Full statement from the NFL on the Saints 'bounty' program

LivnaLieTimay · 03-05-2012, 09:22 PM

"Commissioner Goodell also advised the Saints that he is retaining jurisdiction and reserving his authority to impose further discipline if additional information comes to his attention."

And what if it turns out these accusations were overblown. Can he reserve his authority to reverse discipline? Doubt he'd ever do that...

LivnaLieTimay · 03-05-2012, 09:56 PM

The NFL's statement translated in English:

A rat with some grudge against the Saints organization went to the NFL office and told his side of the story, the NFL believed every word. They then used trumped up terminology to make their findings seem more legit.

Look, I'm not saying some of this stuff happened but I doubt that everything mentioned in the 50,000 page investigation is true. I just think if you're going to throw an organization under the bus you have to release more than just a vague statement. Show me some video, receipts, audio tapes with proof.

Ashley · 03-06-2012, 07:42 AM

I think we are in big trouble. This is going to sting for a long time.

Marlboro Man · 03-06-2012, 07:48 AM

Yes Mr. Goodell, but the Saints were incapable of delivering those hits and in fact did not deliver those hits and therefore the bounties that you speak of were never paid because they were never earned so how is a bounty system possible when the players never actually got said bounties because they were incapable of actually making those types of plays?? Nor did they make those kinds of plays.

alexonfyre · 03-06-2012, 09:30 AM

This whole situation reminds me of watching the Saints in the 90s. *Leading through the first half* "Man we are doing really great, now how are we gonna screw this up" *3 4th Quarter INTs and a safety later* "Yep, that's about right"

NOS2SB · 03-06-2012, 09:31 AM

Roger Goodell is slowly changing the game to flag football.

Euphoria · 03-06-2012, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by NOS2SB

Roger Goodell is slowly changing the game to flag football.

That isn't a fair comment for this situation.

You don't pay a player to hurt another player... you pay them to play football.

Euphoria · 03-06-2012, 10:28 AM

I think its pretty easy to figure out who got paid for the knock outs are carted off bonus'...

No one.

There were not player taken out or carted off during these games. Close calls but most of the hits to them were legal hits.

However just because a player didn't get the money doesn't ok the situation.

alexonfyre · 03-06-2012, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

I think its pretty easy to figure out who got paid for the knock outs are carted off bonus'...

No one.

There were not player taken out or carted off during these games. Close calls but most of the hits to them were legal hits.

However just because a player didn't get the money doesn't ok the situation.

Locker Room conversation:

Player 1: Alright, big hits, you get $500 for lighting someone up on film. You get an extra G if they don't come back into the game

Player 2: If they get hurt?

Player 1: Nah, just out of the game

Player 2: What if they need the cart?

Player 1: Yeah, no bonus if they get the cart

Player 3: But hey, I knocked him out didn't I? If I hit him hard and he needs the cart, that ain't my fault, especially if it's clean...

Player 1: Fine...you get a G for knocking someone out, but you only get half if they need the cart. Now money in the hat! Le' go!

03-05-2012, 09:56 PM	#2
LivnaLieTimay 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,499	The NFL's statement translated in English: A rat with some grudge against the Saints organization went to the NFL office and told his side of the story, the NFL believed every word. They then used trumped up terminology to make their findings seem more legit. Look, I'm not saying some of this stuff happened but I doubt that everything mentioned in the 50,000 page investigation is true. I just think if you're going to throw an organization under the bus you have to release more than just a vague statement. Show me some video, receipts, audio tapes with proof. Jankman8 likes this.

03-06-2012, 10:25 AM	#7
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by NOS2SB Roger Goodell is slowly changing the game to flag football. That isn't a fair comment for this situation. You don't pay a player to hurt another player... you pay them to play football.

03-06-2012, 10:35 AM	#9
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	Originally Posted by Euphoria I think its pretty easy to figure out who got paid for the knock outs are carted off bonus'... No one. There were not player taken out or carted off during these games. Close calls but most of the hits to them were legal hits. However just because a player didn't get the money doesn't ok the situation. Locker Room conversation: Player 1: Alright, big hits, you get $500 for lighting someone up on film. You get an extra G if they don't come back into the game Player 2: If they get hurt? Player 1: Nah, just out of the game Player 2: What if they need the cart? Player 1: Yeah, no bonus if they get the cart Player 3: But hey, I knocked him out didn't I? If I hit him hard and he needs the cart, that ain't my fault, especially if it's clean... Player 1: Fine...you get a G for knocking someone out, but you only get half if they need the cart. Now money in the hat! Le' go!

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03-05-2012, 09:22 PM	#1
LivnaLieTimay 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,499	"Commissioner Goodell also advised the Saints that he is retaining jurisdiction and reserving his authority to impose further discipline if additional information comes to his attention." And what if it turns out these accusations were overblown. Can he reserve his authority to reverse discipline? Doubt he'd ever do that...

03-06-2012, 07:42 AM	#3
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	I think we are in big trouble. This is going to sting for a long time.

03-06-2012, 07:48 AM	#4
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Yes Mr. Goodell, but the Saints were incapable of delivering those hits and in fact did not deliver those hits and therefore the bounties that you speak of were never paid because they were never earned so how is a bounty system possible when the players never actually got said bounties because they were incapable of actually making those types of plays?? Nor did they make those kinds of plays.

03-06-2012, 09:30 AM	#5
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	This whole situation reminds me of watching the Saints in the 90s. Leading through the first half "Man we are doing really great, now how are we gonna screw this up" 3 4th Quarter INTs and a safety later "Yep, that's about right"

03-06-2012, 09:31 AM	#6
NOS2SB Shampoo Join Date: May 2011 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 454	Roger Goodell is slowly changing the game to flag football.

03-06-2012, 10:28 AM	#8
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	I think its pretty easy to figure out who got paid for the knock outs are carted off bonus'... No one. There were not player taken out or carted off during these games. Close calls but most of the hits to them were legal hits. However just because a player didn't get the money doesn't ok the situation.