Saints 2012 schedule

SloMotion · 04-20-2012, 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Well, they already got the Lakers from there if I remember correctly, so I guess it's only logical that they also take their NFL team.

In some cases the city decides to keep the franchise name, like what happened with Cleveland and the Browns, so I wonder if Minnesota could still keep the Vikings franchise even if they ended up losing the team?

I'm not sure who decides that or how it works, but I do remember reading about it some time a go, but I can't remember how exactly it worked.

Also, I think some stadium bill got rejected in SoCal within past days, so I'm not sure if LA are even able to receive a team at the moment or even in a year's time - don't know what the bill was about.

Oh yeah, the Lakers did start out in Minnesota ... that deal in Cleveland with the name, I think the City sued whoever bought the team for the right to keep the name "Browns" if the team relocated, so I assume Minnesota would have to take legal action to keep "Vikings" ... they weren't too concerned when the Lakers & North Stars left, probably won't fight for 'Vikings' either.

SaintsBro · 04-18-2012, 05:40 PM

I feel like that Chargers home game is going to be legendary, a blowout for the ages, up there with Colts and Patriots in terms of an OH YEAHHHHH kind of game.

FinSaint · 04-18-2012, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

I feel like that Chargers home game is going to be legendary, a blowout for the ages, up there with Colts and Patriots in terms of an OH YEAHHHHH kind of game.

Meachem's homecoming.

Danno · 04-18-2012, 08:31 PM

When you're elite the schedule only scares those teams that have to play us.

skymike · 04-19-2012, 04:32 PM

I love this schedule. Its not easy, no. But it has a bunch of teams I
want to clobber. #1: 49ers. My hatred of the 9'ers is back.

FinSaint · 04-20-2012, 07:13 AM

Well, that is one thing I've read many former LA Rams' fans talk about, like how they should've hold on to the Rams franchise even when the team itself relocated, so that they could re-brand a potential new team as the Rams.

Of course, LA wasn't even the original city of the Rams franchise, but they don't seem to be aware of that or choose to disregard that little bit of history.

I don't know, it would be so weird to see the Vikings relocate to LA, and I'd certainly prefer it if they seized to be the Vikings if the team moved there - just like I would've preferred it with the North Stars as well.

lynwood · 04-20-2012, 08:57 AM

I think that the State(MN) shouldn't have to flip the bill for a new stadium. Why have owners if they can't build their own stadium. Tax Breaks yes. Loan yes. Not flip the whole bill.

FinSaint · 04-20-2012, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by lynwood

I think that the State(MN) shouldn't have to flip the bill for a new stadium. Why have owners if they can't build their own stadium. Tax Breaks yes. Loan yes. Not flip the whole bill.

They aren't flipping the whole bill by any stretch of meaning. The owner Zygi Wilf is actually proposing to pay more of the overall bill than other owners have in the past - except of course for Jerry Jones.

The thing is that why should Wilf pay for the whole thing? The project is going to provide many jobs and the structure itself is going to be in the center of the metropolis area - where Metrodome is located at the moment.

And if you add all the monetary income the Vikings provide either directly or indirectly to the twin cities and to the state, it would only be logical that the team shouldn't be the only one having to pay for their stadium.

The basketball team didn't have to... the baseball team didn't have to... and the hockey team didn't have to either... so why should the football team's owner be the only one who has to pay for it all?

Also, if the owner should pay for the whole thing, then why shouldn't he/she just move the team to a better market area where his/her profit margins would be much greater than in Minnesota and the Minneapolis/St. Paul area?

I mean if the State and the cities don't show loyalty to the team in helping them build a new stadium for them, then why should the team show the state and the cities any loyalty in return.

It's a very difficult situation which has been going on for years now, and at least in my opinion the Vikings have been more than understanding of the cities' and the state's needs and limitations, and they have provided them with numerous alternative plans on where to build the stadium and how to finance the build. So, I won't blame Wilf if he decides to move the team or to sell it in light of these recent developments.

lee909 · 04-21-2012, 06:13 AM

How exactly do they work out the schedule?
I know you play each team in the division twice and then the better teams get harder schedules.With this being the case how exactly do the Oatriots get the easy schedule they do other than being GODell pets.
Only going on the road to play a playoff/championship contender once.
It stinks

Danno · 04-21-2012, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

How exactly do they work out the schedule?
I know you play each team in the division twice and then the better teams get harder schedules.With this being the case how exactly do the Oatriots get the easy schedule they do other than being GODell pets.
Only going on the road to play a playoff/championship contender once.
It stinks

The schedule is pre-determined. Currently we know who and where we'll play for the next 100 years (except for the 2 standings related teams, which is detrmined by each teams divisional standings).

The ONLY variable is when we play those teams.

04-18-2012, 06:07 PM	#3
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Originally Posted by SaintsBro I feel like that Chargers home game is going to be legendary, a blowout for the ages, up there with Colts and Patriots in terms of an OH YEAHHHHH kind of game. Meachem's homecoming.

04-18-2012, 08:31 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	When you're elite the schedule only scares those teams that have to play us. TheOak, SaintsBro, jokeray and 1 others like this.

04-20-2012, 07:13 AM	#6
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Well, that is one thing I've read many former LA Rams' fans talk about, like how they should've hold on to the Rams franchise even when the team itself relocated, so that they could re-brand a potential new team as the Rams. Of course, LA wasn't even the original city of the Rams franchise, but they don't seem to be aware of that or choose to disregard that little bit of history. I don't know, it would be so weird to see the Vikings relocate to LA, and I'd certainly prefer it if they seized to be the Vikings if the team moved there - just like I would've preferred it with the North Stars as well. SloMotion likes this.
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

04-20-2012, 01:32 PM	#8
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Originally Posted by lynwood I think that the State(MN) shouldn't have to flip the bill for a new stadium. Why have owners if they can't build their own stadium. Tax Breaks yes. Loan yes. Not flip the whole bill. They aren't flipping the whole bill by any stretch of meaning. The owner Zygi Wilf is actually proposing to pay more of the overall bill than other owners have in the past - except of course for Jerry Jones. The thing is that why should Wilf pay for the whole thing? The project is going to provide many jobs and the structure itself is going to be in the center of the metropolis area - where Metrodome is located at the moment. And if you add all the monetary income the Vikings provide either directly or indirectly to the twin cities and to the state, it would only be logical that the team shouldn't be the only one having to pay for their stadium. The basketball team didn't have to... the baseball team didn't have to... and the hockey team didn't have to either... so why should the football team's owner be the only one who has to pay for it all? Also, if the owner should pay for the whole thing, then why shouldn't he/she just move the team to a better market area where his/her profit margins would be much greater than in Minnesota and the Minneapolis/St. Paul area? I mean if the State and the cities don't show loyalty to the team in helping them build a new stadium for them, then why should the team show the state and the cities any loyalty in return. It's a very difficult situation which has been going on for years now, and at least in my opinion the Vikings have been more than understanding of the cities' and the state's needs and limitations, and they have provided them with numerous alternative plans on where to build the stadium and how to finance the build. So, I won't blame Wilf if he decides to move the team or to sell it in light of these recent developments.
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

04-21-2012, 08:40 AM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	Originally Posted by lee909 How exactly do they work out the schedule? I know you play each team in the division twice and then the better teams get harder schedules.With this being the case how exactly do the Oatriots get the easy schedule they do other than being GODell pets. Only going on the road to play a playoff/championship contender once. It stinks The schedule is pre-determined. Currently we know who and where we'll play for the next 100 years (except for the 2 standings related teams, which is detrmined by each teams divisional standings). The ONLY variable is when we play those teams.

04-20-2012, 06:04 AM	#1
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Originally Posted by FinSaint Well, they already got the Lakers from there if I remember correctly, so I guess it's only logical that they also take their NFL team. In some cases the city decides to keep the franchise name, like what happened with Cleveland and the Browns, so I wonder if Minnesota could still keep the Vikings franchise even if they ended up losing the team? I'm not sure who decides that or how it works, but I do remember reading about it some time a go, but I can't remember how exactly it worked. Also, I think some stadium bill got rejected in SoCal within past days, so I'm not sure if LA are even able to receive a team at the moment or even in a year's time - don't know what the bill was about. Oh yeah, the Lakers did start out in Minnesota ... that deal in Cleveland with the name, I think the City sued whoever bought the team for the right to keep the name "Browns" if the team relocated, so I assume Minnesota would have to take legal action to keep "Vikings" ... they weren't too concerned when the Lakers & North Stars left, probably won't fight for 'Vikings' either.

04-18-2012, 05:40 PM	#2
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	I feel like that Chargers home game is going to be legendary, a blowout for the ages, up there with Colts and Patriots in terms of an OH YEAHHHHH kind of game.

04-19-2012, 04:32 PM	#5
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	I love this schedule. Its not easy, no. But it has a bunch of teams I want to clobber. #1: 49ers. My hatred of the 9'ers is back.

04-20-2012, 08:57 AM	#7
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	I think that the State(MN) shouldn't have to flip the bill for a new stadium. Why have owners if they can't build their own stadium. Tax Breaks yes. Loan yes. Not flip the whole bill.

04-21-2012, 06:13 AM	#9
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	How exactly do they work out the schedule? I know you play each team in the division twice and then the better teams get harder schedules.With this being the case how exactly do the Oatriots get the easy schedule they do other than being GODell pets. Only going on the road to play a playoff/championship contender once. It stinks

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