Saints D-Line: Who Stays, Who Goes

halloween 65 · 02-08-2012, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Ashley

I bet Will Smith will take a cut to stick around. No way will he want to play anywhere else. Cam and Galette steps up, the rest are journeymen.
See ya

Might be no other team would want him, he surely doen't deserve the money he is getting. I really don't know if I would offer him back-up money to stay. Pay the money to someone else that actually deserves it. Same for Vilma they both need to be humbled and Ellis to.

jcp026 · 02-08-2012, 08:49 AM

Will Smith takes a pay cut. Sed Ellis takes a pay cut.
The fate of Franklin and Rogers depend on who else we're able to bring in.
Cut Jordan some slack. God****, if our first round picks aren't instantly All-Pro then they must be awful.
Galette stays.
McBride's fate is tied to whatever his price tag ends up being.
Hopefully a healthy Romeus can contribute.
Crick (3rd round) and Wolfe (5th round) will be key contributors.

RaginCajun83 · 02-08-2012, 08:51 AM

If Loomis can make the cap hit work then cut Will Smith, Saints need to cut some of this overpaid under performing weight on defense to keep the key free agents they have this year

Supertek · 02-08-2012, 03:31 PM

Smith, Ellis, Rogers gone

jcp026 · 02-08-2012, 04:08 PM

You guys are really quick to get rid of, for better or worse, our best d-linemen. If we don't have a better option, and at this point I'm not sure we do, cleaning house is a terrible idea.

FinSaint · 02-08-2012, 05:02 PM

We better hope that some other team wants him if the Saints end up cutting him!

Many seem to forget that it is not free to cut players and also cutting many players while they still have multiple years to go on their contracts doesn't really send a positive message to potential FA signings - it says that the Saints' organization does not honor the contracts they make with players.

Finding a way through negotiations which will both benefit the Saints' organization, but also the individual players is the key, and if that is done in a civil and reasonable way - I see no problems with the Saints being able to field a good outfit on the D next season.

gandhi1007 · 02-08-2012, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Many seem to forget that it is not free to cut players and also cutting many players while they still have multiple years to go on their contracts doesn't really send a positive message to potential FA signings - it says that the Saints' organization does not honor the contracts they make with players.

It also says....if you do not play up to your contract, you could be looking for a job.....something I'm okay with.

FinSaint · 02-08-2012, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

It also says....if you do not play up to your contract, you could be looking for a job.....something I'm okay with.

But if that is the concern, why aren't the contracts more incentive based in the first place, which would in effect make the players earn their extra salary through performance?

gandhi1007 · 02-08-2012, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

But if that is the concern, why aren't the contracts more incentive based in the first place, which would in effect make the players earn their extra salary through performance?

Because Master P isn't writing up contracts anymore! C'mon, Fin,.....everybody knows that.

Kryptonite · 02-10-2012, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

Because Master P isn't writing up contracts anymore! C'mon, Fin,.....everybody knows that.

UUUUHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

02-08-2012, 04:26 PM	#1
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Originally Posted by Ashley I bet Will Smith will take a cut to stick around. No way will he want to play anywhere else. Cam and Galette steps up, the rest are journeymen. See ya Might be no other team would want him, he surely doen't deserve the money he is getting. I really don't know if I would offer him back-up money to stay. Pay the money to someone else that actually deserves it. Same for Vilma they both need to be humbled and Ellis to.

02-08-2012, 08:49 AM	#2
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 955	Will Smith takes a pay cut. Sed Ellis takes a pay cut. The fate of Franklin and Rogers depend on who else we're able to bring in. Cut Jordan some slack. God****, if our first round picks aren't instantly All-Pro then they must be awful. Galette stays. McBride's fate is tied to whatever his price tag ends up being. Hopefully a healthy Romeus can contribute. Crick (3rd round) and Wolfe (5th round) will be key contributors.
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02-08-2012, 08:51 AM	#3
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	If Loomis can make the cap hit work then cut Will Smith, Saints need to cut some of this overpaid under performing weight on defense to keep the key free agents they have this year halloween 65 likes this.

02-08-2012, 04:08 PM	#5
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 955	You guys are really quick to get rid of, for better or worse, our best d-linemen. If we don't have a better option, and at this point I'm not sure we do, cleaning house is a terrible idea. Danno likes this.
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02-08-2012, 05:02 PM	#6
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	We better hope that some other team wants him if the Saints end up cutting him! Many seem to forget that it is not free to cut players and also cutting many players while they still have multiple years to go on their contracts doesn't really send a positive message to potential FA signings - it says that the Saints' organization does not honor the contracts they make with players. Finding a way through negotiations which will both benefit the Saints' organization, but also the individual players is the key, and if that is done in a civil and reasonable way - I see no problems with the Saints being able to field a good outfit on the D next season. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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02-08-2012, 03:31 PM	#4
Supertek 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Harvey La. Posts: 611	Smith, Ellis, Rogers gone

02-08-2012, 05:31 PM	#7
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by FinSaint Many seem to forget that it is not free to cut players and also cutting many players while they still have multiple years to go on their contracts doesn't really send a positive message to potential FA signings - it says that the Saints' organization does not honor the contracts they make with players. It also says....if you do not play up to your contract, you could be looking for a job.....something I'm okay with. Ashley and halloween 65 like this.

02-08-2012, 05:51 PM	#8
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Originally Posted by gandhi1007 It also says....if you do not play up to your contract, you could be looking for a job.....something I'm okay with. But if that is the concern, why aren't the contracts more incentive based in the first place, which would in effect make the players earn their extra salary through performance?

02-08-2012, 06:21 PM	#9
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by FinSaint But if that is the concern, why aren't the contracts more incentive based in the first place, which would in effect make the players earn their extra salary through performance? Because Master P isn't writing up contracts anymore! C'mon, Fin,.....everybody knows that. Kryptonite likes this.

02-10-2012, 09:34 AM	#10
Kryptonite DAMMIT BOY! Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Crestview, FL via S'port LA Posts: 197	Originally Posted by gandhi1007 Because Master P isn't writing up contracts anymore! C'mon, Fin,.....everybody knows that. UUUUHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

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