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Old 02-07-2012, 09:50 AM   #1
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I took a quick look at the Giants' roster from 2008 to determine some of the average physical attributes different defenders had on Spags' D back then. Certainly this doesn't give us any real guidelines as to what he looks for in a player at a certain spot, since he wasn't drafting or signing these guys. But, still, I think it can at least tell us something about what type of an average player he used that year on certain positions while having great success against offenses as a whole.

The average DT was 6-4 and 309 lbs

The average DE was 6.4 and 269 lbs

The average LB was 6.2 and 240 lbs


As for the Saints roster from last year...

For DTs only Rogers (6-4 ,350), Miller (6-4, 310), and Johnson (6-3, 288) are close to that average, and Rogers is quite a lot over-weight to have the quickness Spags looks for. Miller is actually an almost carbon copy of the average DT, so he might be someone to look at more closely during the off-season.

For DEs only Charleston (6-4, 265), Jordan (6-4, 287), and Romeus (6-5, 267) fit that average - an average physical attribute which is probably one of the keys why the Giants' DEs are able to deflect so many passes.

For LBs only Humber (5-11) and Dunbar (6-0) fall short of the '08 Giants' average, but this is probably the one spot where the physical attributes have the least affect as far as the defensive schemes are concerned.


I think Johnson could be moved to DE under Spags with ease, since he rotated between being a DE and DT in the CFL, and possesses the speed to be an outside rusher if he only would shed a couple of pounds of extra weight.

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I took a quick look at the Giants' roster from 2008 to determine some of the average physical attributes different defenders had on Spags' D back then. Certainly this doesn't give us any real guidelines as to what he looks for in a player at a certain spot, since he wasn't drafting or signing these guys. But, still, I think it can at least tell us something about what type of an average player he used that year on certain positions while having great success against offenses as a whole.

The average DT was 6-4 and 309 lbs

The average DE was 6.4 and 269 lbs

The average LB was 6.2 and 240 lbs


As for the Saints roster from last year...

For DTs only Rogers (6-4 ,350), Miller (6-4, 310), and Johnson (6-3, 288) are close to that average, and Rogers is quite a lot over-weight to have the quickness Spags looks for. Miller is actually an almost carbon copy of the average DT, so he might be someone to look at more closely during the off-season.

For DEs only Charleston (6-4, 265), Jordan (6-4, 287), and Romeus (6-5, 267) fit that average - an average physical attribute which is probably one of the keys why the Giants' DEs are able to deflect so many passes.

For LBs only Humber (5-11) and Dunbar (6-0) fall short of the '08 Giants' average, but this is probably the one spot where the physical attributes have the least affect as far as the defensive schemes are concerned.


I think Johnson could be moved to DE under Spags with ease, since he rotated between being a DE and DT in the CFL, and possesses the speed to be an outside rusher if he only would shed a couple of pounds of extra weight.
Who is Miller?
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Who is Miller?
Probably Swanson Miller who looked great in pre-season.
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Probably Swanson Miller who looked great in pre-season.



Although, if my memory serves me right, Miller got few of his sacks in pre-season, because he was so slow of the line that the guard+center were already concentrating on someone else and let Miller have a free run at the QB.
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Although, if my memory serves me right, Miller got few of his sacks in pre-season, because he was so slow of the line that the guard+center were already concentrating on someone else and let Miller have a free run at the QB.
You're right. I remember that now. He was gawd-awful slow off the snap.
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You're right. I remember that now. He was gawd-awful slow off the snap.

By design?
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By design?
Ye ole delay tactic to confuse and disorient the quicker O-linemen.

I must have been thinking of that mama's boy that played so well, or Tom Johnson.
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