Saints New D Coordinator Search [MEGA-MERGE]

W. Kovacs · 01-16-2012, 09:04 PM

I'm afraid I don't know much about individual DCs so I'll just say this:

I want someone who will get our guys to HIT and jam guys off the line. Watching Mike and Mike on ESPN2 this morning seeing Davis just fly off the line, then blow through tackles made me sick. I know it was just highlights that were being shown over and over and it didn't actually happen THAT much but when it did, it really cost us.

Also, no Wade Phillips: I don't want that dang Flutie Curse anywhere near our team.

westbankdaze · 01-16-2012, 09:36 PM

I like spags because I like his personality. Del rio just doesn't do it for me. Too serious. I think spags and Payton could have a good chemistry but I don't feel the same with del rio and Payton.

Halo · 01-16-2012, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by westbankdaze

I like spags because I like his personality. Del rio just doesn't do it for me. Too serious. I think spags and Payton could have a good chemistry but I don't feel the same with del rio and Payton.

I kind of agree. Del Rio has an ego and we don't want anyone to overshadow SP. That's why Gregg Williams was SO GOOD, he knew he was a DC.

We really need somebody who wants to be a DC.

gandhi1007 · 01-17-2012, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by westbankdaze

Del rio just doesn't do it for me. Too serious.

That's exactly what we need! Someone who takes his defense & improving his defense SERIOUSLY!

subguy · 01-17-2012, 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint

I personally would love to have "Chucky" John Gruden but I think he will stay with ESPN. What are your thoughts?

I think Gruden will stay put with his new contract that I heard is about 4.5 mil per year

QBREES9 · 01-17-2012, 12:27 AM

I'm going for Del Rio or Spags.

pherein · 01-17-2012, 01:45 AM

Im over names

Chuck Pagano -Ravens
Dick Jauron - Browns
Mel Tucker - Seahawks

Look at the top defenses in the NFL
2011 NFL Opposition & Defensive Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

We don't need cute names. We need a real defense. Rio or Spags, are just names.They haven't been DC's for years now. Who is producing now, not who was great in 1995.

We have a consistent top #10 defense, we can beat anyone. People get so goofy with the names after all who was SP before he created the best offense sense 2006.

mighty12 · 01-17-2012, 06:15 AM

Originally Posted by pherein

We don't need cute names. We need a real defense. Rio or Spags, are just names.They haven't been DC's for years now. Who is producing now, not who was great in 1995.

Del Rio began his coaching career with the New Orleans Saints in 1997 as the Strength and Conditioning coach. In 1999, he accepted a position with the Baltimore Ravens as their linebackers coach. He is in part credited for the success of the Ravens' defense, particularly the 2000 Ravens' defense. After the 2001 season, he was named defensive coordinator of the Carolina Panthers. In his first season as defensive coordinator, he led them to the second best defense in the league that season.

Fact is Del Rio has relatively recent success as a DC, 2001 really isn't that far off, and it kind of reminds me of what Wade Phillips was able to do ala Houston.

FinSaint · 01-17-2012, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by pherein

Im over names

Chuck Pagano -Ravens
Dick Jauron - Browns
Mel Tucker - Seahawks

Look at the top defenses in the NFL
2011 NFL Opposition & Defensive Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

We don't need cute names. We need a real defense. Rio or Spags, are just names.They haven't been DC's for years now. Who is producing now, not who was great in 1995.

We have a consistent top #10 defense, we can beat anyone. People get so goofy with the names after all who was SP before he created the best offense sense 2006.

There's no way Pagano leaves the Ravens and if we are just throwing names around I might as well say that the Saints should sign Dick LeBeau.

Out of the realistic targets I like Spags, because he was the one who pretty much made the Giants' defensive front into the beast it is today - I would sure like to see the Saints' defensive front get more pressure without having to bring the extra man to blitz all of the time.

If not Spags, I would like to see them sign Nolan over Del Rio, because Nolan is much more inventive in his schemes and has the ability to surprise offenses even in the latter weeks of the season when the opposition already has tons of film to watch and prepare. And best of all, his inventiveness does not involve just coming up with exotic blitz packages like it seemed to have boiled down to with GW.

I also wonder if Sharper would be interested in a secondary coaching position?

SaintsRule11 · 01-17-2012, 02:00 AM

I wish we could get Wade Phillips but I don't think he can be ripped away from Houston. I wouldn't mind Del Rio. Or Spags.

01-16-2012, 09:36 PM	#2
westbankdaze 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 843	I like spags because I like his personality. Del rio just doesn't do it for me. Too serious. I think spags and Payton could have a good chemistry but I don't feel the same with del rio and Payton. Halo and W. Kovacs like this.
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01-16-2012, 09:40 PM	#3
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,907 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by westbankdaze I like spags because I like his personality. Del rio just doesn't do it for me. Too serious. I think spags and Payton could have a good chemistry but I don't feel the same with del rio and Payton. I kind of agree. Del Rio has an ego and we don't want anyone to overshadow SP. That's why Gregg Williams was SO GOOD, he knew he was a DC. We really need somebody who wants to be a DC.

01-17-2012, 12:23 AM	#4
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by westbankdaze Del rio just doesn't do it for me. Too serious. That's exactly what we need! Someone who takes his defense & improving his defense SERIOUSLY!

01-17-2012, 12:26 AM	#5
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,104	Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint I personally would love to have "Chucky" John Gruden but I think he will stay with ESPN. What are your thoughts? I think Gruden will stay put with his new contract that I heard is about 4.5 mil per year

01-17-2012, 01:45 AM	#7
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Im over names Chuck Pagano -Ravens Dick Jauron - Browns Mel Tucker - Seahawks Look at the top defenses in the NFL 2011 NFL Opposition & Defensive Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com We don't need cute names. We need a real defense. Rio or Spags, are just names.They haven't been DC's for years now. Who is producing now, not who was great in 1995. We have a consistent top #10 defense, we can beat anyone. People get so goofy with the names after all who was SP before he created the best offense sense 2006. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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01-16-2012, 09:04 PM	#1
W. Kovacs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 514	I'm afraid I don't know much about individual DCs so I'll just say this: I want someone who will get our guys to HIT and jam guys off the line. Watching Mike and Mike on ESPN2 this morning seeing Davis just fly off the line, then blow through tackles made me sick. I know it was just highlights that were being shown over and over and it didn't actually happen THAT much but when it did, it really cost us. Also, no Wade Phillips: I don't want that dang Flutie Curse anywhere near our team.

01-17-2012, 12:27 AM	#6
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	I'm going for Del Rio or Spags.

01-17-2012, 06:15 AM	#8
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by pherein We don't need cute names. We need a real defense. Rio or Spags, are just names.They haven't been DC's for years now. Who is producing now, not who was great in 1995. Del Rio began his coaching career with the New Orleans Saints in 1997 as the Strength and Conditioning coach. In 1999, he accepted a position with the Baltimore Ravens as their linebackers coach. He is in part credited for the success of the Ravens' defense, particularly the 2000 Ravens' defense. After the 2001 season, he was named defensive coordinator of the Carolina Panthers. In his first season as defensive coordinator, he led them to the second best defense in the league that season. Fact is Del Rio has relatively recent success as a DC, 2001 really isn't that far off, and it kind of reminds me of what Wade Phillips was able to do ala Houston.

01-17-2012, 10:02 AM	#9
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Originally Posted by pherein Im over names Chuck Pagano -Ravens Dick Jauron - Browns Mel Tucker - Seahawks Look at the top defenses in the NFL 2011 NFL Opposition & Defensive Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com We don't need cute names. We need a real defense. Rio or Spags, are just names.They haven't been DC's for years now. Who is producing now, not who was great in 1995. We have a consistent top #10 defense, we can beat anyone. People get so goofy with the names after all who was SP before he created the best offense sense 2006. There's no way Pagano leaves the Ravens and if we are just throwing names around I might as well say that the Saints should sign Dick LeBeau. Out of the realistic targets I like Spags, because he was the one who pretty much made the Giants' defensive front into the beast it is today - I would sure like to see the Saints' defensive front get more pressure without having to bring the extra man to blitz all of the time. If not Spags, I would like to see them sign Nolan over Del Rio, because Nolan is much more inventive in his schemes and has the ability to surprise offenses even in the latter weeks of the season when the opposition already has tons of film to watch and prepare. And best of all, his inventiveness does not involve just coming up with exotic blitz packages like it seemed to have boiled down to with GW. I also wonder if Sharper would be interested in a secondary coaching position? Rugby Saint II likes this.
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01-17-2012, 02:00 AM	#10
SaintsRule11 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 277	I wish we could get Wade Phillips but I don't think he can be ripped away from Houston. I wouldn't mind Del Rio. Or Spags.
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