i wonder if your other 173 post are as informative as this gem

payton did not lie evidently, he is appealing if that means anything. is he going to admit he lied now ? for a lighter sentence, ala pete rose saga

Which just makes the whole thing more maddening because we are being told the severity of the punishment is because he 'lied' and 'covered it up', but I haven't found anything that he did either, only that in Roger's opinion he didn't do enough. :brood:

Goddell is the one that's lying, sure Payton might have covered the bounty thing up but every time Goddell opens his mouth about player safety he's lying through his teeth, if he cared so much about player safety why does he push an 18 game season every chance he gets ..... he's in it for the all mighty dollar and to cover his rear in the PR nightmare that's coming when the 500 plus ex players sue the NFL

First of all how in the hell do you have 50k pages about the bounty program. Seriously that seems ridiculous. They must have been texting like little school girls.

the 50K pages were the teams total e-mail correspondence for the time, I speculate 10% or less of that 50K had anything to do with bounties...

Right - but the media keeps saying over and over there are 50 thousand 'pages of evidence'. It is understanding that people would think all this crazy stuff because the media representation has been such crap.

Us serfs don't need to know. Comrade Goodell said he did and that's all we need to know. Zieg Hiel, comrade Goodell.

You just can't lie. Ask Mike Vick how that worked out for him.

Way less. WAY less than 10% had anything to do with bounties. The league is talking about 1 or 2 emails and 2 or 3 power point slides out of the 50K pages of documents that they looked at. Specifically the one email from Ornstein before the Packers game, and 2 or 3 power point slides from team meetings that referenced the "cart offs" or "bring out the John Deere" or whatever it was. All of which could easily have been tongue in cheek, or skating the line.

Of course they say it was 50K pages of "evidence" and that "forensic experts" were consulted, to make their case sound more solid or more extensive than it really is.