Specialist said there were no bounties in 2011
 

Specialist who worked closely with New Orleans Saints said there were no bounties in 2011

In one of the highest-profile accusations ever leveled against a franchise, the NFL has said the New Orleans Saints for the past three years employed a diabolical system that paid cash bonuses to defensive players who injured opponents. For at least one-third of that stretch, however, the NFL is wrong, and no such bounties were ever in place, according to a physical and behavioral specialist who spent virtually the entire 2011 season with the Saints working closely with former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams and his staff.

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finally coming out the wood works on our side

that explains a lot.

i bet peter king doesnt do an article on the truth

I bet Peter King writes the article finding a way to make us look bad...

I wonder what is the truth. Are the Saints being set up and have those interviewed, during the NFL's invsetigation lied? It sounds like the term bounty is incorrectly being used. Will the NFL report be made public?
Especially if Goodell issues penalties that have never been issued in the history of the NFL. What about an appeals process? Will there be any recourse for false prosecution? I hope Goodell has his facts straight because the reprecussions and fallout from this could impact the NFL in way that as never been seen before.

There is truth in the story.

The problem is that people are making it too black and white.

Was money offered? Probably.
Was money paid? Maybe.

Ever stood in a locker room where your teammate asks for another players head (figuratively)? Well this is the same thing. Only it's the BIG BOYS now. And they can DO something about it. And that's what has writers like Peter King salivating over the opportunity to make headlines.

"oohhh, the big-bad, mean, players who are out to hurt offensive players, they need to be STOPPED!! This is an outrage - there's no room for any of this in the new NFL

Notice how not one writer has mentioned offensive bounties in all this? Yeah, that would be some real cutting-edge journalism, not just pile-on writing...

Another problem. There's no record of it (to this point) and Peter King wasn't anywhere near a locker room when it was supposedly stated. But that's the world we live in - proof is not required to make headlines anymore. It's all "un named sources close to the organization".

The Saints organization and GW will be made an example of well, because that's the NFL we live in now.

We'll lose a pick either this year or next (1st rounder) and the season will start.

All big hits this entire season will be scrutinized and questioned as "bounty hits" (causing me to roll my eyes and curse). The number of fines for big hits will increase over last year. More suspensions are sure to follow. Fans will make witty cardboard signs and james harrison will tweet endless nonsense until he is again the center of attention (roll eyes, curse again).

This will be all but forgotten (like Starcaps) until any further action is taken upon players who (supposedly) took part in the bounty. My guess - no players suspended or fined.

In the end this will all fade away into the lore of football past this is the grainy video clips of Buddy Ryan being a complete A hole.



SF76

Damn!

I was actually convincing my self that our inability to tackle was because they were trying to hurt someone.

Now it seems we really cant tckle.

Ruined my day!

Begs the question why would GW come out and apologize for it if it never existed in the first place? :confused:

I think you guys are missing a key point to all of this.

The article claimed there was 'pay for performance'. THAT IS ILLEGAL but the rule. Bounty or not the Saints are...

GUILTY!

Granted just about every team and every Defensive player to ever play the game. That doesn't make it right.

He apologized for pay for play or performance. Neither he, nor Payton, nor Loomis said anything about paying for injuries. It is explicitly against the rules to pay for sacks or picks or fumbles and the players were admittedly doing that amongst themselves. That's what the apologizes were for.

He also admitted that he himself provided funds into that pool and supervised it to some extent.

Stevie Johnson admitted pay for performance being done w/the Bills while he was on the Jim Rome show. Every team does it. Who knows what the extent it was with the Saints. The only thing that will haunt the team is that it was brought to their attention in 2009 and obviously still an issue up to 2011... This whole thing is being blown way further than it should have ever gotten, especially with Manning being able to be the headline during the off season...

This is true. Nobody is denying the fact that there was pay for performance going on. That is not what people are butchering the Saints over. Nobody cares about that. They are up in arms over paying to intentionally going out to injure players which this story points out was NOT going on at all in 2011 when the claims were that it was. Where's the proof that it ever even happened?

Maybe there's a reason to judge slowly?

Hmmm.

Bet there's more info that's not surfaced. And who'dathunk that?

Chill pills for everyone.

Stick that in your pipe Goddell and smoke it

Unless the NFL has a video Benson has a strong case in Federal court. Even if they do have a video it's likely illegal. I'm no lawyer but this he said she said stuff doesn't hold much weight. The 50K pages are not all on the Saints either. The Saints could generate 50K pages saying they didn't...it means nothing without irrefutable evidence. If it did go this route Benson could then go after the media because I know I've heard several reporters leave out the "alleged" word. This is much different than Spygate. The NFL confiscated years of illegal footage from the Pats. Goodell must have finally got a hold of some hard evidence is the only reason I think this is finally coming out.

I agree but if you remember the statement the NFL released, they specifically mentioned the words; "bounty," "cart off," and "knockout." These were the words that had everyone in the media going crazy. The NFL is all about player safety these days and these words go against that theory. If it is found that the bounty claims were false, our penalty very well could be much lighter. We all know that some punishment is going to occur, but with more people coming out and claiming "bounties" didn't exist, the more likely our punishment won't be as severe.

I know the Saints and Gregg Williams have come out and apologized but if it's only for "pay for performance" I think the organization doesn't come out looking as bad and we'll be able to move on quicker.

Honestly, if the initial NFL statement had only claimed a "pay for performance" system took place this story NEVER would have taken off like it did. The more people denying bounties, the better we look and the lighter our punishment will be.

Either that or he sh*t his pants at the prospect of adding a blockbuster trophy to his Pansy Football League wall of shame.

It's about time something went our way.

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