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iceshack149 04-13-2004 01:08 AM

Duece McAllister
 
Saints | McAllister Asked To Trim Down - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 12 Apr 2004 11:07:08 -0700

The New Orleans Times-Picayune reports New Orleans Saints RB Deuce McAllister has been asked to lose 10-15 pounds during the offseason by team officials. The Saints think a slimmer McAllister will reduce the wear on his legs and add a step to his breakaway speed. McAlister played at about 238 pounds last season.

http://www.kffl.com/link/147

Can you say "If it aint broke, don't fix it"? :(

vulture 04-13-2004 02:02 AM

Duece McAllister
 
Some downfield blocking by the recievers probably wouldn\'t hurt the look of his breakaway speed either.

Danno 04-13-2004 06:42 AM

Duece McAllister
 
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Saints | McAllister Asked To Trim Down - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 12 Apr 2004 11:07:08 -0700

The New Orleans Times-Picayune reports New Orleans Saints RB Deuce McAllister has been asked to lose 10-15 pounds during the offseason by team officials. The Saints think a slimmer McAllister will reduce the wear on his legs and add a step to his breakaway speed. McAlister played at about 238 pounds last season.

http://www.kffl.com/link/147

Can you say \"If it aint broke, don\'t fix it\"? :(
To borrow a phrase from my pessimistic counterparts
We were 8-8 last year!
ITS BROKE!!!!!

WhoDat 04-13-2004 09:26 AM

Duece McAllister
 
It (the team) is broke. McAllister is not.

The Saints broke it when they let T-Rex get away. Now they\'re just adding insult to injury. He\'ll need that extra 10 to 15 pounds this season on those 4-1 0-hole dives that we couldn\'t pick up last year. I say let him keep the 10 pounds - he\'ll already be missing about 240 lbs. in front of him.

saintz08 04-13-2004 09:39 AM

Duece McAllister
 
Anyone else smell , cheap contractual renegotiation tool ???


Boogro 04-13-2004 06:43 PM

Duece McAllister
 
Quote:

Anyone else smell , cheap contractual renegotiation tool ???

Only you, buddy

JimBone 04-13-2004 08:16 PM

Duece McAllister
 
I believe it was the Saints who addressed the media about extending Deuce\'s contract publicly and not the other way around like many players do nowadays. The Saints know that Deuce is by far their best player and they are gonna take care of him monaterily without a doubt. They just want him to be at his best when the season rolls around.

iceshack149 04-13-2004 08:39 PM

Duece McAllister
 
Can you say \"If it aint broke, don\'t fix it\"?
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To borrow a phrase from my pessimistic counterparts
We were 8-8 last year!
ITS BROKE!!!!!
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It (the team) is broke. McAllister is not.
That\'s exactly what I meant. It seems that when a player adds or loses weight something goes wrong. Donovan McNabb added weight last season and it took almost half the season for him to adjust.
McAllister had a great season at his current weight and it seems foolish to mess with that formula.

saintz08 04-13-2004 10:08 PM

Duece McAllister
 
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Only you, buddy
Duece added the extra muscle , to take the pounding that would keep him in the game and get him into the secondary over the likes of Warren Sapp .

Haslett does not seem a little fickle to you Boogro ???

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McAllister adds Beef

Clipped from the Advocate Online:

Apparently, New Orleans Saints running back Deuce McAllister didn\'t
take anything for granted when he was handed the starting job
following the trade that sent Ricky Williams to the Miami Dolphins on
March 8.

McAllister added 12 pounds of muscle to his 6-foot, 1-inch frame
during the off-season and still showed off the speed this week that
coaches and scouts saw when they made him the team\'s first-round
draft pick in 2001. The former Ole Miss star will play at about 230
pounds this season.

\"I\'m proud of what Deuce has accomplished this off-season,\" Saints
coach Jim Haslett said during the three-day minicamp that ended
Saturday. \"He\'s stronger and he looks like an NFL running back.

\"Even though he put on more than 10 pounds, he looks just as fast,\"
Haslett said. \"I\'m more proud of what he\'s done in the weight room
than what he\'s done on the field.\"

In April, McAllister vowed that he would be better prepared to tackle
the challenge of being the main man in the Saints running attack
after being plagued by injuries in college.

\"It\'s not a position I haven\'t been in before,\" he said. \"I did it in
college and I prepared myself to be the No. 1 guy last year even
though it didn\'t happen.\"
[Edited on 14/4/2004 by saintz08]

JimBone 04-13-2004 10:32 PM

Duece McAllister
 
That article pointed out that Deuce was gonna play at about 230. The article about Deuce slimming down had him dropping 10 pounds from his 238 pound frame. Haslett wants him back to pretty much where he was. Deuce is the ultimate pro and the consummate team player and all he wants to do is win. Haslett is not being fickle, he wants Deuce to get back to where he was 2 years ago....around the 228-232 range. I dont think that is too much to ask.

saintz08 04-13-2004 11:37 PM

Duece McAllister
 
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Haslett is not being fickle, he wants Deuce to get back to where he was 2 years ago....around the 228-232 range. I dont think that is too much to ask.
Duece fell to the Saints on draft day because he had a history of being injury prone in college . He came into the league at or around 221 pounds and suffered through some injuries at the lower weight . He added some bulk in the off season and made it through the season with no major injury setbacks and rushed for over 1600 yards . If Duece is injury prone at the 228 range it is alot to ask ............

JimBone 04-13-2004 11:42 PM

Duece McAllister
 
Why would he be injury prone at 228? He came in at 221...he played a year at 230 and ran for nearly 1400 yards...and played another season at 238 and ran for 1600 yards. As silly as it sounds, he was more effective in short yardage at 230 as evidenced by his TD difference in the two years. I know he had about half of what he put up the year before. Haslett\'s fate lies in Deuce being healty so i think he knows what he is doing. I dont know where the injury prone topic even came from? Maybe i am just missing something.

saintz08 04-14-2004 12:16 AM

Duece McAllister
 
Quote:

I dont know where the injury prone topic even came from? Maybe i am just missing something.
Maybe so , the reason Duece bulked up ....

Quote:

In April, McAllister vowed that he would be better prepared to tackle
the challenge of being the main man in the Saints running attack
after being plagued by injuries in college
.

Duece at 230 lbs broke 10 runs for 20 or more yards
Duece at 238 lbs broke 16 runs for 20 or more yards .

Despite the additional longer yardage totals , some Saints braintrust says :

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The Saints think a slimmer McAllister will reduce the wear on his legs and add a step to his breakaway speed.
I have too ask :

Quote:

Haslett\'s fate lies in Deuce being healty so i think he knows what he is doing.
Is this the same Haslett that knew an injured Brooks was better then a healthy Delhomme ???


Boogro 04-14-2004 03:12 PM

Duece McAllister
 
He might have more runs over 20 yard last year, but 2 years ago, he led the league in 50+ yard runs and had more breakaway speed and still had power. I still remember when he ran over Keion Carpenter like it was nothing. Plus, he had a bunch of long runs called back due to holding penalties. 2 years ago Juran Bolden would have never caught up to him and stripped the ball like he did last year. Duece\'s yardage might have been up last year only because he was either limited or didn\'t play the last 4 games 2 years ago due to an ANKLE injury which had nothing to do with his playing weight.

JimBone 04-14-2004 05:28 PM

Duece McAllister
 
Damn...good point Boogro...Bolden never catches Deuce at 230 but had no problem catching him and stripping him at 238. I also forgot about all the long runs Deuce had called back because of penalties....that had to be at least 350 yards worth wiped away by penalties.

saintz08 04-14-2004 09:20 PM

Duece McAllister
 
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He might have more runs over 20 yard last year, but 2 years ago, he led the league in 50+ yard runs
Do you have some numbers on this or are we supposed to take your word ???


Boogro 04-14-2004 09:35 PM

Duece McAllister
 
Quote:

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He might have more runs over 20 yard last year, but 2 years ago, he led the league in 50+ yard runs
Do you have some numbers on this or are we supposed to take your word ???

Look, I remember watching the games that year and the announcers saying that he led all NFL rushers in that category. And no I don\'t have numbers on me. Believe me or don\'t believe me, if all you are going to say that somebody\'s weight effects them being prone to injury, then I guess Shawn Andrews should have stayed at 400 lbs. I think he would have a hard time of getting injured cause 400 lbs is a lot more than 345. Get real

saintz08 04-15-2004 01:04 AM

Duece McAllister
 
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Look, I remember watching the games that year and the announcers saying that he led all NFL rushers in that category.
Ist , 3rd or 8th game of the season ??? Do you remember the part of the season ??

Duece suffered a shoulder injury in his college days , bulking up in the upper body to absorb the blows is not an uncommon practice . Especially if a player is looking to pound the skin into the heart of a defense and leave a lasting impression .

Jamal lewis is 5\' 11\" and listed at 240 , If Deuce played at 230 -235 he would be right in his comfort zone with plenty of power and speed ...

JimBone 04-15-2004 01:12 AM

Duece McAllister
 
just because one person has success at one weight doesnt mean everyone else will. Deuce is not Jamal Lewis, Deuce is better off at 225-230 than he is at 240. The breakaway speed just isnt there at 240.

turbo_dog 04-15-2004 03:06 AM

Duece McAllister
 
He sure had a hell of a season last year at his about 235 weight. If he can stay healthy all year at 238 that is better than missing 3 or 4 games because of injury at 225-230.

Danno 04-15-2004 06:53 AM

Duece McAllister
 
An intersting comment from one of the more handsome posters this forum has to offer...
From December 2003...
http://www.blackandgold.net/site/mod...=3876#pid19398
Quote:

What happened to all the talk about McAllister being MVP or the best back in the league? Once again he disappears down the stretch. I think all this Deuce worship needs to be analyzed a bit more. I see him missing holes and stutterstepping much more than he should.
I remember a 3rd and short during the Dallas game, he takes the hand-off and dives straight down into the arms of Dallas defender. What the hell was that? He looked like Ironhead Heyward at his worst. I personally think he came into camp too heavy and petered out down the stretch. The lack of a true back-up for most of the year didn\'t help much either.
I gladly await the Deuce worshippers\' outrage...
[Edited on 15/4/2004 by Danno]

[Edited on 15/4/2004 by Danno]

BlackandBlue 04-15-2004 06:58 AM

Duece McAllister
 
You suck and your link sucks!!!!! :P

subguy 04-15-2004 09:08 AM

Duece McAllister
 
Possibly the one area of the team you shouldn\'t F with. We certsainly have greater concerns when the guy is a stud back. Leave it alone along as he is in shape when it counts.

WhoDat 04-15-2004 09:19 AM

Duece McAllister
 
I think he should weigh 232.5

NO WAY! 232.5 makes him slow and out of shape. 232 is the right weight for the guy.

232?! Are you crazy? How can he take the physical beating he\'ll need to take at 232? He needs that extra half pound dammit.


Give it a rest guys.

saintfan 04-15-2004 12:44 PM

Duece McAllister
 
Quote:

think he should weigh 232.5

NO WAY! 232.5 makes him slow and out of shape. 232 is the right weight for the guy.

232?! Are you crazy? How can he take the physical beating he\'ll need to take at 232? He needs that extra half pound dammit.


Give it a rest guys.
It doesn\'t happen often, but on this rare occasion I agree with Whodat. I also find it quite funny that Saintz08 is actually asking someone to prove something...how does it feel 08? LMAO :P

saintfan 04-15-2004 12:46 PM

Duece McAllister
 
Emmitt Smith #22 Height: 5-9 Weight: 216

JimBone 04-15-2004 04:12 PM

Duece McAllister
 
Who is Emmitt Smith? Never heard of him. Did he play for the Saints?

Oh...that guy...yeah he was overrated.

Danno 04-15-2004 04:17 PM

Duece McAllister
 
Quote:

Who is Emmitt Smith? Never heard of him. Did he play for the Saints?

Oh...that guy...yeah he was overrated.
Put Deuce McAllister behind the same line Emmit had and he\'d rack up several 2000 yard seasons, easy!

WhoDat 04-15-2004 04:41 PM

Duece McAllister
 
Put Barry Sanders behind any other line than he had and he would have 40,000 yards rushing in 3 snaps. What\'s your point?

JimBone 04-15-2004 08:29 PM

Duece McAllister
 
Put George Rogers behind any line and he will snort it all in a heartbeat.

Come on, that was tasteless but still a little funny.

saintz08 04-15-2004 08:57 PM

Duece McAllister
 
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Emmitt Smith #22 Height: 5-9 Weight: 216
Alright Saintsfan , I know she said size does not matter and you probably think that is the truth , but with a height to weight ratio it does .

Deuce is 6\' 1 \" .

Boogro 04-15-2004 09:17 PM

Duece McAllister
 
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Put George Rogers behind any line and he will snort it all in a heartbeat.

Come on, that was tasteless but still a little funny.
LMAO Chalk one up for Jimbone


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