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Boutte 03-30-2012 01:12 PM

Why not bring in a young upcoming coach that you'd like to get to know in case of any future vacancies on the staff? Tell him bring his family and make a mini-vacation out of it? Interview him over lunch at Dragos, tell you appreciate his time then hire Parcells. What's so freaking hard about that?

saintsfan1976 03-30-2012 05:09 PM

Ugh. Dragos blows. Sorry, I had to throw that in..

CheramieIII 03-30-2012 07:17 PM

You wanna know what if the Saints want to hire a freaking alien to do the job I'm OK with that and I'm sorry Bill Parcells is more qualified than any black man alive. Now why would I need to waste my time interviewing a black candidate. Herm shut your mouth and get back to not doing a very good job at what you do.

MistaBigXXL 03-30-2012 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 394012)
You wanna know what if the Saints want to hire a freaking alien to do the job I'm OK with that and I'm sorry Bill Parcells is more qualified than any black man alive. Now why would I need to waste my time interviewing a black candidate. Herm shut your mouth and get back to not doing a very good job at what you do.

Black people aren't the only minority in this country. Just saying.

42alpha saint 03-30-2012 10:20 PM

Herm is just jealous that he doesnt have a shot at it. Hes got to be thinking man how would it make me look to be the interim guy for a team that can operate on auto pilot and be a Super Bowl contender. That way I get to walk around on the sideline with a stupid grin on my face, all the while thinking I cant believe Im getting paid what I am for doing what I do, which is absolutely nothing. I agree Be quiet Herm, quit desperately seeking attention and crawl back in your corner where you belong, youve done nothing but destroy every team youve ever coached. Wait, Herm doesnt even know what a super bowl contending team looks like.

alleycat_126 03-30-2012 10:34 PM

He's paid to give his opinion people. An ESPN funded opinion. This story surfaces every time a coach is already picked by ownership before quality candidates are interview. Dallas had the same article posted about them when Wade was fired and Garrett took over. They interviewed someone in house, with no problem. I don't see why this is newsworthy..

UK_WhoDat 03-31-2012 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 393868)
......Here's an idea I'd be OK with... Have all 32 teams set up at least one interview with a minority candidate regardless of their coaching situation. After all, one of its main benefits is to get minority coaches accustomed to the interview process and it also gives 32 teams better insight and information on minority coaches throughout the league.

It may be a bit patronizing, but no more than the original rule itself

Nail on head, right there.

Hey at the end of it all, award the STAR "minority" interviewee with a NFL-sponsored secondment to be an under-Head Coach. :twisted:

UK_WhoDat 03-31-2012 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MistaBigXXL (Post 394029)
Black people aren't the only minority in this country. Just saying.

I wondered how long it would take someone to realise that.

CheramieIII 03-31-2012 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MistaBigXXL (Post 394029)
Black people aren't the only minority in this country. Just saying.

Understand that bit u know where jerk was going with that

jeanpierre 03-31-2012 08:24 AM

As an owner, you have the right to do what you want with your team, including hiring who you want...

And if that means you don't want to hire a minority - you have that right, even if it means denying yourself some very talented men who could help you get your team to a good place...

Eventually, you'll find yourself all alone...

Danno 03-31-2012 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MistaBigXXL (Post 394029)
Black people aren't the only minority in this country. Just saying.

I think we can pretty much agree which minority Herm was speaking of.

My guess is that Herm thinks the rule applies to one minority and one minority only, but thats just a hunch.

Tobias-Reiper 03-31-2012 09:55 AM

... as much as Herm made a mockery of an NFL HC position and is now making a mockery of a TV sports analyst, he should know a thing or two about mockery...

Pretty stupid argument by Edwards (then again...)

First, the Saints don't need a coach, they need a 9-month media handler who's going to deflect attention media attention from Spagnuolo and Pete.

Second, and I posted this over at the Revolution,I understand the point of giving minorities a chance to interview even if only for the benefit of them getting some experience in the interviewing process, but in the case of the Saints, what experience can anyone gain for interviewing for the interim HC position that one can use in future interviews? The interview is going to go something like:

Loomis: "OK, Mr. Minority Candidate, we have had the #1 offense for the past 6 years, how exactly are you not going to interfere with Pete, Drew, and the rest of the offense?"
Mr. Minority Candidate: "Well, the playbook.."
Loomis: "Yeah, no, you don't touch the playbook. Matter of fact, you don't even get to look at it from a distance, since most likely Atlanta will hire you next year in a fruitless attempt to figure out how to stop this juggernaut."
Mr. Minority Candidate: ... well.. I am more of a defen..."
Loomis: Yeah, no... Spags is here and we already gave him the keys to the City of Defense.. Well, thank you for coming in today to talk to us. I sincerely hope you can use this experience in the future when there's another 1-year interim HC position for a SB contender with the best offense in half a decade. Have a nice day... oh, and please, on your way out, ask Mr. Parcells how he likes that new leather massage chair we put in the corner office and let him know we got his favorite pen in blue ink as he requested to sign this contract. Thanks again!"

nicebush25 03-31-2012 10:18 AM

interview norm chow for spite

Supertek 04-03-2012 01:20 PM

I think the Rooney rule is a mockery in and of itself

skymike 04-03-2012 05:10 PM

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

we're still trying to get BILL PARCELLS !!!!!!!!!!

WAHOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rugby Saint II 04-03-2012 10:26 PM

It's foolish to expect a minority to interview even when you know who your next coach is already. Don't think I'm being racist I'm not. "I'm a realist not a racist."

pumpkindriver 04-06-2012 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 394073)
... as much as Herm made a mockery of an NFL HC position and is now making a mockery of a TV sports analyst, he should know a thing or two about mockery...

Pretty stupid argument by Edwards (then again...)

First, the Saints don't need a coach, they need a 9-month media handler who's going to deflect attention media attention from Spagnuolo and Pete.

Second, and I posted this over at the Revolution,I understand the point of giving minorities a chance to interview even if only for the benefit of them getting some experience in the interviewing process, but in the case of the Saints, what experience can anyone gain for interviewing for the interim HC position that one can use in future interviews? The interview is going to go something like:

Loomis: "OK, Mr. Minority Candidate, we have had the #1 offense for the past 6 years, how exactly are you not going to interfere with Pete, Drew, and the rest of the offense?"
Mr. Minority Candidate: "Well, the playbook.."
Loomis: "Yeah, no, you don't touch the playbook. Matter of fact, you don't even get to look at it from a distance, since most likely Atlanta will hire you next year in a fruitless attempt to figure out how to stop this juggernaut."
Mr. Minority Candidate: ... well.. I am more of a defen..."
Loomis: Yeah, no... Spags is here and we already gave him the keys to the City of Defense.. Well, thank you for coming in today to talk to us. I sincerely hope you can use this experience in the future when there's another 1-year interim HC position for a SB contender with the best offense in half a decade. Have a nice day... oh, and please, on your way out, ask Mr. Parcells how he likes that new leather massage chair we put in the corner office and let him know we got his favorite pen in blue ink as he requested to sign this contract. Thanks again!"

That was funny, great job. But then again , almost every post on this thread was good. Thx Everybody for saying everything that needed to be said!

gandhi1007 04-06-2012 06:40 PM

First off, the Rooney Rule itself is racist. Why should anyone HAVE to interview a candidate strictly off of skin color instead of merit & past job performance??? There are great coaches of all race, color, & creed. GM's should not have to entertain the notion of forced interviews with coaches based on skin color.......period!

OldMaid 04-06-2012 11:01 PM

I thought the minority rule was that no big name, proven coach can coach the Saints as part of the punishment. I am so obsessed with the punihsment. It seems everything revolves around the punishment and to make sure, by any means nec., the Saints fail. Fail. FALL!!! FAIL and FALL!!!!!!!
I read further, oh, minority minority.
I am not going there. No energy here.

Parcells issued a statement he wasn't interested.

Who? That is the question.

halloween 65 04-15-2012 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MistaBigXXL (Post 394029)
Black people aren't the only minority in this country. Just saying.

I agree!! I'm a white, male, I am a minority, think Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton would help me out. I don't. Just saying. My question is who really gets descriminated against now days and when does all this sreaming of descrimination end? Today I learrned that 51% of Americans do not pay taxes and get refunds and would not take a pee test!!! Me, I pay my taxes, do not get free cheese from Uncle Sam and have to take from 4- 10 pee test to stay employed, so ole' Herm Edwards and all the people on free cheese that want work that say they will and don't want to pee in a cup can spend all their free money from their free taxes can all go to hell as far as I am concerned. They can also sit down and tell me just how bad it really is to be a minority, be my guest!!!!! Call me Herm, we'll talk....


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