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neugey 03-26-2012 01:54 PM

Tuna Helper, creole style, I love it!

Seriously, this is exactly what we might need for a year. Bring in an old steady hand to guide the team through an interim period.

Danno 03-26-2012 01:55 PM

Aren't Parcells and Benson friends too? Didn't Benson try to hire him once?

This should be a very attractive proposition for Bill. The team is already loaded and a Superbowl favorite.

All he has to do is keep it between the ditches and he'll likely get a Superbowl ring for his participation.

9thWardDesire 03-26-2012 02:01 PM

Wow!

NOS2SB 03-26-2012 02:11 PM

I never did like the big tuna.

Danno 03-26-2012 02:17 PM

My favorite Tuna moment...

Speaking to his offensive coordinator in front of his running backs coach and his running backs...

"Why the hell are all of my running backs fat?"

LOL!!!

saintfan 03-26-2012 02:19 PM

Maybe Sean is thinking Spags 'could' do it but needs to focus on a "D" that needs help. Pete may not be ready, and nobody knows this more than Sean. It could be as much to protect those men as anything else.

Danno 03-26-2012 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 392728)
Maybe Sean is thinking Spags 'could' do it but needs to focus on a "D" that needs help. Pete may not be ready, and nobody knows this more than Sean. It could be as much to protect those men as anything else.

Not just protect them, but keep the continuity in place for the season.

Spags was hired to coach the defense, and Pete was hired to coordinate the offense.

Adding additional duties to either one's plate is gonna reduce their effectiveness.

Pete will eventually get his chance, but its a lot to throw on him right now.

AsylumGuido 03-26-2012 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 392649)
Parcells'll want some $$$ to do it. Give that to Drew instead!

Parcells wouldn't count against the player cap. No effect on Drew.

AsylumGuido 03-26-2012 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOS2SB (Post 392723)
I never did like the big tuna.

I always liked him.

SaintPauly 03-26-2012 02:46 PM

Parcell's is a master when it comes to the press... What they need to know, and what they DON'T. PR move? That's what I'm guessing, but at the same time, the man knows football. By the time he gets done, and Payton comes back, the pressure will be off considerably...

Brandon428 03-26-2012 02:59 PM

I don’t care what anyone says, an outside coach is a must in this situation to me! I think Gruden or Mora would be a better option because Parcells does like total control but I think since he and Payton have such a close relationship he’ll respect Payton’s system. We need Carmihael to focus on offense and Spags to focus solely on defense. I think this could only add more depth and be a great thing for the Saints.

Danno 03-26-2012 03:01 PM

Obviously Payton thinks he's the best option for our situation so I'm OK with that.

I just wonder if Parcells is interested.

SmashMouth 03-26-2012 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 392750)
Obviously Payton thinks he's the best option for our situation so I'm OK with that.

I just wonder if Parcells is interested.

Is he hired yet? ..... I heard Halo was in the running for it too! :mrgreen:

SaintPauly 03-26-2012 03:07 PM

I think if he wasn't interested Danno, he would have already said so. Parcell's isn't one for not letting people know how he feels, that's for sure. lol

Saintsfan4ever 03-26-2012 03:13 PM

Wow! Hiring Parcells to replace Sean would definitely be a swift kick to the gonads of Goodell. But Parcells is 71 yrs old, would he even be physically up to the task?

LBCutta 03-26-2012 03:17 PM

My gut feeling is that Parcells may turn it down. Especially since all the hoopla has hit the TV and internet before they even had a chance to sit down and talk. Parcells is not a media guy at all and this situation would be a media fiasco

TheOak 03-26-2012 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halo (Post 392711)
Let's face the facts...
  1. If Carmichael steps up as head coach and is marginally successful, the Saints will lose him next season in the Coaching carousel of the NFL.

I am with you on all but this one. If The Saints are successful in 2012 with Carm as head coach it will be viewed as he was successful with Payton's blue print and team...

Another view point is that the Saits have arguably the most productive Offense in the league and have for a few seasons now.... No one has stolen him... They know that is Paytons baby.

Garry42 03-26-2012 03:40 PM

I really like this idea! Parcells will be basically "babysitting" and honoring the system Payton has in place. The OC and DC can concentrate on their jobs and you have experience providing a guiding hand. For Parcells, it's only a one year gig....he ain't going to need to put his stamp on the team.

It looks like the "cleanest dirty shirt" to me!

neugey 03-26-2012 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saintsfan4ever (Post 392756)
Wow! Hiring Parcells to replace Sean would definitely be a swift kick to the gonads of Goodell. But Parcells is 71 yrs old, would he even be physically up to the task?

... of kicking Goodell in the gonads? Yes.

LivnaLieTimay 03-26-2012 04:03 PM

I like the idea of Parcells coming on board for one year. He holds players accountable and will have them playing hard. This would allow Carmichael to focus just on the offense and Spags just on the defense. The head coach is going to have a lot on his plate this year, bringing in an experienced guy like Parcells would be a smart move.

TheKillerBs 03-26-2012 04:04 PM

I like this move. Think about it, he's got tons of head coaching experience, and front office experience which could help us while Loomis is out.

Ignore my previous post. I think I heard wrong...

Danno 03-26-2012 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintPauly (Post 392755)
I think if he wasn't interested Danno, he would have already said so. Parcell's isn't one for not letting people know how he feels, that's for sure. lol

Good point, but compensation may cause a delay.

SmashMouth 03-26-2012 04:07 PM

Looks more official now...

Sean Payton, Bill Parcells discuss New Orleans Saints job, sources say - ESPN

Pesky Rooney Rule to adhere to ...

Danno 03-26-2012 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheKillerBs (Post 392770)
Just heard that Parcells has agreed to become Saints interim head coach, according to Adam Schefter...

I like this move. Think about it, he's got tons of head coaching experience, and front office experience which could help us while Loomis is out.

I saw that...

It was Ada r n shefter, its a phony moron.

darstep 03-26-2012 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garry42 (Post 392763)
I really like this idea! Parcells will be basically "babysitting" and honoring the system Payton has in place. The OC and DC can concentrate on their jobs and you have experience providing a guiding hand. For Parcells, it's only a one year gig....he ain't going to need to put his stamp on the team.

It looks like the "cleanest dirty shirt" to me!

Do you really think that Parcells can stomach a player treating him like the substitute teacher? Talking back and shooting spit balls at him, knowing that his days are numbered? We would just have to see how this pile washes out.

SloMotion 03-26-2012 04:16 PM

My first thought is, "How old is Parcells? ... would it be like watching Joe Paterno on the sidelines?". I want to see a current Parcell interview, I want to see what kind of shape he's in, I want to see how clairvoyent this guy is.

But, I defer to the logic in Halo's post (#40), which made sense.

Saintsfan4ever 03-26-2012 04:17 PM

HA! funny Neugie!
But seriously, I think before everyone get's all wee wee'd up over the possibility of the legend Parcells coming here, I think you'd have to consider that's asking alot of a 70 yr old man to be a head coach in the NFL. Especially since he's been retired, for what, 5 years?
Tom Coughlin will turn 66 this year (oldest active HC in the NFL) and there was talk about whether or not he was up to another season.
I'm just saying...

SaintsBro 03-26-2012 04:21 PM

The big strike against it, that I keep hearing and reading about is, it would push him back and make Parcells ineligible for the Hall of Fame for another 5 years. He's 71 and from one article I read, he seems to be pretty interested in getting into the Hall of Fame, this would make it a much longer wait for him. No one really knows how he feels, but he seems to have been fairly interested in how he does in the balloting, the last couple of years, and probably wants to be honored while he's still alive. But who knows.

SaintPauly 03-26-2012 04:23 PM

How old was Joe Pa? Or Bobby Bowden? Gibbs? It can be done. Legend....

jokeray 03-26-2012 04:43 PM

Just say no to Parcells.

Leave the media circus to the NY football jets.

What's next, if Brees doesn't sign, are you going to get Favre?

(I'm JOKING!)

SaintPauly 03-26-2012 04:48 PM

This is a good move guys. I don't think some of you reallize the media circus, this team is going to have to get used to this season. In my opinion it's a circus that neither Carmichael, or Spaggs has ever imagined, let alone know how to deal with....

OldMaid 03-26-2012 05:07 PM

If Sean Payton thought this up and wants this, then all 's good. Why not?
Parcells hired SP at DC 2003-2005.
They are friends.
They are "of the same coaching " in a way since SP woprked and was hired by Parcells.
I keep hearing everyone say Spags . Spags. No, PC ,PC. Ok, but who will replace one of these guys?
Well?
Perhaps better leave them in position where their strentgh is now rather than have them abruptly do this now and then have someone else take of DefC or OffC position.

SaintPauly , see post above, you have a good point.

SaintPauly 03-26-2012 05:09 PM

I just feel that this is exactly what Sean is thinking as well. Why put your brand new DC, or your inexperienced OC through this when you don't have too. It's like someone else said, with Parcells, we know it's only for one season. With someone else, it will be more permanent.

jeanpierre 03-26-2012 05:29 PM

I'll tell you what this is. It is yet another brilliant move by Coach Payton.

It let's the coordinators stay focused and maintains continuity.

And it tells the Press who've been dying to take a shot at Coach Payton and have jumped on his back during this whole episode one thing -


F**K YOU!

:bng:

PS: Didn't we bring this up about Tuna on another thread? Somebody is reading our stuff...

W. Kovacs 03-26-2012 06:43 PM

I love this move...IF ground rules are laid down at the beginning, then adhered to.

Parcells should be there for
1) general game management (time out calling, instant replays, etc.)
2) media interactions
3) managing emergencies (e.g. roster moves if there are player injures)
4) mentoring coordinators and assistant coaches

Carmichael has to have play calling responsibilities and Spags control of the D, otherwise it won't work.

Someone on the NFL Network suggested bringing Parcells in as a "Director of Football Operations" or something along those lines, rather than as HC...I REALLY love that idea...

jlouhill 03-26-2012 07:00 PM

Well I've never been a big fan of Parcells but I would welcome this with open arms. I agree with those who are of the opinion that Spags and Carmichael need to stay focused on the offense and defense. Parcells is a close friend of Paytons and I think if this were to happen he would not come in and start imposing himself and changing things as if he were taking over permanently. I think he would be great support for the assistants and he could divert some of the head coach stuff away from the other coaches so they can focus on the task at hand.

aquaboogie 03-26-2012 07:05 PM

Good choice, We need someone who can handle the stupid bounty or suspension questions that will be repeated hundreds of times weekly by crazy reporters. I think his experience would be able to protect coaches and players from the nonsense and keep their focus on football.

papz 03-26-2012 07:22 PM

Parcells said on Monday he has spoken to Payton about how to handle the season -- but nothing more. Asked if anyone in the Saints organization had talked to him about coaching the team in 2012, he said, "No."

Parcells says he's talked to Payton, but not Saints | wwltv.com New Orleans

http://theadvocate.com/sports/saints...ct-from-saints

SmashMouth 03-26-2012 07:32 PM

Bill Parcells unlikely to coach New Orleans Saints, but don't rule it out yet - Peter King - SI.com

Danno 03-26-2012 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintPauly (Post 392755)
I think if he wasn't interested Danno, he would have already said so. Parcell's isn't one for not letting people know how he feels, that's for sure. lol

And he just did, kinda'


Quote:

"Do I have the bug?" Parcells said. "I don't think so."

NFL.com news: Bill Parcells: 'I don't think' I have urge to coach again


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