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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; If Saints G.M. Mickey Loomis truly used an eavesdropping system to listen to communications involving opposing coaches from 2002 through 2004, one of the teams whose communications would have been intercepted was the Dallas Cowboys, in 2003. And Saints coach ...

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Old 04-24-2012, 12:36 PM   #1
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Most sense Florio has made in recorded history!

If Saints G.M. Mickey Loomis truly used an eavesdropping system to listen to communications involving opposing coaches from 2002 through 2004, one of the teams whose communications would have been intercepted was the Dallas Cowboys, in 2003.

And Saints coach Sean Payton was a member of the Dallas coaching staff in 2003.

Specifically, Payton was the assistant head coach/quarterbacks coach. He coached from the sidelines, not the booth, so anything he was saying to the guys upstairs and anything they were saying to him could have been intercepted.

Again, this assumes that the allegations that Loomis had a system for listening are true. (No one has alleged yet that Loomis actually used the system.)

If it happened, maybe Payton wasn’t really a victim. Maybe Loomis was listening to get an idea of the guys who could and couldn’t perform well under duress — and maybe Loomis liked enough what he heard to put Payton in play to become the next head coach of the Saints, in 2006.

Frankly, that explanation makes a lot more sense that the notion that Loomis was, within the 40 seconds before the snap, listening to what was being said by the opposing coaches, making sense of what it meant, and then communicating that information to someone on the coaching staff who would interpret it and relay it to the coaches on the sidelines and then the players on the field in whatever time remained until the ball was hiked.

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It still doesn't matter. Goodell and the FBI would still attempt to do something about it regardless of his intention, if they find any evidence to support it IMO.
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Old 04-24-2012, 01:46 PM   #3
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Thats the thing, there is no evidence. Goodell needs to just put this to rest. No tapes, no loomis admitting and no worker to stand up. Why is this even a issue?
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Originally Posted by voodooido View Post
no worker to stand up.
Exactly. Everyone please be sane and rational when addressing this story.

If the system really existed, and if it was changed/altered when Loomis took over in 2002, and then taken out completely in 2005, somebody had to do that work, and that person has a name and they had to know what they were doing, in order to do it. Find them. Talk to them. There will be records of who worked for the company that did the work, during the time period, who was on the job and who was not, who was the supervisor, how much was paid, EXACTLY what work was done, etc. Also in the case of the Katrina renovations ("the system was taken out after Katrina") there will be documentation of damage prior to them touching anything, and also detailed documentation of ANY change that was made to the Dome, any system anywhere within it. If it happened, this stuff was ALL written down. It's not like Loomis has an electrical engineering degree and could get in there and do it all by himself. And if you're a worker, you don't just go behind your supervisor's back and change the work order you were given, because somebody in a suit walks over and tells you to switch the wires around.
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I think Goodell wears dresses and plays with himself at night while watching MASH reruns. In fact, I've seen him do it, several times, because John Clayton used to come over and take pictures for Pat Yasinskas. Ashley Fox is a lesbian and got a thrill out of those pictures.
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I think Goodell wears dresses and plays with himself at night while watching MASH reruns. In fact, I've seen him do it, several times, because John Clayton used to come over and take pictures for Pat Yasinskas. Ashley Fox is a lesbian and got a thrill out of those pictures.
Excuse me! Fox is the one who gave him the dresses in the first place!
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"Maybe", just maybe it was timed to hit before the player punishments are handed down?

If we piss off the pope bad enough, he will be very heavy handed on the player punishments and that will certainly cripple the Saints.
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Old 04-24-2012, 05:23 PM   #8
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"Maybe", just maybe it was timed to hit before the player punishments are handed down?

If we piss off the pope bad enough, he will be very heavy handed on the player punishments and that will certainly cripple the Saints.
I think this is the answer. It was the first thing that came to my mind....
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Old 04-24-2012, 04:46 PM   #9
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Isn't our record from those years enough evidence against said accusations?
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Yep, exactly like the release of the Gregg Williams pre-game speech being released one day before the Saint's appeals.
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