.

Danno · 01-14-2012, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

We scored 34 points! The D lost this. How can anyone possibly not see that?

Agreed

San Fran averages 23 points and 310 yards per game

Versus the Saints - 36 points and 407 yards

Our Defense stunk it up.

saintsfan1976 · 01-15-2012, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Agreed

San Fran averages 23 points and 310 yards per game

Versus the Saints - 36 points and 407 yards

Our Defense stunk it up.

Because we gave them 6 more free chances to beat us....

01-14-2012, 09:16 PM	#3
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Originally Posted by mike27 I was thinking finally, we're going to score without a fumble right away, and giving away points, but nope...3 yard line, and a helmet to helmet hit on a defenseless receiver (not sure if that applies to Thomas, but they slo-moed it, and it was), caused the penalty and the fumble. No such luck, 7 on fumble, another 7 on interception, and 3 more later. You can't really fault the defense--if you give up all those turnovers, you're going to have a tough time winning. I'm just surprised we stayed in the game for so long. Thomas was likely going to be our tough runner of the game, and "bam" he's out right away almost. Sorry, I can't fault the D here--this was on the offense. We scored 34 points! The D lost this. How can anyone possibly not see that?

01-14-2012, 09:19 PM	#4
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,059 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Boutte We scored 34 points! The D lost this. How can anyone possibly not see that? 5 turnovers. That's how.

01-14-2012, 09:25 PM	#5
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,907 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 5 turnovers. That's how. 5? I counted 6.... silly me for losing count.... we were turning the ball over so much I thought I was watching a Jim Haslett coached team....

01-14-2012, 09:32 PM	#6
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 5 turnovers. That's how. OK, that's a valid point. But do you put any of the blame on Gregg Williams? Is he the guy you want long term as the DC?

01-14-2012, 09:35 PM	#7
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,059 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Boutte OK, that's a valid point. But do you put any of the blame on Gregg Williams? Is he the guy you want long term as the DC? Yes. His play call led to Vernon Davis's gain that lead to Alex Smith's TD. Is he a long term DC? No. But we knew that when he was hired.

01-14-2012, 08:26 PM	#1
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	If someone watches the OLD JACKSONVILLE TAPES thats what our D has come to. I thank Williams for what he has done but as long as he is here this is what we will get. Jacksonville was the same way when it mattered the most they fell short also.

01-14-2012, 08:28 PM	#2
mike27 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 104 Blog Entries: 2	I was thinking finally, we're going to score without a fumble right away, and giving away points, but nope...3 yard line, and a helmet to helmet hit on a defenseless receiver (not sure if that applies to Thomas, but they slo-moed it, and it was), caused the penalty and the fumble. No such luck, 7 on fumble, another 7 on interception, and 3 more later. You can't really fault the defense--if you give up all those turnovers, you're going to have a tough time winning. I'm just surprised we stayed in the game for so long. Thomas was likely going to be our tough runner of the game, and "bam" he's out right away almost. Sorry, I can't fault the D here--this was on the offense.

01-14-2012, 09:23 PM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by Boutte We scored 34 points! The D lost this. How can anyone possibly not see that? Agreed San Fran averages 23 points and 310 yards per game Versus the Saints - 36 points and 407 yards Our Defense stunk it up.

01-15-2012, 09:26 AM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,059 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Danno Agreed San Fran averages 23 points and 310 yards per game Versus the Saints - 36 points and 407 yards Our Defense stunk it up. Because we gave them 6 more free chances to beat us....

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