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Danno 04-13-2004 03:52 PM

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I think Loomis is playing the waiting game to perfection.

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Rumor has it that talks involving the Saints and Patriots which would result in the trading of one of the Saints second round picks and a fifth round pick to the Patriots for Ty Law has come up. Chances are no move will be made until the draft draws closer. Even if an arrangement were made, any deal would likely depend on the Saints and Law agreeing to a contract extension, which could be very difficult considering the reputation of his current agents.
I assume he means our 2005 5th rounder.
I'd do it. It would also mean LB in the 1st, CB in 2nd or 3rd to develop a few years.
Wouldn't be upset if we passed on it either. He will cost us a fortune.

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It seems the Jeremiah Trotter whispers are refusing to stop. Sources are reporting that some in the Saints organization are willing to give up as high as a 4th round pick in next year’s draft to acquire Trotter, but others would prefer to wait until shortly before he is cut so that they can acquire him at a cheaper price, likely for a 5th or 6th round pick. Either way Trotter is yet another young NFL veteran that reports have the Saints eyeballing still.
We may also be waiting to see if Vilma is our guy at 18. If we get Vilma, no need for Trotter. Washington may get impatient and do something with us before we pick #18.

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One other area that has begun to cause whispers is that concerning Cie Grant. Grant was drafted last year with the vision that he would possibly play middle linebacker for the team. However, sources are reporting that Grant might be moved to outside linebacker, which would leave the Saints with just Darren Smith and Orlando Ruff at the middle linebacker position. Ruff is better suited against the rush while Smith is better protecting against medium range passes. The Saints could platoon the two, but it is more likely that you will see the team try to fill the hole via a trade or the draft.
Probably also dependent on Vilma falling to us.


[Edited on 13/4/2004 by Danno]

Chuck 04-13-2004 04:36 PM

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I know we would pay way to much for Ty Law but i cant fight the urge, i want him.

He would probally be like that double bacon cheese burger, really good at first, but the bad attitude and salary cap would cause a horrible case of heart burn in the end.

speaking of heart burn, damn.... that... hurts

WhoDat 04-14-2004 07:01 PM

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Frankly, I like all of those rumors. Make \'em happen Danno.

JimBone 04-14-2004 07:40 PM

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I\'ll take Ty Law on my team any day. No questions asked...pay him and bring him in and let him be the man.

Chuck 04-14-2004 08:47 PM

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Law is probally going to be a money hound. Plus hes whining after winning two super bowls i dont think there is any pleasing the guy.

Boogro 04-14-2004 09:10 PM

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Law is probally going to be a money hound. Plus hes whining after winning two super bowls i dont think there is any pleasing the guy.
Some say Law is the best corner in the NFL. I know, it is very debatable. I do think he is up there with the best. So, I would be thrilled to have a top corner like Law on our team. At least he is a legit #1 shutdown corner. Some people wanted to give up almost everything for Champ Bailey before FA started and Law is just as good, just not as young as Bailey. Ask Peyton Manning if he likes playing against Ty Law and see what he says. Law has been a nightmare for the guy.

Chuck 04-14-2004 09:57 PM

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Boogro, I\'m not doubting his ability, I just don\'t think the Saints need another \"its all about me\" player on the team, especially what it may cost. He\'s is a great corner but check out that cry baby crap on ESPN Motion.

JimBone 04-14-2004 09:59 PM

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, I\'m not doubting his ability, I just don\'t think the Saints need another \"its all about me\" player on the team, especially what it may cost. He\'s is a great corner but check out that cry baby crap on ESPN Motion.
Chuck chuck bo buck fanana fanna fo...
I have a hard time taking your seriously simply because of your name. Law can demand a lot of money because he is the best in the business. That is evidenced by his play in the post season.

Boogro 04-14-2004 10:08 PM

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The whole thing with Law is that the Patriots front office said they were going to take care of him in the offseason. They were into contract talks and all of a sudden the Pats front office just backed out. They didn\'t even tell Law or his agents that the talks were off. Law has been the cornerstone of that defense for past few years and he deserves it. Law is just pissed at the way the Pats front office handled the whole situation and he should be. You NEVER heard anything of Ty Law being a me first player until now. Being the professional that he is, I am sure he is going to play this thing out instead of being a hold-out. If we have the cap room to get one of the top corners in the game, then I say do it.

Chuck 04-14-2004 10:13 PM

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Chuck chuck bo buck fanana fanna fo... I have a hard time taking your seriously simply because of your name.
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

And your name is suppose to strike respect amounge fellow posters because the second half refers to the genatal section of the male anatomy. :P :P :P :P :P

Now with all kidding aside,

Did you hear that interview that he had on ESPN motion, Bill Bellichick is a good football coach who wins superbowls becuase he has the power to convince players they aren\'t good.

What is that all about??????????????????????????????????



Boogro 04-14-2004 10:23 PM

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No, I never heard that interview. I know Belichick is a mastermind of defenses. I know Ty Law is a true talent. He\'s as good a any corner in the league

JimBone 04-14-2004 10:52 PM

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Good one Chuck...You got a lot to learn. How could you not want Law on your team? Money aside, i see no reason not to go after him.

I like you Chuck

BlackandBlue 04-15-2004 06:40 AM

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Get a ROOM!!!!

Danno 04-15-2004 06:49 AM

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Money aside, i see no reason not to go after him.
BUt that is the one and only reason no one is going after him.
He was offered a huge contract, and he told the Pats it was insulting?

Would you pay this man what he wants if it was say 4 times more than what Deuce is gonna get?

Would you pay him Peyton Manning dollars? Because thats apparently what he wants.

vulture 04-15-2004 07:59 AM

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BUt that is the one and only reason no one is going after him.
He was offered a huge contract, and he told the Pats it was insulting?
I bet he would take the same offer N.E. made from another team or even less just as a snub to management there. He seems to be that pi$$ed as though its not even about money anymore but a trust thing between them.

Boccal 04-15-2004 08:28 AM

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I know you were kidding when you said that he would take less money...Would you take less money to go a different job just because you didn\'t like you boss? :casstet:

subguy 04-15-2004 09:03 AM

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Both rumors sound great. Even better if we could draft a young stud LB. Ty Law would help us out not only by talent but by giving us a guy who has played on a winner and veteran experience.

WhoDat 04-15-2004 09:15 AM

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BUt that is the one and only reason no one is going after him.
He was offered a huge contract, and he told the Pats it was insulting?

Would you pay this man what he wants if it was say 4 times more than what Deuce is gonna get?

Would you pay him Peyton Manning dollars? Because thats apparently what he wants.
C\'mon Danno, we both know that comments about being insulted by an offer mean one of only two things: 1. it\'s a bargaining tactic (and generally a bad one in my mind). 2. The guy just wants out of wherever he is and anything will be an insult. He\'ll probably end up playing somewhere else for less money than the Patties offered.

Danno 04-15-2004 09:25 AM

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BUt that is the one and only reason no one is going after him.
He was offered a huge contract, and he told the Pats it was insulting?

Would you pay this man what he wants if it was say 4 times more than what Deuce is gonna get?

Would you pay him Peyton Manning dollars? Because thats apparently what he wants.
C\'mon Danno, we both know that comments about being insulted by an offer mean one of only two things: 1. it\'s a bargaining tactic (and generally a bad one in my mind). 2. The guy just wants out of wherever he is and anything will be an insult. He\'ll probably end up playing somewhere else for less money than the Patties offered.
Kinda like Turley did?

Chuck 04-15-2004 09:39 AM

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Get a ROOM!!!!
Hey BandB why you got to be all up in my Male Bonding, I thought the Express Your Gayness Guy would understand Geessh :P :P

The Mega money he wants , and nobody seems to remember is interview, \"Bellickick is a good football coach becuase he can convince players they aren\'t good.\" That is a quoate from Law :exclam:

Maybe it would be fine but thats a huge price to pay if it fails


[Edited on 15/4/2004 by Chuck]

chRxis 04-15-2004 02:05 PM

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honestly, i hope we do get Law for a 2nd rd pick... that\'s a steal to me. i think as far as 1st rd, i would really love to see williams in a fleur-de-lis helmet next aug.

JimBone 04-15-2004 04:05 PM

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OK...for the Saints to acquire Ty Law...I would love it. I am not a huge fan of Loomis but you have to give the guy credit for being able to manage the team\'s money. I am sure that he could devise some sort of plan to fit Law in and still be able to lock up Deuce and Howard longterm.

WhoDat 04-15-2004 04:08 PM

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Yeah, kind of like Turley did.

One noticable difference - Turley starting complaining in training camp the year BEFORE thy started contract negociations and he kept bad mouthing after he left. He also wasn\'t alone in his criticism and his team hadn\'t just won the Super Bowl and wasn\'t being coached by a guy considered to be the best in biz at the time.

saintfan 04-15-2004 04:11 PM

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Rekon what Mr. Law might have to say about that \"mickey mouse\" organization up there in New England if they don\'t show him the $$$ ?

;)


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