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ChrisXVI 03-21-2012 05:36 PM

Shockey's probably going to get a big under the table payment from the NFL and good ol' Roger for ratting out the Saints for not stopping the bounty.

winmill1 03-21-2012 05:49 PM

The bounty is on Shockey

Pete 03-21-2012 05:52 PM

I heard shockey tweeted Sapp back,"REALLY" with not one but yes TWOquestion marks!Really Shockey you just had to right!

I believe it

foreverfan 03-21-2012 05:53 PM

I'll give $50,000 to the first player to end his.... never mind.

RockyMountainSaint 03-21-2012 05:57 PM

NFL outs suspected Saints whistleblower on its own network | ProFootballTalk
The NFL learned how hard it was to expose the bounty system the Saints used to help fuel their 2009 Super Bowl run by investigating the situation in 2010 and coming up with nothing.

Next time around, it could be even harder to get to the truth.

Here, the NFL was able to dust off a cold case because someone blew the whistle during the 2011 season. And, as we explained earlier this month, it’s critical that the NFL protect the whistleblower from any type of retaliation — including insults, threats, and/or specific acts of violence from an overly zealous fan who now thinks the Saints’ Super Bowl title has been tainted and/or that the team’s quest to play in the Super Bowl that will be hosted by New Orleans has now been derailed.

As it turns out, the NFL has outed the suspected whistleblower. On the network that the NFL owns.

Technically, the NFL didn’t directly out the suspected whistleblower. Instead, analyst Warren Sapp outed the suspected whistleblower on Twitter, and Sapp then was invited on air to elaborate. (We won’t use the name of the suspected whistleblower here.)

“My source that was close to the situation informed me that [name omitted] is the one that was the snitch initially,” Sapp said. ”I trust my source unequivocally.”

Sapp emphasized that he didn’t get the information from the NFL. ”I did not call anybody at the league and I did not receive any information from the league,” Sapp said.

Still, NFL Network put Sapp on the air and allowed him to disclose the name.

“That’s the information that I got and I trust my source,” Sapp said. ”I was given that information, and I went with it, by a reliable source.”

It’s our understanding that Sapp’s source is wrong, and that the person he identified isn’t really the whistleblower. Still, it’s a topic that never should have been discussed on the network owned by the league.

No matter how the hairs are split, some people who heard what Sapp said will believe that the person he identified as the whistleblower was the whistleblower. And they won’t regard him as a whistleblower — they’ll regard him as, as Sapp called him, a snitch.

And snitches get stitches and the Saints’ Super Bowl win has indeed been tarnished and their shot at another Super Bowl win in 2012 has been significantly undermined and it only takes one crazy or otherwise unstable Saints fan to decide to do something crazy or unstable to the person identified as the suspected whistleblower.

So the next time the NFL is trying to crack the locker-room Omerta and someone is considering the possibility of doing the right thing and coming clean, that person should legitimately be concerned that his name eventually will be broadcast to the world on the TV network owned by the NFL.

One final point: This isn’t Sapp’s fault. This is a failure by NFL Network to understand the potential consequences of discussing on the air in any way the name of the person who did the right thing and exposed a bounty system that the Saints brazenly continued to utilize for two years after the NFL conducted a failed investigation into the question of whether the Saints were using a bounty system. Instead, someone at NFLN saw Sapp’s tweet and Sapp was brought on the air to discuss it and Sapp just answered questions that never, ever should have been asked.

SaintPauly 03-21-2012 06:03 PM

Where there's smoke......... I guess we know the truth now...

MorningWood 03-21-2012 06:24 PM

I wonder if he made the allegation against fellow U grad Vilma.

If Sapp can't back it up he needs to retract it.

Budsdrinker 03-21-2012 06:49 PM

Personally I don't think it was Shockey, I still think it was Grant or McCray.
I hope I'm right cause I really liked Shockey

saintfan 03-21-2012 06:53 PM

I think Sapp should expose his source. Otherwise there is nothing credible about what he said.

ChrisXVI 03-21-2012 06:53 PM

Again, the issue is the person who blew the whistle that the Saints didn't stop the bounty after the initial warning following the 2009 season. McCray and Grant weren't on the team anymore following the Super Bowl win. The NFL was tipped off that it was still going on at the start of the 2011 season... when Shockey was pissed for being cut and playing for a division rival.

FinSaint 03-21-2012 06:56 PM

I do understand the reason for protecting sources in cases like this, but on the other hand, many players have been accused during this witch hunt of being involved in the bounty scandal - so in a way I think the snitch should be outed and his reputation tarnished as well.

This is coming from a guy who knows the value of having trust in your teammates and who has no respect for someone who has a locker next to you telling others things they've overheard in private.

OldMaid 03-21-2012 07:39 PM

7:38 PM , turn on ESPN. J. Shockey is about to talk.
Hmmm...no doubt to say he did not talk to NFL...was not a part of this with Saints....is innocent.

pinch 03-21-2012 07:46 PM

At this point it doesn't really matter who ratted. We were stupid and got caught and now we have to pay the fiddler. However, it wouldn't surprise me at all if it was Shockey. I wasn't excited when he came here and he's always come off as a bit of a scumbag.

arsaint 03-21-2012 07:50 PM

My apologies if this has already been posted (didn't read all 6 pages), but maybe since Mr Shockey wants to stick it in us and break it off so bad, maybe he needs to hand over that Superbowl ring we placed on his paw.

Really, you think it was ill-gotten, then give it back ya squirrel...

st thomas 03-21-2012 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintPauly (Post 390338)
And they could be lying about the dates of the investigation, to throw people off the trail of where it came from....

true, for the protection of snitchs

nicebush25 03-21-2012 08:16 PM

The team was warned to stop the bounties while shockey was on the team. but they were penalized for not stopping the bounties the follow shockeyless season. One of the bounties was reported to be on cam newton's head, shockey's teammate that year. He is definitely a prime canidate. I thought it was remi

neugey 03-21-2012 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 390382)
I can't believe I just read this.

What country do you live in?

I used to live in America :(

QBREES9 03-21-2012 09:33 PM

Sapp Fingers Shockey.
 
Warren Sapp fingers Jeremy Shockey as the Saints

st thomas 03-21-2012 09:37 PM

i smell a rat. right or wrong what a sob

QBREES9 03-21-2012 09:39 PM

I don't know the man. Maybe he opened his mouth and S*&T came out. Or he was just mad.

73Saint 03-21-2012 09:42 PM

Sapp wouldn't have called out another Miami the U boy unless he knew what was up. Shockey's the snitch, I believe it.

LBCutta 03-21-2012 09:45 PM

I thought it was Shockey when the news first broke

QBREES9 03-21-2012 09:52 PM

Thats how he repays the team he won a Super Bowl with. Dam

SloMotion 03-22-2012 06:38 AM

The NFL does have the Whistle Blower Protection Act of 1989 to consider before identifying it's sources ... all along I assumed it was Greg Williams feeling the heat from the investigation, so he rolled ... being suspended "indefinitely" instead of more appropriately "for life" leads me to believe he is still at the bottom of this.

TheOak 03-22-2012 06:42 AM

I ate the last cookie.

before Shockey rats me out.

jeanpierre 03-22-2012 08:33 AM


Read the posts/comments underneath - funny arse schiott!

Mardigras9 03-22-2012 09:16 AM

Does it really matter? They had the chance to stop this with the first warning and didn't. That's the nail, no matter who leaked it.

RaginCajun83 03-22-2012 09:19 AM

Who cares who the snitch was, they had a chance to stop it and didn't, then they lied to the commish, from Duncan he thought there were multiple snitches so we might never know who fessed up

FinSaint 03-22-2012 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 390868)
Who cares who the snitch was, they had a chance to stop it and didn't, then they lied to the commish, from Duncan he thought there were multiple snitches so we might never know who fessed up


Well I care, and so do probably all the players around the league, who might potentially have to share a locker room with the guy - if he/they in fact are players.

RockyMountainSaint 03-22-2012 01:04 PM

Shockey hits back at Sapp over accusation in Saints bounty case | ProFootballTalk

Former Saints tight end Jeremy Shockey has come forward publicly to defend himself after former Buccaneers defensive tackle Warren Sapp said that Shockey was a “snitch” who informed the league office about the Saints bounty case.

Sapp first said on Twitter, and then repeated on NFL Network, that he had been told that Shockey was the person who blew the whistle on Gregg Williams’ bounty program. When we first mentioned the issue we didn’t include Shockey’s name because it seemed unfair to Shockey to name him based on what appeared to be a flimsy accusation from Sapp. But now Shockey has decided he wants to counter Sapp’s accusation publicly.

On Twitter today, Shockey posted what appeared to be text messages between himself and Saints coach Sean Payton, including one from Payton that said, “I know you had nothing to do with that.”

Shockey also told Jason Cole of Yahoo Sports that Sapp’s accusation was false and totally inexcusable.

“It’s reckless, it’s careless, it’s hurtful to me and the great time I had with the Saints,” Shockey said. “Sean Payton is a father figure to me. I would never do that to him or to the Saints.”

One surprising aspect of Sapp’s accusation is that NFL Network aired it even though Sapp didn’t name his source and acknowledged that he hadn’t asked the league office if his source was correct. There’s also the reality — apparently lost on both Sapp and Shockey — that bounties are against NFL rules, and therefore the person who reported the Saints’ bounties to the league office is a whistleblower, not a snitch.

If Shockey had refused to dignify Sapp’s comments with a response, he would have been well within his rights. But Shockey decided to respond strongly to Sapp. NFL Network should let its viewers know whether it stands by the information Sapp put on the air.

UK_WhoDat 03-22-2012 01:47 PM

I am in a holding pattern just now. I wait for the truth; confirmed.

RockyMountainSaint 03-22-2012 02:10 PM

Now that it looks like Congress is getting involved, we may find out that there are multiple snitches.

SaintsBro 03-22-2012 02:47 PM

This is from Nola.com, Shockey has a text conversation with Payton, and Payton says it wasn't him:

http://p.twimg.com/AomzTTACEAM60T3.jpg:large

IT WASN'T SHOCKEY, FOLKS.

Saintswrath 03-22-2012 03:11 PM

Anybody wanna wonder why Sean Payton sent a Hug's to Shockey right after this news broke?
Seems like Sean Payton know's very little about who snitched than anyone of us do...

I think Shockey heard about the program through the grapevine and snitched.. The Text messages seem to suspect to me.. That out of the Blue "Hugs" on the Same day about the news and then the whine-fest he text right after about Sapp putting that news out seemed to me very suspect like he needed this to cover his ass real quick.. Who Snapshoots a pic of private conversations? Lemme tell you who.. SNITCHES! AND DRAMA QUEENS!!

onebyone 03-22-2012 03:25 PM

Yep, nothing like posting your private messages with someone to make me think you are a snitch.

TheOak 03-22-2012 03:27 PM

I could crerate the SAME exact text on my iPhone LOL

CharityMike 03-22-2012 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 391119)
I could crerate the SAME exact text on my iPhone LOL

LOL..was just thinking the same thing. LOL..not to mention how the hell do we know that is Coach P's phone..because it says Coach Payton..lmao..whatever

ChrisXVI 03-22-2012 06:15 PM

Shockey is such a bi**h. Better not stay with Carolina... You don't want to have to come to New Orleans again.

SaintsBro 03-22-2012 06:18 PM

Believe whatever you want to believe, in spite of the facts if you have to

Pretty sad to me, if you trust the word of Sapp over the word of the coach who won your Super Bowl for you

it's pretty obvious that after this Sapp story broke, Shockey reached out to coach Payton on the phone, and asked him to clear his name, in regards to what Sapp said, and that's exactly what that text conversation is.

Sharper has already told you who it was, if you listened to him, everything except the name, and that's all I'm gonna say about it but you're obviously not interested in facts

foreverfan 03-22-2012 06:25 PM

Shockey? Sure it wasn't Jason David?


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