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Speedy Ron 04-25-2012 02:54 PM

Falcons sign Asante Samuel
 
I dont really care but maybe someone does. i cant remember the last time this guy was relevant.

Falcons acquired CB Asante Samuel from the Eagles in exchange for a late-round draft pick.

The pick is believed to be a 2012 sixth-rounder (6.22), leaving Atlanta with just five selections in the 2012 draft, and none before the 55th choice. Samuel will presumably slide in at left cornerback, with Brent Grimes seeing slot work and Dunta Robinson manning the right side. Still a playmaker at age 31, Samuel has earned a Pro Bowl berth in four of the past five seasons while averaging 6.5 interceptions over the last six. The Falcons haven't upgraded their pass rush much, but they absolutely have a good-looking secondary.

Danno 04-25-2012 02:59 PM

He's a good CB. The Falcons just got better, although they over-paid.

From what I've heard they'll have to cut someone just to get under the cap though.

WhoDat!656 04-25-2012 03:06 PM

Just another victim for Brees & Co.!!

pherein 04-25-2012 03:16 PM

Well coming from Philly, the Atlanta fans shouldn't be much of a shock for him:)
Unfortunately for Samuel, he's moved from CB in a division were the QB's are not that hard to play to NFCS. Where he's against Brees, Cam, and Freeman. He's not going to be as effective in this division.

saintfan 04-25-2012 03:39 PM

I don't want to sell him short, but his best days are a few years in his past at this point. I think Atlanta is reaching.

TheEnigma 04-25-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 400464)
He's a good CB. The Falcons just got better, although they over-paid.

From what I've heard they'll have to cut someone just to get under the cap though.

I don't agree. He is 31 years old and his best years are behind him. I think the falcons did make a reach here. He'll get burned in coverage anyway, just ask Duante Robinson about that.

FinSaint 04-25-2012 03:58 PM

With that price tag I'm glad they traded for him, that is unless they get him to either restructure or to sign a completely new contract, but I doubt that'll happen.

Still, I would've liked to see him sign with the Saints if it would've been for around $2M/year, because I think he still is a quality corner.

biloxi-indian 04-25-2012 04:15 PM

Eagles get a 7th round pick.

AllSaints 04-25-2012 05:15 PM

Hmmmm idk what to think about this helps out the falcons but I don't think it will make a big difference ....

voodooido 04-25-2012 05:22 PM

Another 5'8 cb against our 6'5 TE and 6'4 wrs.

Beastmode 04-25-2012 05:24 PM

When your nemesis is Drew Brees this is not a bad pick-up. Has he lost a step..yep, but he's no Ashley Ambrose, the man can play. I give credit to the Falcons for at least making an honest effort to stop Brees.

|Mitch| 04-25-2012 05:35 PM

I wonder what his price tag will be, how is the Falcons cap looking now? :mrgreen:

AsylumGuido 04-25-2012 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 400516)
I wonder what his price tag will be, how is the Falcons cap looking now? :mrgreen:

Three years and $18 million. Not sure how it is structured, though.

Danno 04-25-2012 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 400507)
Another 5'8 cb against our 6'5 TE and 6'4 wrs.

CB height is over-rated since most of them can dunk a basketball with their elbows, but 5-8 is pretty short.

|Mitch| 04-25-2012 05:58 PM

5'8" is gonna have a hard time out jumping Colston or Graham...

pherein 04-25-2012 06:26 PM

Though I am wondering if Samuel's ability to cover was propagated by being a DB in 2 divisions that typically had week to moderate QB play. When at NE, he faced jets,dolphins, and bills. When with philly he faced redskins,cowboys, and giants.

Eli just started to play well, and is an interception machine. So Romo is probably the best he faced division wise on a regular basis.
At 5ft 8" ,NFCS has pretty large receivers averaging 6ft 2", and he's facing Brees,Freeman, and Cam. Should be interesting to see how he handles the change.

halloween 65 04-25-2012 06:29 PM

We are still going to score 40 on the clowns with or without him.

Danno 04-25-2012 06:30 PM

Run at him. I've heard he's weak against the run so the dump offs and WR screens may produce big results on his side of the field.

Rugby Saint II 04-25-2012 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 400528)
Run at him. I've heard he's weak against the run so the dump offs and WR screens may produce big results on his side of the field.

I like the way you think.:bng:

QBREES9 04-25-2012 10:51 PM

I think might have overpaid.

alleycat_126 04-25-2012 11:00 PM

They got better, Asante at one corner, Brent Grimes at the other, Robinson in the slot!!!! Robinson is the weakest of the three and thats were we will attack.

QBREES9 04-25-2012 11:01 PM

Their still the FalClowns !

Luda34 04-25-2012 11:37 PM

Samuels with Grimes on the other side and Dauta playing the nickel. I don't know guys and the master mind SP will be out for the year. The Falcowns got a little better today.

caddieman 04-26-2012 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Luda34 (Post 400606)
Samuels with Grimes on the other side and Dauta playing the nickel. I don't know guys and the master mind SP will be out for the year. The Falcowns got a little better today.

Congrats for not being a Homer, and looking at it from a football standpoint. And to all who said we over reached and paid too much, you need to wake up and smell the coffee! A 7th round pick for a 4 time pro-bowler. If you guys would have made that trade you would be saying it was the trade of the decade! Oh yea, and here you go too!

2011 - 61 targets 4.4 yards per pass (#3 in NFL) 67% success rate (#3 in NFL) 2.0 yac (#2 in NFL)

Budsdrinker 04-26-2012 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by caddieman (Post 400623)
Congrats for not being a Homer, and looking at it from a football standpoint. And to all who said we over reached and paid too much, you need to wake up and smell the coffee! A 7th round pick for a 4 time pro-bowler. If you guys would have made that trade you would be saying it was the trade of the decade! Oh yea, and here you go too!

2011 - 61 targets 4.4 yards per pass (#3 in NFL) 67% success rate (#3 in NFL) 2.0 yac (#2 in NFL)

You still need a pass rush!

jcp026 04-26-2012 07:57 AM

Sounds like a lot of sour grapes over here.

Jack Vegas 04-26-2012 08:03 AM

He's still good, but there's really no one cover corner out there that Brees can't find a way to beat. This may improve the Falcons chances against other teams, but I don't see it as being any real factor against us.

NuNu318 04-26-2012 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 400634)
He's still good, but there's really no one cover corner out there that Brees can't find a way to beat. This may improve the Falcons chances against other teams, but I don't see it as being any real factor against us.

He's only played against us once since Brees has been in N.O. he had 5 tackles no INTs. We did beat them 48-22 but its not a lot to go on cuz that was the only game he played against us. I think he's still good enough to start. I think he'll have some trouble with this division but we just have to see. I see him as more of a great route jumper more than anything. He's a high risk high reward type of CB. I've seen him get burned before because of his risk taking. Its a good pickup for the Falcons can't hate on it, at the same time I don't see Brees really struggling with throwing on his side of the field because I feel confident Colston can out physical & out jump him. He def can't cover Graham.

pherein 04-26-2012 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by caddieman (Post 400623)
Congrats for not being a Homer, and looking at it from a football standpoint. And to all who said we over reached and paid too much, you need to wake up and smell the coffee! A 7th round pick for a 4 time pro-bowler. If you guys would have made that trade you would be saying it was the trade of the decade! Oh yea, and here you go too!

2011 - 61 targets 4.4 yards per pass (#3 in NFL) 67% success rate (#3 in NFL) 2.0 yac (#2 in NFL)

This is has Blanks stamp written all over it. Falcons are 1-11 vs SP/ Brees Saints era in NFCS. They are trying to find a way of stoping the saints passing game. If Smith loses 2 division games again this season vs the Saints, I would not be surprised to see him replaced next season.

No, not really. Pro baller pass tense, you want the CB during his PB year caddy. I think he's very good, but I also know he comes from weak QB divisions, and Eli is an interception machine.

I think it was a great move. One you have no choice but to do. It explains why probably Blank didn't care about lofton, and the money spent. I think everyone agrees your much better with him. Im just interested to see how he responds to a division only great to elite QB's. He has his work cut out for him. But its a great accusation.

RedWings44 04-26-2012 08:20 AM

There was a guy on the Lions site asking why we went after him last year, and let him go by this year. The rest of us listed a whole bunch of reasons. Don't feel bad (for those who do) that you didn't get him either. He is too old, declining performance last year, too big of a contract for only a few 'good' years.

jcp026 04-26-2012 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RedWings44 (Post 400639)
There was a guy on the Lions site asking why we went after him last year, and let him go by this year. The rest of us listed a whole bunch of reasons. Don't feel bad (for those who do) that you didn't get him either. He is too old, declining performance last year, too big of a contract for only a few 'good' years.

A few "good years" is all the Falcons need to get to call it a good deal. He only has a three year deal and they only gave up a 7th round pick. Come on, guys.

Danno 04-26-2012 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by caddieman (Post 400623)
Congrats for not being a Homer, and looking at it from a football standpoint. And to all who said we over reached and paid too much, you need to wake up and smell the coffee! A 7th round pick for a 4 time pro-bowler. If you guys would have made that trade you would be saying it was the trade of the decade! Oh yea, and here you go too!

2011 - 61 targets 4.4 yards per pass (#3 in NFL) 67% success rate (#3 in NFL) 2.0 yac (#2 in NFL)

When I said overpaid I was referring to his contract, not the pick you gave up. But if you look at it objectively, the contract plus the draft pick = overpaid.

You got a good player and your team got better, but you overpaid. But this is the time of year when almost everyone overpays for that missing ingredient or overpays to fill a gaping hole somewhere, so no big deal really.

We overpaid for several players on our team.

Supertek 04-26-2012 10:35 AM

You can say that again Danno as far as overpaying on defense. That is why I can see a several people being let go hopefully before the hammer comes down from goodell. Ellis should be one of them. Question is who is left standing and who are we going to replace Harper with. Maybe move Jenkins there but again we dont know if he will be a casuality also. wish we could have made a move at SS but there are just so many needs.

Danno 04-26-2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Supertek (Post 400673)
You can say that again Danno as far as overpaying on defense. That is why I can see a several people being let go hopefully before the hammer comes down from goodell. Ellis should be one of them. Question is who is left standing and who are we going to replace Harper with. Maybe move Jenkins there but again we dont know if he will be a casuality also. wish we could have made a move at SS but there are just so many needs.

Harper's contract and cap hit are virtually guaranteed for the 2012 season, and probably 2013 as well.

We can not move him.

Ellis, thats a different story. The fact that he hasn't restructured may be a sign that he's a goner if we can get a couple more DT's on board either thru the draft or remaining free-agency.

VillainAgain 04-26-2012 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pherein (Post 400525)
Though I am wondering if Samuel's ability to cover was propagated by being a DB in 2 divisions that typically had week to moderate QB play. When at NE, he faced jets,dolphins, and bills. When with philly he faced redskins,cowboys, and giants.

Eli just started to play well, and is an interception machine. So Romo is probably the best he faced division wise on a regular basis.
At 5ft 8" ,NFCS has pretty large receivers averaging 6ft 2", and he's facing Brees,Freeman, and Cam. Should be interesting to see how he handles the change.

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Atlanta got better but Since Brees and Super Bowl Winning Coach Sean Payton came to N.O. The Offense always has been efficient and march the ball up and down the field on a regular basis and on top of that while he was an eagle we still bust that ssa so I dont see what it would stop.

Eli has 2 Super Bowl Championships hes been playing well for years hes always been my back up QB in Fantasy Football lets be real Brees and Cam are the best in divison Qb he'll see Freeman is pretty good but we'll find out what Vincent Jkson does

RedWings44 04-26-2012 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jcp026 (Post 400643)
A few "good years" is all the Falcons need to get to call it a good deal. He only has a three year deal and they only gave up a 7th round pick. Come on, guys.

Notice the good was in quotations. It was more indicating sarcasm than an actual quote. Thing is, his performance was declining. Had we gotten him last year (the Lions), he would have fit right in with what our current CB's did. As you guys know from when we played one another, that wasn't much

leilung 04-27-2012 06:11 AM

He's been marginal at best in Philly and a cancer due to his selfishness. Falcons just got problems and no better at that position.

Bad for them, great for Drew!


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