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W. Kovacs 03-25-2012 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 392220)
Can't help but think they know Vilma's gonna get suspended for the entire season.

If not, I'm OK with Vilma at WLB.

So long Jo-Lonn Dunbar, you were one of my personal favorites.

This is a shame. Dunbar was one of my favorites, too. I can't help but wonder if we're making a mistake in letting him go...

Do you think it's just that he doesn't fit into Spag's new scheme?

FinSaint 03-25-2012 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 392220)
Can't help but think they know Vilma's gonna get suspended for the entire season.

If not, I'm OK with Vilma at WLB.

So long Jo-Lonn Dunbar, you were one of my personal favorites.


I was thinking the exact same thing when I heard about the signing, because Lofton's contract should have at least about a $5-6M cap hit in 2012.

Of course it could be less, but I don't think so because he had competing offers from both the Bucs and the Failclowns, unless they were able get him to agree to a very heavily end-loaded contract.

So, this leads me to think that they already know that Vilma will be suspended for the year, and therefore, they know it will free up $5.4M in cap space added to the $1.3M the Saints apparently had left - makes that ~$6M cap hit possible to fit under the salary cap.

I don't know, but that was just what I began to think after I heard about this signing.

|Mitch| 03-25-2012 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 392228)
I was thinking the exact same thing when I heard about the signing, because Lofton's contract should have at least about a $5-6M cap hit in 2012.

I was thinking that the Falcons offered him 3-4 million and Lofton wanted 8-9 million a year?

I'm probably wrong though

CharityMike 03-25-2012 11:35 AM

Regardless, he felt low balled by the Falclowns and when he hit the open market, he wasn't as valued as he thought he was. I would imagine our offer wasn't more than there's but it was enough to make him leave after feeling slighted.

TheEnigma 03-25-2012 11:51 AM

Funny how these falcons fans loved this guy when he was on their team. Now that he's gone, all they say is how overrated he is and that he has bad knees and won't stay healthy.

|Mitch| 03-25-2012 12:01 PM

bad knees but has started every game in his 4 year career except one in '08... :bng:

SaintKiller 03-25-2012 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 392214)
Funny. Michael Boley was a "two down guy" with Atlanta too... :dunce:

No one ever labeled Michael Boley a two down LB, he was to expensive to keep and was made expendable when we drafted Curtis Lofton. Curtis started in the middle and Keith Brooking was moved outside to replace Michael, now slowly back out of this thread u clueless azzclown!!!

FinSaint 03-25-2012 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 392229)
I was thinking that the Falcons offered him 3-4 million and Lofton wanted 8-9 million a year?

I'm probably wrong though


It could be, but the problem is that none of financial details have been made public, at least I haven't seen any.

The Failclowns offered him a low-ball offer back in January I think, which Lofton outright turned down. But I don't know if the offer they gave him now was more competitive or if it was the same they gave him earlier.

I'd love it if Lofton's contract was $3-4M/yr, but I just get the feeling that it'll be more than that, of course I have no evidence to support it.


And for the bad knees claim I just don't understand how that can be the determining factor since Tatupu's knees are probably in a worse condition and he's older than Lofton. The fact that he didn't miss any games after his knee surgeries during the 2011 off-season leads me to believe that he'll be fine - I heard that they also did a scope later during the season, which removed all of the post-surgery scar tissue etc., so he should be fine and pain free.

I think that Nolan didn't really see Lofton fitting into what he wants to do defensibly, and therefore, the Failclowns had a fairly low figure in mind what they were willing to offer Lofton to re-sign.

SaintKiller 03-25-2012 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheEnigma (Post 392239)
Funny how these falcons fans loved this guy when he was on their team. Now that he's gone, all they say is how overrated he is and that he has bad knees and won't stay healthy.

No, we would have loved to have Curtis back just at the right price he is a very good LB just to rich for our blood!

|Mitch| 03-25-2012 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 392214)
Funny. Michael Boley was a "two down guy" with Atlanta too... :dunce:

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Originally Posted by SaintKiller (Post 392260)
No one ever labeled Michael Boley a two down LB, he was to expensive to keep and was made expendable when we drafted Curtis Lofton. Curtis started in the middle and Keith Brooking was moved outside to replace Michael, now slowly back out of this thread u clueless azzclown!!!

Really? :rolleyes:

Seems like somebody has his panties in a bunch over this... :doh:

SaintKiller 03-25-2012 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 392268)
Really? :rolleyes:

Seems like somebody has his panties in a bunch over this... :doh:

No sir just hate when someone tries to talk trash but have no clue what their talking about...

|Mitch| 03-25-2012 01:04 PM

Does it really matter? The Falcons have neither Boley or Lofton anymore...

2 down backs or not, they're not your problem anymore...

RockyMountainSaint 03-25-2012 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 392272)
Does it really matter? The Falcons have neither Boley or Lofton anymore...

2 down backs or not, they're not your problem anymore...

One of them is going to be a BIG problem for them!

Belair57 03-25-2012 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintKiller (Post 392263)
No, we would have loved to have Curtis back just at the right price he is a very good LB just to rich for our blood!

Falcon blood is Yellow right??? like the steaks on ya'lls backs!!!

hagan714 03-25-2012 04:58 PM

i will take solid over a flash in the pan any day. LB position just keeps getting better and deeper. not like that was hard to do. But yet another step in the right direction.

Ok Mickie show me how this will work with the cap.

Spags is going to mix this up, how?

been a long time since i have look forward to the lb line up going into camp.

now on to the draft.

Danno 03-25-2012 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 392355)
i will take solid over a flash in the pan any day. LB position just keeps getting better and deeper. not like that was hard to do. But yet another step in the right direction.

Ok Mickie show me how this will work with the cap.

Spags is going to mix this up, how?

been a long time since i have look forward to the lb line up going into camp.

now on to the draft.

My guess is with staggered suspensions, there will always be a significant cap exemption for the entire season.

I also fell like there will be a house cleaning before the 53 man roster (and cap compliance) is set... Vilma, Ellis, Shanle, Bushrod (if we sign someone else soon) and several others that may surprise us.

As the cap deadline approaches it'll be more difficult for some of our high dollar players to catch on elsewhere, so I expect some last minute restructures too...

Hang on, Mickey is just beginning to heat up.

spkb25 03-25-2012 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintKiller (Post 392263)
No, we would have loved to have Curtis back just at the right price

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Originally Posted by SaintKiller (Post 392263)
just to rich for our blood!

Well, if anyone would know how to price talent......

voodooido 03-25-2012 07:32 PM

Well looks like Turk McBride was resigned too.

|Mitch| 03-25-2012 07:35 PM

McBride was resigned a long time ago, before the Bucs had even signed Nicks. I think...

Rugby Saint II 03-25-2012 09:13 PM

We got the falcons player......I'm tickled. Now I just hope he is worth the money. We'll see shortly!

RockyMountainSaint 03-25-2012 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 392365)
Hang on, Mickey is just beginning to heat up.


TheDeuce 03-26-2012 04:46 PM

I am obviously late to the party, but this is awesome news. I was afraid that we wouldn't have the cap space to sign somebody like Lofton after we signed Chamberlain.


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