Eli is elite... maybe on the tail end of it but he is.

There isn't a whole lot of QB's with rings... he has two and counting.

Its not about scaring someone its about winning!!!

Besides elite, I think he's a very fancy dancer

... and I think that's what makes people hesitate to call Eli 'elite', he wins ugly ... kinda' like a Tebow with talent or good mechanics ...

After this win, I think it's fair to to put him up there with Brady, Brees, Rodgers & Peyton ... he may not have the finesse, but he's got the characteristics you want in your QB and you can't argue with (2) SuperBowl rings.

Eli is elite and belongs in the Brady, Brees, Rodgers group. I might just add Stafford, but in my opinion Rivers doesn´t belong there anymore!

Rivers? No, it just didn't pan out for him, he's gonna' be in there with the Dan Marino debate ... now Stafford, he's knocking at the door and is one to watch ... plenty of potential, but he has to show he can do it for more then one season and win something first. Of all the newer QB's in the league, I like him best, but maybe I'm a little biased ... :mrgreen:

All I am gonna say about all the other QB being mentioned in this thread is, people wouldn't call Brees Elite until he won a SB. Just Saying.

Eli played a lot better this year, his decision making got better and so on - hes is legit.

No ring = Not elite.

Nonsense

Maybe so but it is the way it is. Thank the media.

Disagree completely.
Sincerely,
Dan Marino
Warren Moon
Jim Kelly
Archie Manning
Fran Tarkenton
George Blanda
Roman Gabriel
Sonny Jergunsen
YA Tittle
Dan Fouts

No Eil is not elite
Elite should means top 10% of starting QB's in the NFL.

1.)Brees
2.)Rogers
3.)P. Manning (if healthy) if not Brady

This is our discussion, not the media's.
Eli is a great QB. With the team winning the Superbowl it helps his case for being labeled "great."

Arguing that great QB's without rings are not great is a fallacy and poor logic.

#1 I know this is our discussion k thanks.
#2 I am not arguing ANYTHING. All I know is NO ONE wanted to call Drew elite in 2006 - 2008. It took him winning the SB in 2009 to START getting mentioned as elite and again, I am not talking about us as fans.

So people mentioning names like Newton as elite is just moronic. (no offense to whoever said that)

I blame John Clayton who wants to extend the "elite" moniker all the way down to Matt Ryan. :brood:

Eli is elite.

When the postseason comes, he has been clutch - twice, not a fluke.

Yes, he's elite.

His numbers are right there with the best - and he's sharing the ball in a balanced offense.

Found this for comparison sake...you be the judge.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/footba...30-1.3493231#2

[QUOTE=CharityMike;376474So people mentioning names like Newton as elite is just moronic. (no offense to whoever said that)[/QUOTE]

I mentioned Newton as a potential Elite "B".

Like him or not for the whole Auburn thing.... The kid is a player. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of his. But I do recognize ability when I see it. He had a great year for a Rookie QB. If....IF he keeps up that performance and gets better; he will be a QB to fear.

Almost 5,000 passing and rushing yards. He's finished 10th in passing yards.

When I think of Elite QB's; I think of QB's that you want to have the ball in their hands when the game is on the line.

No offense taken, by the way.

Eli is a top 5 QB in the league. Does that make him elite? I don't think so. The elite status belongs to guys like Brady, Brees, Peyton Manning, & maybe.....maybe Aaron Rodgers if he puts up a few more big years. Warren Moon put up big numbers & won big games. Was he elite? My opinion is NO......same as Eli.

I would probably place Moon in the ELITE category. He was a much better QB than Eli is now, and imagine his numbers if he played his entire pro-career in the NFL. For those that don't remember he spent 6 years setting records in the CFL before he came into the NFL.

He was certainly elite in my eyes.

His turnover ratio alone leaves him out of the Elite category in my eyes. Moon turned the ball over alot.

He did do that, but he also ran the Run and shoot. That didn't help.

I'm with Danno on Warren Moon.

He's the reason I liked Houston. Reason why Houston is still my "Saints" of the AFC.

......but hey.....he's a Hall of Famer. ;-)

I went to a lot of Oiler games.... Believe me, the Oilers were "the Saints of the AFC." They both even had playoff collapses on the same day.

Ah man! That's ACNE :mrgreen: