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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Hell, yes, Jonathan Vilma should sue Roger Goodell. Someone has to stand against the NFL's well-intentioned, but wildly out-of-control, dictator. The elite NFL media, seduced by access and/or high-paying jobs on the television networks partnered with the national pastime, won't ...

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Old 05-18-2012, 10:29 AM   #1
 
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Vilma right to take on dictator Roger

Hell, yes, Jonathan Vilma should sue Roger Goodell.

Someone has to stand against the NFL's well-intentioned, but wildly out-of-control, dictator. The elite NFL media, seduced by access and/or high-paying jobs on the television networks partnered with the national pastime, won't dare chop down Goodell to appropriate size, power and influence. And the NFL Players Association seemingly lacks the courage and resolve to regularly tussle with a commissioner corrupted by absolute power.


NFL BOUNTY SCANDAL
Players suspended for roles in scandal
Czar: Vilma can turn to courts
NFL denies Saints' appeal
Vikings duo rips Williams
Director defends release of audio
Whitner: Saints 'tried to knock QB out'
Report: Tape captured bounty offer
Payton meets with Parcells
So, yeah, in an effort to get justice, Jonathan Vilma has no choice but to drag Goodell into a courtroom. On paper, Vilma is suing for defamation. In reality, Vilma is suing to overturn a grossly excessive yearlong suspension for his limited and largely unproven role in the Saints bounty scandal.

Sean Payton, Gregg Williams, Mickey Loomis and Joe Vitt — the New Orleans power structure that orchestrated, cultivated and embraced the bounty culture — confessed to and apologized for their email-documented and/or player-corroborated roles in the forbidden activity. Vilma has offered no confession or apology, and Goodell has yet to counter with hard and public evidence. Even if he has it, the yearlong suspension of Vilma is unfair, devoid of common sense and sets a dangerous precedent.

Vilma — a 30-year-old player — is being punished far more harshly than Goodell's peers: Payton, Loomis and Vitt. A player has a short earning window. Vilma has played eight seasons. Knee injuries limited him last year. His career is winding down. He took a significant pay cut this offseason. The Saints signed several free-agent linebackers. Vilma's suspension could be career-ending.

Payton, who also received a year-long suspension, can be an NFL head coach for the next 15 years. Vitt (six-game suspension) can be a high-paid assistant for the next 15 years. Loomis (four-game suspension) can hold a high-paying front-office job for the next 15 years. Goodell's peers — with the exception of Williams (suspended indefinitely) — can easily recoup their losses.

The architects and the primary benefactors of the bounty scheme, the men who permanently enhanced their coaching resumes with a Super Bowl title, received lighter punishments than the defensive captain who has been trained since childhood to follow the lead of his coaches.


MATTER OF SAFETY
Ochocinco supports Goodell
Daryl Johnston talks concussions
Emmitt Smith concerned over future health
Forgrave: Carter violates unwritten code
Roddy White OK with NFL risks
Study: NFL players live longer
Report: Romanowski refutes Carter
Hell, yes, Jonathan Vilma should sue. Will Smith, Scott Fujita and Anthony Hargrove — the other suspended players — should join Vilma's lawsuit.

Football is militaristic. Adherence to chain of command is strictly enforced. Groupthink and submission to the will and values of the coaching staff are rewarded.

Vilma reflected his leaders. Does Goodell understand the culture he polices? I don't think he does. I think Goodell lives inside the cocoon of delusion we in the media and public have created for him. It's a cocoon that says professional athletes are stupid, irresponsible, lawless, spoiled, unworthy of their lofty salaries, undeserving of common respect and in desperate need of a law-and-order commissioner willing to discipline them.

Kernels of truth do not form the foundation for a sophisticated, mature and fair leadership strategy of a position as powerful as NFL commissioner. Kernels of truth often mislead. Vilma was a three-time Academic All-Big East player at Miami. Of Haitian descent, he started a charitable foundation in support of Haiti after the 2010 earthquake. Vilma shouldn't be defined by his role in the Saints scandal.

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A great read From Jason Whitlock
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Old 05-18-2012, 10:34 AM   #2
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Butt kisser, Ochocinco supports Goodell
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:03 AM   #3
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I'd like to see Fujita file a similiar suit-
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:13 AM   #4
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:19 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth View Post
Hell, yes, Jonathan Vilma should sue Roger Goodell.

MATTER OF SAFETY

A great read From Jason Whitlock
ok this is the heart of the issue and in the big picture it effects the law suites the nfl still has to face.

here is a question i would love to see answered.

If player safety is such a great concern then why has the NFL not addressed the issue of the Oakland Raiders year in and year out lead the NFL in personal fouls?
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:24 AM   #6
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If this was about player safety (and it's not), consider there are any number of things the league could do and should do and could have done and should have done - even over, say, the last 5 years, but has NOT done.

You want to put a stop to big hits? Stop fining players a token amount of their salaries. Fine the teams. Fine the teams BIG, and give them 'out' clauses in contracts with players so teams can effectively cut overly-aggressive players without suffering salary cap implications. In other words, make it difficult for repeat offenders to find work. Now THAT'S putting teeth into the 'problem'...if, of course, that's what you really want...

But that's not what the NFL really wants, and we all know that. It markets violence. It's part of the game. Simple simple. Like the boogaloo...simple.

C'mon Man...
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Old 05-18-2012, 12:30 PM   #7
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If this was about player safety (and it's not), consider there are any number of things the league could do and should do and could have done and should have done - even over, say, the last 5 years, but has NOT done.

You want to put a stop to big hits? Stop fining players a token amount of their salaries. Fine the teams. Fine the teams BIG, and give them 'out' clauses in contracts with players so teams can effectively cut overly-aggressive players without suffering salary cap implications. In other words, make it difficult for repeat offenders to find work. Now THAT'S putting teeth into the 'problem'...if, of course, that's what you really want...

But that's not what the NFL really wants, and we all know that. It markets violence. It's part of the game. Simple simple. Like the boogaloo...simple.
On that sentiment, something I posted over at The Revolution:

* It took literally an hour after the game was over for someone to mention the overtime rules after the Saints won the NFCCG. The rule change was then quickly adopted in March that no team can win OT on the first possession with a FG (great for player safety, extending the game more, no?)

* During the Saints Whiners game last season, Pierre Thomas suffered a concussion and was literally unconscious before he hit the ground after being speared helmet to helmet by a whiner defender, a legal play. Where is the outrage to change the helmet to helmet contact rule on RBs?
Player safety concerns my butt.

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Old 05-19-2012, 09:48 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper View Post
On that sentiment, something I posted over at The Revolution:

* During the Saints Whiners game last season, Pierre Thomas suffered a concussion and was literally unconscious before he hit the ground after being speared helmet to helmet by a whiner defender, a legal play. Where is the outrage to change the helmet to helmet contact rule on RBs?
Player safety concerns my butt.
Exactly.

So Roger, a team ran a bounty program for three years in an obvious attempt to injure players, and you let it go until 2012. What about the OBVIOUS risk to every offensive player that this criminal team faced over that time? What, nothing?

Too busy 'gathering evidence' instead of preventing injuries. Or maybe, just maybe, there was nothing there.
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:43 AM   #9
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granted, I am unabashed Vilma fan but I think this is great
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Old 05-18-2012, 12:02 PM   #10
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WOW! good for you Vilma. This is either going to be really awesome or really $h!tty
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