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Documentary filmmaker Sean Pamphilon says he sat in a New Orleans Saints defensive meeting in January as former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams announced $200 cash awards for so-called "whack" hits.

Yet for all the tough talk he heard from Williams about brutalizing San Francisco 49ers targets, Pamphilon isn't convinced the Saints operated the pay-to-injure bounty system that led to the suspension of four players.

"This whole thing has been a joke," he told USA TODAY Sports. "I don't think the players should be punished, unless they can actually prove it."

Filmmaker says bounty audiotape proves nothing against Saints players

"A Veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America" for an amount of "up to and including my life."