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Rugby Saint II 05-09-2012 11:09 AM

Don't play the Hall of Fame Game
 
Here's one way to show solidarity. Show up at the Hall of Fame Game dressed but refuse to take the field. I don't know of any law that say we have to play football. Strike for that game. I think that anybody can strike if they don't like the work conditions. That would drive God-hell nuts.:handguns:
EDIT: We could say that we don't think that the game is safe and we're concerned about safety. After the game we can say we rethought the issue and will play again.:cool:

SaintsBro 05-09-2012 12:52 PM

Have to disagree -- I think it'd be even better to just show up and play insane lights out football, buzzer to buzzer, balls-to-the-wall intensity, and don't let up THE ENTIRE TIME. On national TV. Eff the preseason etiquette. No taking a knee. No handing the ball off in the 4th. No phone calls before the game agreeing not to blitz too hard. I seem to remember during the Patriots Spygate year there were quite a few ridiculously over-the-top scores, like 52-7 and 49-14 type blowout whippings. If anything it should be the Cardinals who dress, and then refuse to take the field, citing safety reasons.

Then after the game, which has a ridonkulous lopsided 62-10 type score, coach Vitt and Carmichael stand in front of the cameras and say "Well, we only just executed the kind of game plan that Coach Payton would have wanted us to execute, and we're giving the game ball to our defensive captain Jonathan Vilma, who couldn't be here with us today." I guarantee you that would make STEAM come out of Goodell's ears.

neugey 05-09-2012 01:02 PM

I also disagree, it seems kind of passive-aggressive. Tough though it may be, our team should show class, put the thing behind them and be the bigger person. No need to stoop to Goodell's level.

Rugby Saint II 05-09-2012 01:26 PM

Aw......come on now. What if we only fielded the offense and leave the defense on the side lines? We could still outplay them and prove we don't need a bounty.:wink:

skymike 05-09-2012 07:30 PM

shoot yeah... and blitz their azz, like theyre the Falcons in Game 10.

pherein 05-09-2012 07:54 PM

Id love to see us put practice squad in, and hike the ball and do nothing. Hike and sit on it. Defense also do nothing. Hike and walk. Let them score. Shows class and sends a message.

Danno 05-09-2012 09:11 PM

Wanna get people on our side? Play the game as usual.

Wanna make an ass out of ourselves and have people turn on us? Do the above.

Stay classy. The attending fans deserve more than us showing our ass because we're p[issed at Goodell.

The rookies trying to make the team don't need this statement crap either.

The coaches trying to prepare for a season without their coach don't need this crap either.

I'd be extremely disappointed if we did some childish crap like this.

Its obvious to most fans of the game who the ******* here is, lets not confuse the issue.

Ashley 05-09-2012 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 404603)
Wanna get people on our side? Play the game as usual.

Wanna make an ass out of ourselves and have people turn on us? Do the above.

Stay classy. The attending fans deserve more than us showing our ass because we're p[issed at Goodell.

The rookies trying to make the team don't need this statement crap either.

The coaches trying to prepare for a season without their coach don't need this crap either.

I'd be extremely disappointed if we did some childish crap like this.

Its obvious to most fans of the game who the ******* here is, lets not confuse the issue.

I have to agree, I don't see the point in trying anything to rub anyone wrong with the crap that we are going through.
So lets go beat the hell out of everyone this year. Starting right in Ohio

|Mitch| 05-09-2012 11:32 PM

Forget not playing or striking or whatever; I want to see the Saints drop 40+ on everyone starting with game #1... Let them complain about bounties then, lol

TheOak 05-10-2012 06:51 AM

Do we really want to give the fans of the rest of the league more reason to bad mouth us??

JoanieNTX 05-10-2012 07:25 AM

The fans on the other teams are gonna bad mouth us anyway....just sayin!

TheOak 05-10-2012 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JoanieNTX (Post 404665)
The fans on the other teams are gonna bad mouth us anyway....just sayin!

No need to make the lies truth.

neugey 05-10-2012 08:10 AM

Revenge is dish best served cold ... and with a 40-burger.

QBREES9 05-10-2012 11:48 AM

Let them play !

Rugby Saint II 05-10-2012 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 404603)
Wanna get people on our side? Play the game as usual.

Wanna make an ass out of ourselves and have people turn on us? Do the above.

Stay classy. The attending fans deserve more than us showing our ass because we're p[issed at Goodell.

The rookies trying to make the team don't need this statement crap either.

The coaches trying to prepare for a season without their coach don't need this crap either.

I'd be extremely disappointed if we did some childish crap like this.

Its obvious to most fans of the game who the ******* here is, lets not confuse the issue.

You just had to go there didn't you Danno?:p

FinSaint 05-10-2012 02:35 PM

Definitely play the game, because they need all the extra evaluation material they can get on some of these players and the schemes used, and more than that, I wanna watch that game for once.

SapperSaint 05-10-2012 03:01 PM

On one hand; I would like for the Saints to come out of the tunnel butt naked and go to mid field with a sign that says, "HEY Mr. Goodell...." and all the Saints flipping him off. (But I hold grudges)

On the other hand; I want them to whip the dog mess out of everybody we play this year. Like SaintBro said, I want stupid crazy scores like, 88-3, 70-0, 64-7. No easing up off the gas pedal. Make teams KNOW how good we are! I want Sports Center to get tired of talking about us! I want the 72 Dolphins to bring our players champaigne and for "Mercury" Morris to be the person who delivers it!

That would be my pregame speech, I guess.

Danno 05-10-2012 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 404759)
You just had to go there didn't you Danno?:p

I just can't help it Dale. I'm a born contrarian.:p
I swim upstream.

frankeefrank 05-10-2012 11:21 PM

I agree Rugby. throughout the history of injustice in America... the only way change was enacted was when extreme measures were taken. From the Revolutionary War to the Civil rights movement. But, that was a long time ago... America is full of wussies now. We buy cell phones and Ipads and pills that will help us lose weight. But I get it... we want to make life easier. Blend in. Status Quo. Eventually we will all go with the flow, and believe in what ESPN spits at us things will be back to normal again. Yet, In five, ten fifteen years everyone will still call the Saints cheaters (like we still do the Pats) and though we will hopefully have another Super Bowl title... we will have done nothing about it. Citing... class

Soap Box over.

TheOak 05-11-2012 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by frankeefrank (Post 404876)
I agree Rugby. throughout the history of injustice in America... the only way change was enacted was when extreme measures were taken. From the Revolutionary War to the Civil rights movement. But, that was a long time ago... America is full of wussies now. We buy cell phones and Ipads and pills that will help us lose weight. But I get it... we want to make life easier. Blend in. Status Quo. Eventually we will all go with the flow, and believe in what ESPN spits at us things will be back to normal again. Yet, In five, ten fifteen years everyone will still call the Saints cheaters (like we still do the Pats) and though we will hopefully have another Super Bowl title... we will have done nothing about it. Citing... class

Soap Box over.


History is not the battle. Perception is.

pherein 05-11-2012 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 404603)
Wanna get people on our side? Play the game as usual.

Wanna make an ass out of ourselves and have people turn on us? Do the above.

Stay classy. The attending fans deserve more than us showing our ass because we're p[issed at Goodell.

The rookies trying to make the team don't need this statement crap either.

The coaches trying to prepare for a season without their coach don't need this crap either.

I'd be extremely disappointed if we did some childish crap like this.

Its obvious to most fans of the game who the ******* here is, lets not confuse the issue.

Nothing said here will ever happen, but the saddest thing is to be kind of cowardly and do nothing . So we can look good to the rest of the NFL. Id be really disappointed if we just tow the line to show our respectability.

Our respect is gone, there is none, hope you understand that. This team is scum in the eyes of 27 teams and their fans, that haven't admitted something. I would be more than happy to show you what they think of us.

You will be living with 20 years of bountygate unless someone does something. Like the Pats. Our team will always be cheats , liars, and it won't matter later. Personally I always thought the definition of childish was someones ability NOT to grow up, and see the world for what is was.
If you want to live like a mole thats fine, just don't ask us to. Burring your head in the sand solves nothing. Ask the Patriots how well that worked out for them. If we have a legitimate reason to fight we should, by any means at our disposal.

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The saints got extremely lucky. The fact that the saints organization even still exists is a surprise. What if a saints player killed someone? If anyone can find just one gruesome hit by a saints player in the past few years the NFL might lose everything, because saints players got incredibly idiotic.

One hit is all it will take for a jury to award ex NFL players insane amounts of money in any of the lawsuits.

And you are trying to say that every team has something like this is somehow an excuse. It isn't. The saints were just dumb enough to get caught.

There is no way Sean Payton should not be banned from the NFL for life, along with Gregg Williams, the GM, and the saints entire front office. You can't say they all didn't know.

You also can't possibly believe Drew Brees and offensive players didn't know. I am sure they had an inkling.

The other thing I think Goodell should have very publicly done is announced that if anything even remotely negative to the NFL happens in the Saints organization that the NFL will force Benson to sell.

If any of this research of head concussions comes out like everyone will think it will, the NFL will be in for a world of financial pain. The bounty scandal just increases the amount of money lawyers will steal from the NFL. And one really horrid looking hit with a few bad looking hits or penalties and the NFL could be forced to pay out billions per year.


What do you think the NFLPA would do if the NFL had to bring the cap number down to $50 million again because it simply didn't have the money?
This sound rational? well get used to it. Its what I deal with every day, and what you will deal with shortly.

Saint_LB 05-11-2012 05:57 AM

I tell you what I would love to see. I would love to see someone pop the crap out of one of our opponents, and then have someone like RH walk over to him in front of everybody and pull a Benjamin out of his pants and hand it to the guy. Now that would be funny.

SloMotion 05-11-2012 07:01 AM

IDK, I think I'd like to see you guys play the game, and in those infamous words of Martez Wilson that I so often see in FinSaint's signature tag, "don't be thinking at all, just go out there and play your balls out" ... of course, if the coaching staff thinks it's best to treat it as an additional pre-season game in order to evaluate talent & prepare for the regular season, I'm Ok with that also. :mrgreen:

Danno 05-11-2012 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by pherein (Post 404891)
Nothing said here will ever happen, but the saddest thing is to be kind of cowardly and do nothing .

No one said we should do nothing.

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So we can look good to the rest of the NFL. Id be really disappointed if we just tow the line to show our respectability.
No one said we should do this.

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Our respect is gone, there is none, hope you understand that. This team is scum in the eyes of 27 teams and their fans, that haven't admitted something. I would be more than happy to show you what they think of us.
I've talked to several fans that think we were screwed over. I'm hearing more and more calls to sports shows from fans, commentators, experts and players both former and current who think we got screwed.


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Personally I always thought the definition of childish was someones ability NOT to grow up, and see the world for what is was.
The definition of childish is an adult acting like a child, which perfectly describes the actions you're supporting.

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If you want to live like a mole thats fine, just don't ask us to.
If you wanna live like a spoiled childish brat thats fine, just don't ask me to.

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Burring your head in the sand solves nothing.
Agreed, thats why I don't bury my head in the sand.

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This sound rational? well get used to it. Its what I deal with every day, and what you will deal with shortly.
WTF does that mean?

RaginCajun83 05-11-2012 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 404658)
Do we really want to give the fans of the rest of the league more reason to bad mouth us??

I agree on playing the game just as is to not start anymore trouble but in reality, who gives a rat's arse what the fans of the rest of the league think about us or the Saints

Danno 05-11-2012 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 404920)
I agree on playing the game just as is to not start anymore trouble but in reality, who gives a rat's arse what the fans of the rest of the league think about us or the Saints

I do. Increased fan interest increases the likelyhood of more and more prime time games.

TheOak 05-11-2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 404920)
I agree on playing the game just as is to not start anymore trouble but in reality, who gives a rat's arse what the fans of the rest of the league think about us or the Saints

We should give a rats ass.... Remember, the NFL is driven by $ and popularity. That is how favor is gained. New Orleans lost a % of fan base over all this crap this year, and while we as fans do not need the ones who walked, the SAINTS do need them.

The larger the fan base, the larger the revenue generation, the bigger impact to the NFL's bottom line.

That's the ugly, unpopular truth. Deny it, ignore it, what ever.... It will not change that.... I am going to see if i can find something on the web that ranks teams in order of revenue generation.

TheOak 05-11-2012 10:57 AM

Found it as of 2011: Now in your head think about all the teams that get air time either radio, news, commentary etc when you go through this list.
The Business Of Football, 2011

RaginCajun83 05-11-2012 11:03 AM

We'll just agree to disagree but if anything this offseason has driven that spike of either your with us or against us a lot deeper in me ....

For some strange reason the Saints tend to play better when they are underdogs and none of the media puppets talk about them, I just can't wait for the season to start

TheOak 05-11-2012 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 404941)
We'll just agree to disagree but if anything this offseason has driven that spike of either your with us or against us a lot deeper in me ....

For some strange reason the Saints tend to play better when they are underdogs and none of the media puppets talk about them, I just can't wait for the season to start

Well LOl I sort of can.... The amount of sheer frustration we will have to endure with scrub refs making bad calls if there is a strike may be unbearable.
:)


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