Osi Umenyiora: If you trade for me, you won’t have to redo my contract
 

Giants defensive end Osi Umenyiora is using the day before the draft to send a message to the other 31 teams in the NFL.

Tom Rock of Newsday spoke to Umenyiora about what the future holds for him. Umenyiora admitted to some uncertainty about whether it is best for him to stay with the Giants, but then moved on to letting other teams know what they’d be getting if they were to make a trade to acquire him.

Umenyiora, who has fought with the Giants about renegotiating his contract for most of the last few years, told Rock that a team trading for him wouldn’t need to redo his contract. Umenyiora has complained about his backup status with the Giants and could feel like a starting role on another team would best set him up to hit free agency next year. This would be the optimal time for the Giants to trade Umenyiora, something he clearly knows, and making his willingness to play under his current deal — a reasonable $3.975 million for this season — is a good way to generate some interest.

It’s hardly guaranteed to work, however. While Jason La Canfora of the NFL Network thinks “things could get interesting” if someone offers a third-round pick, the Giants weren’t willing to part with Umenyiora for a second-round pick last summer. It’s a different time, obviously, and the Giants might feel like they’re tired of the constant drama that Umenyiora brings to the table, but he’s a valuable part of their defense and they probably aren’t feeling too much pressure to let him go.

Osi Umenyiora: If you trade for me, you won

Make it happen Loomis!!

I am all about this trade if we can afford it.

I would love to see Osi in NOLA.

LETS GO AFTER OSI
 

WHAT YALL THINK? THE GUYS A PROVEN WINNER AND GOD KNOWS WE NEED HELP WITH PRESSURE. OPPOSING QB'S CAN SIT BACK IN THE POCKET AND EAT A WHOLE "WHO DAT" SUPER NACHO THEN COMPLETE THE PASS

Omm trade him for smith and a 3rd to free cap up

Osi Umenyiora Contract, Salaries, and Transactions

Will Smith Contract, Salaries, and Transactions

No, to much money!!

I agree with you halloween, not worth it with that price tag - the Saints would have to do a lot of moving around to fit his salary under the cap, and the gain they would get with bringing him in would be diminished by those who would have to leave in order to make the deal work.

First, IMHO, no.

Now a few questions to enhance the discussion;

1. Where are the Saints going to find the $3.975mm for Osi one-year contract?

2. Would you do it if it means the Saints cannot sign Brees to a long-term contract this year?

3. Giants are supposedly in need of a RB. Would you trade P. Thomas and his $2.2mm 2012 salary (year 2 of a 4 year deal) for Osi? Saints still would have to pony up $1.75mm for Osi in 2012. Releasing Shanle would do it?

This should get lively! :)

I am all about doing anything that has the words "releasing Shanle" in it! :lol:

Would like for him to be n black n gold but ..... What do we give for him ?

No way they would take Smith and his contract when he would be on the bench. Maybe just the 3rd would lure them in.

YES! PLEASE GO GET HIM Loomis! 3M is a freaking steal for this guy. He should instantly make a huge difference for our team. An opportunity to get a DE of his caliber at such a great price doesn’t come around often!

Fine just offer a 3rd, and promise we won't wiretap or pay to kill eli this time.
But not both, everyone knows we need our cheats to win ;)

I just can't see this happening if we can't restructure smiths, and Harpers contracts.

I don't see this happening...

I did a piece on this.. New Orleans Saints Should Look To Trade For Osi Umenyiora : New Orleans Saints

No thanks. He might be cheap right now, but you'll need to re-sign him after next year & he'll be a lot more expensive then.

Does he play DT? Then no.

The Saints were actually four mill under cap this was including Drew Brees current 14.5 figure and restructurings of Smith, Vilma, Greer( Before the resignings of Kasay, and Cassillas!!!) It's possible to get up under the cap enough in order to get Osi in. Release Shanle!!!!

This pickup would make it a no brainer that DT would be your pick when you pick!!! And would make our DE rotation match our LB rotation!!!!!

Give Spags more weapons to fiddle with!!!!

Also for this I think the ideal of releasing some players could help that are already going to be compromised anyway. We need to get some more defensive players that are not going to be subjected to this bounty business. Time to let someone go.

3rd round and Will Smith. Yes!

This does two things... Cuts cap space, AND relieves us from the possibility that Smith will be suspended for x amount of games.

Goodell is not intentionally waiting to hand out player penalties because of the NFLPA, he is waiting until after the draft so we can not cover vital positions with draft picks.

Shanle is another liability that needs to go.

Sorry, this is a business and if i were managing it I would be looking at key under or less than spectacular preformers on defense to get rid of to lessen the impact of Goodells punishment.

Would you consider doing 3?

"3. Giants are supposedly in need of a RB. Would you trade P. Thomas and his $2.2mm 2012 salary (year 2 of a 4 year deal) for Osi? Saints still would have to pony up $1.75mm for Osi in 2012. Releasing Shanle would do it?"

I wound not do this. PT is the most underrated RB's in the NFL, and our best RB. Trading Shanle would release 2,950,000 cap space, more than PT. Not a bad move, hadn't really thought of this. We are LB heavy at the moment.

I was all for trading PT a couple of years ago but since then he’s proven to be a great asset to this team. I would trade Ivory for Osi but that really wouldn’t do much for us in the cap department.

PT needs to stay. Full Stop

I would not want to lose P. Thomas!!!!!!!

Very true, PT, Ingram, and Sproles are off limits.....Ivory on the other hand (I love him too) would be an option. The guy proved last season that he can stay healthy (well after he got off PUP) and can be a beast. The Giants do the 1-2 punch thing and though Brandon jacobs is a huge guy he's one of the softest (I mean how you that big but REFUSE to run hard up the middle?!?! Dude was always cutting to the outside like he's Sproles but like 10 times slower) Ivory sure aint shy about contact. He can help them and have a bigger role which will be good for him to develop.

If you can give them Ivory & maybe a 5-6th rnd pick I would take that in a heartbeat. We're 4 mil under the cap right now and thats already including Brees' tag money. You can restructure, Ellis & Harper, cut Shanle & Herring and have enough to pay both of these guys cuz with us 4mil under with Brees' cap @ 16mil, he wants 20-23mil a yr. So that means you can give Brees 20mil an dbe right against the cap. You cut Shanle & Herring you can possibly give Brees 1-2mil more to get it closer to 23mil if he won't take the 20mil. You restructure Ellis & Harper to get the space for Osi who's at 3.9mil. Its possible but its up to them to make the move. Shoot if i'm Harper or Ellis if you say to me "we need you guys to restructure so we can get Osi" I'll do it in a heartbeat.

The thing is that this year's 3rd and 4th picks have an elevated value for the Saints because they are the highest picks of 5 overall and they need an injection of new (young) blood into their roster.

I would not give up the 3rd in a trade for him, the 4th maybe, but even then it would be very hard because the Saints would undoubtedly lose his services when the current contract is up.

When OU would be signing with a new team, the prospect that could've been picked by either one of those picks would be potentially entering a new season with the gained experience and understanding of the system.

That is basically the reason why I don't see this trade as an attractive proposal - the money to me is secondary because like has already been stated, they can make him fit under the cap if it becomes necessary.

Any other year with more draft picks it would probably be another story, but those remaining picks are incredibly important for the Saints' organization and the FO needs to "hit" with all of them even though that is unlikely.

And I would definitely not want to see PT be included in the trade, because he is the best RB they have as Sproles is more of a scat back, furthermore, his contract is very very affordable in terms of the financial details, so there's no reason to trade him away. Nor would I like to see Ivory traded, but his value isn't high enough for him to be included in any trade anyway.

I seriously doubt that the Giants would be interested in Smith and his contract, and his value is at the moment very low, so it makes no sense to include him in a trade at this point in time. I think he'll have a much better season this coming season both statistically and directly play-wise, so his value will go up because of it and then if the Saints want to trade him next offseason, they would get much more in return for him.

I would very much like to have OU join the Saints, but I think it would cost too much and the positive effect he would bring would be short term while the negative impact might be long term because of the lost draft pick(s).

Keep the 3rd round pick, Give 'em Smith and Shanle.
That puts Osi on the field most every play...does his numbers suffer?
Osi would be trying to prove a point, looking forward to his next 4 year deal.
That's two bounty players gone, with cap savings to cover Osi.

Leave the RBs alone; remember the Seattle playoff loss?

We ran out of RBs; remember...

They're are better RBs than PT for sure; but he's at his best complimenting the Saints...

Don't get me wrong, I am a Saints fan, I love me some Pierre Thomas and he is THE MAN...but I am not wholly sure that anybody else in the league would want PT in a meaningful trade. He's just not that well known, and not really considered a name brand running back, out there in the world.... I mean we all love him here, and know how good he is in our system, but I think his value is going to be sorely underestimated by other teams if there was ever to be some kind of theoretical trade involving him. I always say that, whenever people talk about hypothetically trading Pierre, or Ivory. Who exactly would want him, or even know who he was, when he averages like 30 yards a game, and barely made 500 yards last year, he wasn't even drafted out of college fer cryin' out loud. It's not like he's a household name outside of NO.

And I don't think anybody would want Will Smith in a trade right now, either, for a different reason... I think he has unknown quantity of games that he is very likely to be suspended for, and nobody knows how bad that will be, and anybody who potentially takes him on their roster would have to deal with that hole in their roster for some chunk of time. Who really wants that kind of a headache? So if I were from another team I wouldn't touch him. If I was another team, I wouldn't really trade for any of these defensive guys, even Shanle. You just don't know.

I still think keeping ivory is overkill in the RB department. I really hope they go after Osi! I know he could come in and make an instant impact.